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My ex never returns my child's clothes to me. What do I do?

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lonerdottierebel · 22/09/2019 13:19

LONG POST ALERT!

My ex partner has custody of our daughter, and I have her 3 days a week. I currently pick her up from school wearing her school uniform, and then have to send her back on a Saturday, so naturally she wears clothes that I have bought her back to my ex's, and I put her school uniform in a bag for them.

The problem is, once those clothes go back, I never see them again. I keep a note of all the clothes that they have, and let them know in a polite message which particular items I need back that week. It used to be an issue, but after a lot of chasing and their usual excuses of 'I don't have them' or 'I swear I gave them back to you', I would eventually receive the clothes back - a pile of up to 20 items of clothing that had built up in their home. And when my daughter wasn't at school, she would come to already wearing regular clothes, so I could use those if needed. Over the last year though, it's got worse, and I'm just never receiving the clothes back at all.

They have custody and this is what I hear all the time - that they have custody so ALL clothes should be for their home. Like I said though, I have our daughter 3 days a week (and even more during holidays), and she needs clothes to wear when she's with me, no? Or is she expected to run around naked? So yes, of course I am more than happy for the clothes to be worn when my daughter is with them, but what they don't seem to understand is that if items of clothing leave my daughter's wardrobe here, and I don't receive them back, then funnily enough, I am left with less clothes, and eventually no clothes, and then have to go out and buy more. I am on a very low income and simply can't afford to buy new clothes every week, even from a charity shop, but to be honest I shouldn't have to anyway. I feel that they probably do understand that logic but just enjoy making things hard for me.

Recently, I've been having to let my daughter wear what she wants during day with me, and then at teatime before she goes back, rummage through her wardrobe and send her back in some old clothes which I haven't paid lots for, because they will undoubtedly disappear into thin air when she gets back to my ex's.

This is the other thing: my ex is madly disorganised, like you would not believe, and it's not like the clothes are being worn by my daughter at their home, they just disappear. My daughter tells me that she doesn't see them again once they go back there. Also, there have been times when I've sent her back in clothes which have then been worn for the rest of the day, and if I'm lucky enough to get them back, they will come back with really deep stains which have just been left for weeks so there is no chance of getting them out, or damaged, so they can't be worn again anyway.

I'm at a point now where I feel I might have to send my daughter back on a Saturday night in her school uniform. I really don't want to as it doesn't seem fair on my daughter, but I'm gradually running out of clothes for her. But then what to do I do during the holidays?

Has anyone else been in a similar situation? How did you deal with it? My ex isn't someone I can talk to, I've tried that before. They don't care about me and enjoy making things difficult and seeing me struggle. We've done mediation, court, the lot, and the issue of clothes has even been brought up, but ultimately the judge hasn't been interested and it's been left to us. Solicitors have sent letters requesting clothes back, etc, but they've been ignored. They're not going to change, and generally with these things it's just a case of working around them and their behaviour as opposed to working with them.

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lakeloveragain · 22/09/2019 13:27

You let her wear the clothes you have at yours for her when with and send her back in her uniform on the Saturday. If in the hols you again send her back in the clothes she came in.

lakeloveragain · 22/09/2019 13:27

When with you*

cakeandchampagne · 22/09/2019 13:28

Send her back wearing only the clothes she came in. She can wear the clothing you have purchased only while she is with you.

I have seen this many times- it is ridiculous.

lonerdottierebel · 22/09/2019 14:10

@lakeloveragain @cakeandchampagne Yeah, I've been doing that in the holidays. I just feel bad that she has to wear her school uniform on a Saturday night, because kids love to wear their own clothes at the weekends. It does seem to be the only thing I can do now though.

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cakeandchampagne · 22/09/2019 18:59

There isn’t anything for you to feel bad about. Flowers
He has created a problem (and I would guess it is not the first one), and you are dealing with it.

Notopel · 22/09/2019 19:05

Can you change the days so that you return her to school rather than to her other parent? I.e you have her every Wednesday, and Thursday picking her up from school Wednesday and dropping her to school on Friday morning and then alternate the weekends so you’d drop her to school on a Monday morning. This would avoid clothes travelling between the two houses

lonerdottierebel · 22/09/2019 19:34

@Notopel This was pretty much what I tried to get at court, but they decided on the above contact instead. Otherwise, as you say, that would eliminate the problem with clothes.

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spey2 · 22/09/2019 19:45

I have this problem.

The only way around is that when I collect my child from school I take her around to t
Her dads house and send her in with the list of clothes that she needs (I tell her dirty or clean I don't care) she seems to appear with them quite quickly when they know I'm waiting.

The other option is pjs. So I buy a load of cheap pjs or cheap leggings and tops and always change her into them when she's going back so if they don't reappear it's not as big of a problem. And then once i start to run out of pjs or the cheap stuff I drive her round there and wait for her to collect it all up and wash them once we're home.

It's difficult. I also send her a text the night before we swap over and remind her what clothes to put in her bag to bring back.

ShippingNews · 22/09/2019 19:52

Send her back in her uniform, and tell her why this has to be. If she's old enough to be in school, I'm sure she is old enough to understand this problem. No doubt she is aware of how her other parent can "make clothes disappear" , ie they probably just get thrown into a pile somewhere and never see the light of day again. If you stick to the "uniform only" rule, you can keep some nice things at your place for her to wear when she's with you. Good luck |!

LionKingLover · 22/09/2019 20:01

I have this problem. It is so so frustrating and the dcs come back in way too small, stained things and we never see our decent stuff again. We wash and return their clothes every week, but never see ours again and constantly have to buy, then we get comments about making sure they get there stuff back, which is unbelievable when I wash and give there's back weekly, and we never get ours back! It's hard work I feel for you op x

lonerdottierebel · 22/09/2019 20:04

@spey2 I do the text the night before. I've tried asking for them on the doorstep at pick up and drop off. There's always one excuse or another. Generally they have no idea where they have gone. The problem is, the clothes get worn to back to theirs, back to their mum's place, back to their partner's mum's place, etc, and then they have no idea where they left them.

These days I usually have to drop my daughter off to her mum's workplace so if she doesn't have them with her, and if she didn't already pack them in my daughter's school bag when she came to me, then that's it. I have no way of retrieving them :/

This weekend they sent their mum to the door of her workplace to collect my daughter. They often do this - send someone else to the door to avoid me asking for the clothes back because they've run out of excuses.

I'm half thinking about letting the list of missing clothes build up and recording all the dates that they went missing and then making a rough estimate of how much money has been lost on them. Maybe if it's a substantial enough list, if we end up in court again one day (it's only a matter of time), maybe the judge will take notice? Like if it's a list of 30+ items? What do people think? It's a financial sacrifice initially but wondering if it might pay off in the long run.

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Windydaysuponus · 22/09/2019 20:09

My exh used to sell the stuff my dc went back in...
Redress her in the stuff you got her in.
My dc went back in wedding outfits and they disappeared. Judge didn't care and they cost £££..
Unfortunately you won't 'win' in this op. Neither will dc until they realise what a tool df is....
Playing his game really is the only way ime.

OrangeBlindFire · 22/09/2019 20:55

Agree to send her in her uniform. A bit of a pain but it's better than losing clothes every week.
Also sorry it's probably just me but calling your ex by 'they/their' has made your posts really difficult for me to read, had to re read a few times.
Hope you get the clothes situation sorted though, it's annoying enough the rate kids go through clothes without the other parent losing them all.

littleduckeggblue · 22/09/2019 21:16

Send get back to her in her uniform

Lara53 · 26/09/2019 20:07

We do this with DN as he arrives in dirty stained too small clothes - we take them off, put on nice stuff we keep at ours and then he goes back in what he wore when her arrived

eastmidsmum · 15/10/2019 22:23

Know exactly that problem OP. How old is yr daughter? Once mine got to about 11 she manages her own clothes and things got a lot better. NOT so with my DS however, clothes don’t exactly feature on his horizon!

mankyfourthtoe · 15/10/2019 22:28

Have clothes that she wears on Saturday, but she changes into the uniform before she leaves.
Try getting her to help claim clothes if you can.

WaxOnFeckOff · 16/10/2019 16:00

Unfortunately I agree with everyone else and it stinks, but you have to send her back in her uniform. A friend used to pick his DD from her mum's in the worst clothes imaginable (he was paying full maintenance), she was in such a state that that they didn't really want to take her out in them so would buy her new things, including trainers or shoes and then wouldn't see the items again, next time they got access she would be in the old worn out stuff again. he knew for a fact that the ex wasn't struggling and that's not how the DD was generally dressed. In the end he just changed her back into the scruff before returning her. Funnily enough shortly afterwards he got threatened by the ex's family and he really struggled to get any contact after that. The DD was the result of a 1 night stand. he has faithfully paid for his mistake for 18 years. (obviously so has the ex.)

I'm guessing your DD is still quite young OP, once she gets a bit older she will be more able to manage this but it must be incredibly frustrating.

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