Monkey pox

[Againlosinghope]

What are people thought on this new strain?

glad I bought extra big roll already

Look up symptoms, buy OTC meds you might need.

Bog

Big bag bog roll!

It's worth keeping an eye on, and looking at your preps to see if you are as prepped as you can be.

Was there anything about COVID you missed?

Thanks for asking and starting a thread about this. I want to know also. I don't think there will be lockdowns or anything like that (people won't comply so easily this time). I'm more worried about the misinformation: treating us people like idiots unable to process information and protect ourselves.
There are already different sources saying different things re contagion. I think the best way to start prepparing for anything is to have reliable information to be able to maje your choices wisely.

I will definitely be watching and making sure I have enough preps so that I can stay at home more if it becomes a problem here. I have a disabled child with a weak immune system who is unable to understand any instructions I might give him. He has no idea of personal space and touches everything and puts everything in his mouth like a much younger child.

100% agree with every thing you said apart from the "people won't comply so easily this time" comment.
Mpox is very visible unlike Covid, it looks unsightly and different, and people don't like different so will fear it. They won't want to catch it and look like "that", so will actually comply more than during Covid.

@Ikeaismyhappyplace that is a very intelligent strategy, indeed.
@andymary you make a good point, I hadn't thought about the "looks" aspect of this disease.

In other threads people are saying they won't comply with any restrictions, lots of people thinking it's only spread via sexual contact too but people may change views due to visual aspect and because children could.be effected much more.
Does anyone know if your contagious before visible pox appear?

Where are the stats on it being more dangerous to children? NHS website says it’s a mild condition for most people that passes in a couple of weeks without treatment.

I really don’t understand why people are leaping to the idea of lockdowns.

This is a new strain though. The WHO has just announced a health emergency, which is why people are wondering what will happen.

The previous common mpox strain called Clade 11 has a 0.01% mortality rate, which comparing against Covid worldwide figures is/was also at a 0.01% mortality rate, so are pretty much the same risk and death rate.

However, the current strain of mpox, Clade 1B has been seeing a mortality rate of over 5% in some areas. That's 500x more deaths than Covid.
So if it spreads as much as Covid did to 705,000,000 reported cases worldwide, then that would mean there could be up to 35,250,000 deaths, vs the 7,000,000 deaths caused by Covid.

My normal prepping stores will cope with a couple of months of lockdown, if it comes to it. As things stand we might get a bit bored with lentil curry and rice towards the end, but at least its food!

I am going to stock up a bit more on paracetamol and manuka honey, I do this anyway about the end of September for the winter colds, so its just 6 weeks or so earlier than normal.

I'm more worried about any pandemic impacting on supplies of our normal prescriptions, and DH is waiting for an operation, so I hope he gets that done before anything kicks off and the NHS crumbles. It feels a bit like its hanging on by a thread to me now anyway.

Oh crikey. I mean, gulp...I feel my 18 loo rolls and dried beans aren't gong to be much help in this scenario. I think we would be looking at martial law and all private stocks of food being seized and going to central kitchens if this is right.

It's concerning of course but I don't think there's cause for mass panic as yet.
It's a very different virus to COVID, you need very close contact to catch it. There is also a vaccine that's already approved and being used.
If they decide to vaccinate vulnerable groups, get vaccinated

Going by chickenpox/smallpox then yes you will be able to catch it before the rash appears. Early symptoms are very much like a cold/flu

But it won't spread in the same way as covid did because it's a completely different virus that behaves in a completely different way? You're comparing apples and oranges to make up stats and that won't be helpful. There is also a vaccine for mpox, unlike when covid first hit.

One of the reasons the mortality rate is so high is because it is mostly impacting individuals in countries with poor health services. One of the reasons the WHO has raised the level of alert is to try and raise funding to enable better care and vaccinations in these countries.

"You're comparing apples and oranges to make up stats and that won't be helpful. "

That's why in my post I specifically used the terms "in some areas", "if" and "up to" and not definitive values and facts.
Of course, there are thousands of variables that can change the outcome. I was just making a point to the person I was replying to regarding why mpox could be seen to be just as dangerous as, or more dangerous as Covid.

But so could rabies or hiv or other viruses that have a high mortality rate in certain circumstances/areas. But you can't compare and extrapolate the data because they are entirely different and spread and behave very differently.

This mpox strain is pretty new, nobody knows what it's going to do. Nobody is talking about rabies or HIV, those are already well studied and well documented, with no current threats of new strains. The original question was referring to why some people are comparing a what might happen with mpox to the lockdowns from Covid. One of many theories were given. Thank you for your input 👏

I just read I the news that the r value for mpox is between two and three. Which is high. I think much higher than covid. Could be pretty scary. I came on here at the beginning of covid when prepping and it was all so helpful. Thanks for starting this thread

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I would doubt that centralisation would be the approach during a virus. People coming into houses and then feeding everyone communally would spread everything faster. I think it would be more likely in a war situation, where thongs are dangerous, but not contagious.