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Should I look into this medically or is it my fault?

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Flabrador · 20/09/2021 10:22

Sorry this is going to be long

My 11 year old DD is driving me up the wall and I’m not sure if she needs to be assessed or if I’ve failed somewhere in parenting her.

She will say ‘what?’ While you’re still in the middle of your sentence. Everything has to be repeated, constantly, it’s exhausting. She also seems to not understand basically anything that is said to her, she still struggles with a knife and fork, will eat everything, even tiny things like biscuits, like a hamster with both hands, still makes such a mess eating, like a toddler. When I ask her to hang her clothes up in her wardrobe she’ll hang her tops on the trouser hangers and her trousers on the normal hangers and it’s all messed up even though I’ve shown her how to do it hundreds of times. Or she’ll just stuff it in the bottom of her wardrobe like she can’t be bothered (although she has stopped that now after I explained in detail how that is disrespectful and hurts my feelings as I’ve spent time ironing it etc). I’ve shown her how to angle the shower and where to stand so water doesn’t pour out all over the floor and yet still, every time, the bathroom is a shit-hole when she’s used it. She often gets shampoo and conditioner mixed up so sometimes I have to send her back in to wash her hair properly. It’s like nothing goes in!

She can’t follow a conversation either. She’ll go ‘what? What does xyz mean?’ even though it makes absolutely no sense, xyz will be a completely non-existent word that doesn’t even sound like what’s been said. It’s like she can’t extract information from context.

She can also be quite rude but doesn’t realise and is apologetic when told she’s been impolite.

If she’s asked about anything she’ll over-explain to the point of going off on tangents and missing the point entirely. If asked a direct question she’ll answer a different one. For example, she has food tech today at school so her dad bought her the ingredients over the weekend. I asked her if she needed all of it or specific measurements, and she was confused and said ‘of course I need all of it, why would I not need all of it?’ In a tone that, if said by an adult, would be very condescending. To me it sounded like she thought I’d asked if she needed every item on the list, rather than specific amounts of each item. I’m just so over having to explain myself ALL THE TIME and being spoken to like I’m the idiot. Her comprehension is non existent in conversation but is ok reading at school.

She’s wonderful in lots of ways, she’s a great friend and very funny, loves animals and is a talented artist, but these few things are really taking over the time we spend together and it’s ruining any enjoyment in conversations we have.

I wondered if she’s autistic but she doesn’t struggle with eye contact or personal space, has average grades at school across the board but finds maths hard. She doesn’t have any repetitive body movements or special interests, isn’t bothered by things like labels in clothes. Doesn’t speak in a monotone voice or accent or anything else on the list.

I thought about ADHD but her grades are fine, she has a few interests, likes to try new things but doesn’t go through hobbies like there’s no tomorrow. She’s a little untidy in her room but not a concerning amount.

I wondered about getting her ears checked but she seems to have no issues with things like watching telly and no mention of it in her school reports.

I’m baffled. I haven’t been to the doctors with her yet because I don’t want her to feel like we think she’s a moron and I’ve been keeping tabs on her failings. So I was looking for things I can do first but I feel like I’ve exhausted the internet. If she was 5 it would be a bit easier to talk about her as if she’s not there to a doctor, you know?

What am I missing? I just want to help her Sad

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ManifestDestinee · 20/09/2021 10:25

The one important question is does she act the same with people who are not her parents? If she's able to listen and be polite to teachers or other adults...then it sounds like she's a fairly normal teenager for most of it!

Flabrador · 20/09/2021 10:29

She’s the same with other family members but she gets babied a lot at her Dad’s, and everyone else just laughs and says she’s in her own world

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ZealAndArdour · 20/09/2021 10:38

I think the the good grades and ADHD are a bit of a red herring. I managed to get through school with good grades because I was naturally fairly bright and didn’t need to try at all to get the grades needed to fly under the radar. And when school was the only demand I had on my time I just a bout managed it, I passed everything, but I never excelled to the full extent of my ability and it was always documented by teachers as not trying hard enough or not being prepared to make the effort. Which it wasn’t, I just couldn’t organise myself to do more.

Perhaps have a further read into the inattentive side of ADHD and see if any of that rings any bells.

ZealAndArdour · 20/09/2021 10:39

Also being “in her own world” is a classic ADHD tag line for women and girls.

Flabrador · 20/09/2021 11:02

I’m on the waiting list for ADHD assessment myself so figured I’d be quite vigilant about the symptoms but maybe I’m comparing her to myself at that age instead of individually? Her grades are very middle of the road average and she’s not much of a reader whereas I had a mixture of As and Es no inbetween and would devour books for days at a time. None of her reports mention needing to apply herself or chatting too much. I’m scared she’ll end up like me doing speed at 14 and wondering why it just made me feel normal for once Hmm I’ll revisit inattentive type and see if there’s anything I’ve missed!

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UtterlyUnimaginativeUsername · 20/09/2021 11:06

I also did very well in school with ADHD. I fell apart completely in third level, where we weren't spoon-fed.

ZealAndArdour · 20/09/2021 11:18

OP, your presentation sounds kind of like mine too. Either absolutely outstanding in a subject I loved or scraping by on something that I couldn’t get on with. I also absolutely devoured books and spent my summer holidays going backwards and forwards to the library with my grandads library card to get books out to spend my days reading.

The wheels came off for me in my late teens and twenties, and finally in my mid thirties I sought an assessment as I began to recognise that I wasn’t just lazy or not trying hard enough, as I was failing at things I wanted to achieve so badly, and should easily have been within my capacity.

Even if she gets assessed and doesn’t turn out to have ADHD, the psychiatrist might be able to give an indication of what else could be going on for her.

Flabrador · 20/09/2021 11:23

Even if she gets assessed and doesn’t turn out to have ADHD, the psychiatrist might be able to give an indication of what else could be going on for her.

This is a very good point!

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Cattaxi · 20/09/2021 11:28

I would be thinking about dyspraxia with some of the stuff you’ve talked about. Difficulties with fine motor skills, organising thoughts and memory are all part of the picture.

theseoldbone · 20/09/2021 11:30

It sounds like ADHD. Get her assessed for sure.

You can get good grades and have adhd

SharpLily · 20/09/2021 11:41

Look at dyspraxia. A lot of this sounds very familiar to me, both in terms of myself and my daughter.

Flabrador · 20/09/2021 12:23

Oh my god, dyspraxia is spot on. She can’t catch to save her life, so clumsy and always has at least one piece of clothing inside out or back to front! No sense of direction either, never knows where she is or recognises routes.

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JazzerMcCreary · 20/09/2021 12:40

@UtterlyUnimaginativeUsername

I also did very well in school with ADHD. I fell apart completely in third level, where we weren't spoon-fed.
This.
Flabrador · 20/09/2021 16:15

This is what led to me seeking diagnosis too, I’m on my third attempt at a degree because I just can’t get through the modules that bore me!

I think I’ll show her a list of symptoms for a few things and see if she identifies with any of it. Is that a good idea?

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nimbuscloud · 20/09/2021 16:17

I think dyspraxia too

Didiplanthis · 26/09/2021 19:49

My dd has dyspraxia with slow processing..she is actually VERY bright but conversing with her is painful as she repeats everything back to you like you hadn't said it first... she comes across as having mild learning difficulties when she has an IQ on the 98th centile ! I have ADHD and am a doctor... at school I got good enough grades but not as good as I should have got. My dd also has strong ADHD traits and also ASD traits as part of her neurodiversity.

EducatingArti · 26/09/2021 19:51

This sounds like dyspraxia to me too!

Newuser82 · 26/09/2021 19:51

I thought dyspraxia. Sounds very similar to my son who has it

CoffeeWithCheese · 26/09/2021 20:09

Sounds like DD2 who has a diagnosis of dyspraxia but recently we also found that she's got a massive weakness in language processing of anything higher level (I knew there was some difficulty there but hadn't waded in to try to identify what until we had a formal assessment lined up).

LetTheRiverAnswer · 26/09/2021 20:11

Could be worth looking up Auditory Processing Disorder too?

Bifflepants · 27/09/2021 05:19

Hello. I'm a speech and language therapist with 30 years experience. What you have described sounds like a combination of Developmental Language Disorder, Auditory Processing difficulties and possibly some dyspraxia as well. It is likely to be fairly mild if school haven't expressed any concerns.

PurpleSapphire · 27/09/2021 05:58

Straight away this sounded just like my ds, he is Dyspraxic and it's incredibly frustrating at times. Even now in his early 20's he has to have clear, step by step instructions on how to do something. He has no logic, no initiative, little short term memory. When he tells a story he will add in every minute detail and forget what he's saying. Co-ordination is a huge problem, his writing looks like a ten year old's. He has no awareness of how people respond to him, can't seem to judge if someone is just making smalltalk and so might overcomplicate a conversation. Simple things need confirmation..so say we're in the lounge and there's a draught I might say "ooh it's chilly in here shut the door behind you". He would ask which door...to him it could be any door in the house because I didn't specify a door. It's exhausting at times because he is so bright but we've never been able to get much help for him. To speak to him properly you'd have no idea anything was wrong, he can string a sentence together far better than me!

Porridgealert · 27/09/2021 06:04

Does she inderstand the telly? As in can follow their conversations, understands the vocabulary and knows what the plot's about - maybe even including nuances? If she can, that would be at idds with how she behaves with you. But if she can't, maybe that's indicative of an existing problem.

InvincibleInvisibility · 27/09/2021 06:10

She sounds a bit like my DS who has AdHD and dyspraxia. He was diagnosed by fluke - someone we were seeing for his eyes identified dyspraxia. The assessment for that indicated AdHD. So he was assessed for that.

School has never indicated the slightest problem or difficulty- he was a very average student. Turns out he is highly intelligent (assessed) and was using that to compensate for his difficulties hence getting average grades.

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