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what the hell is the phonics for 'x'?

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xfabba · 13/05/2009 11:22

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MrsJamesMartin · 13/05/2009 11:26

Jolly phonics website says "
x Pretend to take an x-ray of someone with an x-ray gun and say ks, ks, ks. "

Don't think DD ever did X though as a phonic.

DwayneDibbley · 13/05/2009 15:30

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HeinzSight · 13/05/2009 15:35

imagine a caveman saying ux (very quickly), like ug ug!

also agree with the kiss without the i

xfabba · 13/05/2009 16:10

thanks!

what word with x in sound like that though?

weird

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james79 · 13/05/2009 16:36

x as in fox and box

xfabba · 13/05/2009 21:12

oh yeah that makes sense thanks

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maverick · 14/05/2009 10:19

Unusually, the X sound is created by blending 2 sounds: /k/s/ as in 'fix' or /g/s/ as in 'exist'
Have a look at the Alphabet Code overview chart here: www.aowm73.dsl.pipex.com/dyslexics/main_method_3.htm

Overmydeadbody · 14/05/2009 10:24

Heinz that is the wrong way to do phonics, but a mistake many parents make, putting a vowel sound in with the other sound. It's not uks, it's just ks
Think about it: If a child tries to write fox, using phnics that have been tought incorrectly, he could up writing faoux.

HeinzSight · 14/05/2009 13:18

Overmydeadbody, I agree with you, I was trying to expand on earlier posts, that's why I suggested saying it very quickly, I should have been more clear in not pronouncing the u sound. I also agreed with the kiss without the i.

katiestar · 14/05/2009 14:18

we had a parent evening about how literacy is taught in schools and they said there were 42 sounds in the English language which they cover with jolly phonics So I wonder why x in there when it is a blend of 'K' & 'S' ,also I wonder about 'j for jelly' i would have thought this was d+ j.

mrz · 16/05/2009 11:06

Sorry katie but you (well no one I know ) pronounces jelly djelly or jump djump ...the /j/ sound can be represented by /g/ as in giant /ge/ as in luggage and /dge/ as in judge .../x/ is in there because it is one grapheme/phoneme representation of the sound 'ks' the sound can also be written 'ks' 'cks' and 'kes' Jolly Phonics introduces the 42 sounds using the most common ways of representing them in writing ~ there are something like 150 ways of representing the 42 sounds which children learn later.

Carmody · 31/05/2009 22:53

Please forgive me if I bring this somewhat academic discussion down to a commercial level, but I'm very interested in what you think of the LeapFrog Letter Factory dvd (a US product) as an introduction to phonics for a British child.

My daughter first started watching this as she turned 3 and, aside from its pronunciation of the letter z, she appears to have picked up single letter phonics brilliantly from it (including the sound made by a 'z').

Was this a poor choice of phonics introduction? Have I caused problems in her future literacy learning?

mrz · 05/06/2009 21:32

Personally I have a problem with many US products as I end up with a class full of children talking with American accents but it isn't going to scar your child for life.

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