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Private vs State

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fifi25 · 11/05/2011 19:01

My daughter is due to start nursey in September and was offered a place at 2 pre-schools. I declined my place at the state nursery in favour of the private nursery which is offering 2.5 days with lunch instead of 5 half day sessions. The headmaster at the state nursery was furious and have rang the private nursery saying they are poaching children and if an offer is made at a state nursery i should be taking it. I know this is a load of rubbish as my other 2 daughters went to a pre-school which was not a state one.

I am just having a rant really. If the state nursery had of provided 2.5 days i would have probably gone with them. I dont drive and 2.5hrs are much better for my family.

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MrsMoppet · 11/05/2011 19:06

Hi,
What is the difference between a state nursery and a private nursery? Do you mean the free pre-schools that kids can go to after they turn 3? Or do they take younger children?

catsareevil · 11/05/2011 19:22

Its the same in terms of what you get free, but at a state nursery the opening hours tend to be shorter, and they keep to school holidays (because they are usually part of a primary school). That is also why there will be a head teacher.

Its ridiculous for the teacher from the state nursery to insist that you should use it.

mrz · 11/05/2011 19:29

State Nursery Schools (not nursery classes) also have head teachers and many offer flexible sessions. We offer full days and a mixture of 3 hour morning or afternoon sessions.

mrz · 11/05/2011 19:31

in addition a nursery school or class must have qualified teaching staff which may not be the case in many pre schools and day nurseries.

fifi25 · 11/05/2011 20:21

Mrs Moppet - Yes the nursery with the headmaster is attached to one of the local primarys. The nursery i am using is a private one which offers places when the kids are 3 if places are available.

Someone said there were only 3 kids took places on the Easter in take at the state nursery. There are 4 nurserys close to each other. One is a babygroup/preschool where you pay till they are 3. One is a state and 2 private day nurserys.

The private nursery does have a qualified nursery teacher but the playgroup/preschool where my other 2 daughter went didnt.

I think the birthrate has been low in my area for 2007/2008 as the intake for my daughters school in September has a lot of children from outside the catchment.

I rang him and explained that i had my name on both lists for over a year and the hours at the private suited me better. I also told him my other 2 daughters sisnt go to state and i am well aware that i can accept a place where i choose.

I got the impression that for some reason more people are using the private one and the school nursery is not getting filled.

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mrz · 11/05/2011 20:28

We had the reverse situation where the owner of the nearby day nursery accused the school of putting her out of business.

NerfHerder · 11/05/2011 20:51

Very odd behaviour! Ignore it.

Cold I ask roughly where you are? Just wondering about falling roles, as most places seem to be having baby booms.

fifi25 · 11/05/2011 21:33

Im in co durham. My daughters school is always massivly oversubscribed. There were over 70 kids applied for a place in Sept 2010. Apparently everyones in this year for 30 places. The last time this happened was my eldest daughters intake in 2004 where 26 children applied. Every other year they have far too many kids for 30 places.

There were 3 nurseys 9 year agos. 1 state, 1 private and one preschool/babygroup spread out. They opened quite a well known nursery next door to the state one.

They actually offer wrap around care where if a child is in all day they can do the morning session with lunch at the private then the afternoon session at the state.

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fifi25 · 11/05/2011 21:36

Sorry I live in co durham but its a Gateshead school. We had a parish council and have a durham postcode but fall under Gateshead for schools

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NerfHerder · 11/05/2011 22:02

Sorry for my shocking spelling!

Interesting situation- I know lots of schools having to put on extra classes as the BR is climbing so much.

I think a lot of parents who work choose to stick with a private provider, simply because it's impossible to manage the practicalities of a part-time school day.

I understand the state private is losing money... but even if he allows you to do mornings private, afternoon state you'd still be stuck with a 3pm pick-up which isn't practical for most working parents. I can't believe he'd go so far as to ring up parents and have a go at them! Thank goodness it's a stand-alone nursery school, not the attached nursery class where she'd end up- I don't think I would have any respect for a Head that behaved that way.

fifi25 · 11/05/2011 22:09

Thats what i thought, there must be a reason he is behaving like this. The school its attached to was rebuilt in the last 6 weeks holidays and is now one of the state of the art ones with all the mod cons. It did have quite a bad reputation. I can only assume he is not getting nearly enough kids to fill the nursery/school and he didnt know i have another 2 kids who already attend a different primary so assumed i wouldnt be going to that school. God knows but he want very happy.

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