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Overview of how Preschool committees work - can anyone enlighten me?!

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Laquila · 04/01/2018 22:53

Can anyone shed some light for me? Why are preschools run by committees of members (seemingly usually parents), rather than by the staff, as a private nursery would be?

I appreciate that preschools charge significantly less than private nurseries and don’t always offer the same kind of care (e.g. lower staff to child ratios), but I guess what I’m asking is why does this model exist and where did it come from? Most of the preschools around here don’t seem to be able to run sustainably - they’re forever asking for funds, time and goodwill from parents (most of whom I suspect would pay higher fees if it meant they didn’t have to do so much fundraising/donating prizes/attending Tupperware parties and the like). I understand that a lot of their kids are probably receiving government funding, so has it got worse since the 30hrs has come into play?

Are committee members always effectively responsible for staff wages if a preschool gets into difficulties? I think one locally to us that works on that basis but is that common?

(I guess the Local Authority equivalent is nursery class within a school, even if that’s only for 3-4 yr olds).

Sorry, this is a bit rambly - im thinking aloud/blathering a bit here!

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HSMMaCM · 05/01/2018 17:48

Not an expert, but I suspect it's because most Pre schools are charities, rather than private businesses, so they need an independent committee.

Care and ratios are often the same as nurseries.

Pre schools take mostly (under) funded children, so any extra money they can raise will improve resources and staff. I'm sure if they knew all parents were happy to make a monthly voluntary contribution, they might not be doing as many fundraisers. Maybe you could suggest this to the committee and it might, or might not work out to be sustainable. I suggested a monthly contribution to our primary school and 3 parents took them up on it :(

SandyDenny · 05/01/2018 18:02

Ime playgroups and pre-schools run on a very tight budget and can only manage to run if a volunteer committee takes on a lot of the admin that a profit making business would pay employ someone to do. As HSM says they are legally set up as charities and that partly governs how they are run.

The committee members have no financial responsiblity but shouldn't allow the group to ever get to the position where staff wages haven't been paid. Many years ago when I was on a committee I'm pretty sure that you couldn't have an overdraft and the treasurer had the most to do to make sure that there were never any problems with running out of money.

Your experience is very different to mine in that parents couldn't all afford to pay more and so fund raising was a big thing.

It's too big a subject to explain in a few paragraphs but starting from the basis that a playgroup is similar to a private nursery isn't valid, they are similar but very different beasts

lostherenow · 27/02/2018 17:54

Most preschools are charities, operating in the interests of the children that go there. They are non profit making. They are cheaper because they are run by volunteer committees, and they raise money in the community.

Nurseries are usually businesses, run to make a profit by providing childcare. So they have different aims and methods.

Several of the preschools near here have closed recently, however some are over subscribed, very popular and well funded. The big risk for many preschools is not the financial but that parents dont understand how the system works and dont want to help at all, just benefit from the lower costs. The two go hand in hand. If you just want to pay more and dont want to be hassled by fundraising and events etc just go with a private nursery. (Although in my experience they will hassle you about fundraising too, they just do it differently.) If they dont have enough parents interested and willing to volunteer then the preschool will close. And for the major roles - particularly Chair and Treasurer, its actually a big time commitment and a lot of responsibility. Having had a very bad experience in both a preschool and more recently a private nursery, I wont be putting my son into a private nursery again as I don't think its a good model of care. I would and did do a lot more research into the preschool I chose this time round and I'm happy with it so far.

insancerre · 01/03/2018 14:09

Preschools are run as charities
They started out being run as playgroups in church halls by volunteers as a service to the community
Legislation has meant that they are now regulated and have to follow the EYFS and be inspected by ofsted and follow other laws such as safeguarding and minimum wage etc

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