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DS, 10 and his behaviour.

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youvegottobekidding · 10/12/2019 21:02

Ds, 10 has always been quite headstrong, although he’s caring and very loving and funny and smart. He and his sister haven’t always been best buddies (she’s 4 yrs older) they have their moments but they’ll have each other’s backs if need be. On the whole, we’re a ‘normal’ family, we have our ups and downs, laughs and tears, tantrums.

DS, over the last couple of months has proved to be a real handful though. He really does shout & get angry, usually at bedtimes and just before school. He speaks to me and his dad like shit sometimes and does get disciplined (like phone taken off him etc) but he still does it. He’ll be sent to his room he’ll be shouting & screaming.

It’s become a constant pattern, nearly every morning, every night we (more me as his dad works nights sometimes) get this huge shouting show or a full meltdown or just a tirade of insults.

He has had a really shit year at school in the previous year, a teacher that should never have been a teacher, who really disliked my son made it a nightmare for him. His teacher now is obviously better. But he also gets ‘picked’ on a bit for a trait he has (can’t say what it is because it’s could be outing - he obviously can’t help it and he gets really upset by it, the school knows about past bullying regarding this but my son says it still happens & he knows now the teachers don’t do anything - so there have been times where my son has had to just stick up for himself, resulting in him getting into trouble, he feels like this is unfair as the bullies get away with it. He has told us something has been happening recently with another boy targeting ds so we’ve informed his teacher & deputy head but ds says nothing’s changed. Ds feels quite angry towards this boy (who lies quite a lot) & frustrated that he just can’t punch him.

He also becomes agitated when it comes to doing his homework, he gets defensive & tonight it took 3 hrs of me telling him to get it done, for him to say, you sit on the floor & do it. I’ve noticed he’s struggling a lot with it. I’ve spoken to him about how he’s finding work in class & he says maths is harder now & teacher always asks him for the answer when he doesn’t know it so he looks stupid in front of everyone. Parents evening his teacher said ds was doing ok, no concerns.

He really hates school & takes forever to get ready in the morning. I know kids generally don’t like school but he used to ‘not mind’ going & had a good group of friends. Now he feels like he doesn’t really have any it appears he’s finding the work hard, he’ll say it’s boring?!

Tonight he really flipped out at me, over the homework he shouted got angry & when I told him it was bedtime he became worse. I usually just tell him in a firm voice that his behaviour is wrong & unacceptable, but tonight i’d had enough & shouted back. No it didn’t really resolve anything because he just shouted louder. I took his phone & other things off him.

I’m just exhausted with it all. He’s like my best buddy, we’re very close, he’ll always want to snuggle up & watch a movie with me. Is it just his age? I don’t want to be arguing with him, but I want him to know there are boundaries & respect goes both ways, he is certainly not respecting us right now.

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Angrymouse · 10/12/2019 21:54

So sorry to hear you and your son are going through this.
I think you should have a word with the school a bit more firmly. Do not let them fob you off.
Maybe a complain in writing?

Also regarding homework, could you set a specific timetable say 30 minutes consistently and say he will stick to it. Maybe a reward at the end atleast to begin with.
It also helps sometimes if we sit next to them maybe pretending to do our work or something boring!
That way you are not doing it for him but showing it is work time.
Also if he really doesn't get it could you help or would you be able to get a tutor for confidence building.

Also something that is said often on MN, have some chill time with him and see if that helps.
I hope things improve for you.

Good luck!

youvegottobekidding · 10/12/2019 22:10

Angrymouse, thanks for your reply. Yes I do agree, we need to sort this out with the school, I don’t think they’re taking our concerns seriously enough, yet when it comes to my son sticking up for himself, oh they are quick enough to jump on the phone to me!

Homework is a nightmare. And your suggestion sounds great, I think we’ll give it a go, a set time. I know homework isn’t fun & what kid really wants to do it, I hate doing it with him, so I do help out with it, but I’m becoming more & more stressed with it because he’s just so unwilling to put any effort in. Then he starts with the shouting, backchatting. I’m guessing he’s doing that because he’s struggling & doesn’t really know what to do, so on that note, I need to talk with his teacher & your other suggestion of a tutor is another good idea, we’ll definitely look into that.

Yeah we do have ‘chill’ times together, dd is usually upstairs in her bedroom, so it’s usually just me & ds downstairs watching a movie if DH is at work. Like I said, we really are like best buddies. And he can be so loving, he always comes and give me the biggest cuddle in the mornings when he wakes up. Except on a school morning, he doesn’t do that now, I have to wake him up & he’s not impressed!

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Angrymouse · 10/12/2019 22:22

Regarding morning wake up issue, tell him he can use an alarm or he wakes up when you call without a fuss.
If he still fusses when you call during wake up time, then say you will refuse to wake him up from now on.
Let him be late to school and explain it to the teachers.

Is he getting enough sleep?
They do resist bed times as they get older but they are tired and do not want to admit it.
I have a 9 year old DS and I completely get what you mean.
I started reading the book "Get out of my life" but couldn't continue beyond the point where it explained why little boys who are so attached to their mums start detaching themselves from them.
It is all a phase but sadly a long phase!!
Hang in there. You are not alone

Mrskeats · 10/12/2019 22:26

'A teacher who should never have been a teacher'
I had sympathy till this
Unless you are in the classroom how can you possibly know that?

Elisheva · 10/12/2019 22:39

I think all the answers are in your post as you seem to really understand your DS .
School is too hard, for whatever reason the work is too hard and friendships are too hard. When he gets home he has to do more homework. It’s all too much for him to cope with.
I think you might need to make a big effort to advocate for him at school. Insist that they sort out the bullying, and work with them to investigate why the work is too hard.
Does he have to do the homework?

GetUpAgain · 10/12/2019 23:17

Is he in SATs year? And is he heading to a currently unknown high school? This can be super stressful for kids especially as it's often their first experience of something stressful. They all went a bit wierd in this situation when my DC were this age.

Definitely talk to school. Also talk to your 14 year old, on an age appropriate level - not to burden them but they might have insights you don't.

Winterdaysarehere · 10/12/2019 23:18

He doesn't need a phone at 10....

youvegottobekidding · 11/12/2019 10:51

I believe he gets enough sleep, bedtime is usually between 8-8.30. Phones aren’t allowed overnight in their bedrooms and he doesn’t actually use it that much, to play the odd game on, he was actually one of the last in his class to get one!

My comment about the teacher who, in my opinion shouldn’t be a teacher, well i work at a school & I see and appreciate how hard teachers work. This particular teacher said something to my ds, that no teacher should ever say to a child and it was backed up by other children in the class who heard & had told their parents, who also confirmed to me what had been said. Yes we had a meeting about it & yes the teacher denied it, my son insisted she said it, but it was brushed under the carpet & because we’re not unreasonable people & didn’t want to make what was already a difficult year for our son maybe more difficult we insisted he was just treated fairly.

He will be doing SATs next year, so moving up to secondary school next September. His sister goes there, she’ll be in her last year as he begins there, which I think gives him some sense of ‘comfort’ for want of a better word!

Hopefully seeing his teacher later today so maybe some get some answers there.

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Elisheva · 11/12/2019 22:18

How did it go with the teacher?

youvegottobekidding · 14/12/2019 13:55

I spoke to her & asked her about his work & if she thought he was struggling with anything & she said she didn’t have any concerns, he’s at where he should be. He’s moved groups in maths just because he works at a slightly slower pace & that group will help him with that & build his confidence up. She said that he seems okay with everything in class & I said to her about the bit of trouble he’s had with another boy in his class & she said she had spoken to them both & hopefully things should have been resolved now.

When DS got home I explained to him about his maths & how he feels about his work & the group he is in & I told him that if at any lying he feels like he is struggling then he must let the teacher know so they can help him. I told him what the teacher had briefly said about him & the other boy & that it made sense but if anything was to happen again then to let someone know. So basically it was reassuring him that his work is good, any problems let the teacher know & of course us. He seemed a bit relieved after that, well, in agreement! So far, there hasn’t been any trouble at school.

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