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Novice prepper - what am I missing?

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FuckertyBoo · 26/03/2019 08:32

So, I began buying some extra bits and pieces for my food cupboard, when I realised that I wasn’t realistically going to be able to go back to work after dcs.

We are totally reliant on my dh’s one salary, so I wanted to have a cushion if we ever found ourselves in trouble.

So I have a little stock of tinned things like baked beans, tuna, tea, coffee, crackers, pasta, rice, dried pulses, instant mash, treat things, like big bars of chocolate and some booze Blush.

I don’t drink very much or very often, but if we were ever in dire straits I think a small glass of something nice would be such a nice treat.

Today, I’m off to buy some butter for the freezer - I did NOT know you can freeze butter till I read it on here, so thank you MN!

I also have a few extra bottles of shampoo and conditioner, toothbrushes, toothpaste, washing detergent, dishwasher tablets. I have a decent stock of reusable nappies and reusable sanpro for the baby and me.

What obvious things would you wise ones say I might be missing please?

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bellinisurge · 26/03/2019 09:03

If it's about general prepping rather than Brexit prepping, I would look first at your budget (do this for Brexit prepping too, general reader!) Then look at likely problems. Then look at manageable projects. Let's say "power cuts"as one. Think about putting together a Lights Out box. Look at learning skills like water collection and purification; baking bread; gardening- now is a great time to start off some spuds or whatever veggies you actually eat and have space for. Look at building up your fitness- kids too. Any use?

FuckertyBoo · 26/03/2019 09:20

Thanks bellin Flowers. I really appreciate you posting to advise.

Yes, general prep, not for Brexit. Although, I guess if Brexit does go (even more) tits up, then a few extra tins of beans isn’t going to do me any harm!

So, it’s really just a cushion for any potential financial hardship. That could cover utilities too, but tbh, my plan would be to have a stash of tangible items we need, so that we don’t have to shop and therefore CAN pay those bills.

We have a water butt and I have some water purification tablets, if we ever got totally desperate. But it’s really there to water the garden and therefore save us money.

I’ve started a ‘low tolerance of food waste’ policy at home now too, so am trying to make meals that will keep in the fridge if dcs refuse to eat them! As little as possible in the bin as it’s such a waste.

I have a good first aid kit as well, but, thank god, the nhs is free, so going to a&e wouldn't cost us anything. I just wouldn’t like to ever be in the position where I couldn’t afford plasters for my dc’s scraped knee! Ditto painkillers for mild illnesses.

Growing veg is something I keep meaning to do and potatoes would be a good start Smile - I HEART SPUDS Grin.

I go to the gym and do two, (sometimes three) yoga classes a week. But, it’s very expensive to do both... so not sure I should keep both up. The dcs are very young and the older one is naturally quite active. The baby is only toddling, so that’s his ‘fitness and exercise’.

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bellinisurge · 26/03/2019 09:55

No need to chuck money at a gym - being active with your children is just fine.
Maybe look at family friendly hikes and even learning some bushcraft skills together .
If you can do a first aid course at some point, also good.
Keep it affordable, proportionate and reasonable.
Look at jam making for later in the year- think of it as a fun skill and yummy with homemade bread.

FuckertyBoo · 26/03/2019 09:59

Thanks, I did a Red Cross first aid course a while ago, but it has expired... maybe I should go on a refresher course.

I know you’re right re the gym, but I don’t like running where we live and prefer the treadmill Blush.

And I so love my yoga classes.

But you’re right, I know.

I love the idea of bushcraft classes. My older one would LOVE that!

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BlackeyedGruesome · 26/03/2019 11:13

Vegetable gardening preferably stuff you can grow in the soil.

Start a compost heap so you can grow stuff in pots another year.

ElyElyOy · 26/03/2019 13:11

I’m a low level prepper, mainly for financial reasons, and very much support reducing what you spend as a good start to prepping.

Have a look for forest school clubs in your area. They often have them where you can go with your children and learn about making fire, foraging for food, growing your own. It’s also about “free” entertainment and activities. Our local one is also linked with a 4Rs group (Reduce, Reuse, Repair, Recycle) and they have mending get-togethers and have swap shops etc. It’s also a good physical activity and I bet you will be able to take littlest with you too, they are usually really welcoming groups Smile

Look for free stuff on via your local council and library. Or make a list of every local park etc.

FuckertyBoo · 26/03/2019 13:57

Thanks both Flowers.

Unfortunately the soil in my garden is very stoney, so it would probably need to be pots. Although I could try and cultivate it... I might be in time to do that and sow some spuds in April.

I know about the spending and the gym definitely falls under that category. I could reduce my yoga classes as well, but they’re so good, it would make me sad to do so. I can’t quit the gym for another three months anyway. I will try and find a run club in the meantime so I wouldn’t have to run on my own, which I’d feel a little bit nervous doing round here.

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bellinisurge · 26/03/2019 14:08

Following the suggestion found on the Home Grown Veg YouTube channel, I planted spuds in a mixture of dead seaweed and dead leaves for last year's lot. Worked a treat.
Trip to the seaside (about an hour away) to gather up some seaweed. Left it out to get rained on. Collected a bag of dead autumn leaves (still some kicking around if you are careful about habitats for beasties that live there.
Put rained on seaweed and leaves in a pot. Put in a couple of seed potatoes (or chitter supermarket spuds). Earthed up with leaves or bits of mud as per usual with potatoes. Very yummy.
Or use multipurpose compost that is cheap from the supermarket.
Veg growing is all about experiments and making the best of what you have.

BiddyPop · 26/03/2019 14:47

I would advise starting small with the garden - a couple of pots of compost and buying a couple of high-production plants from the garden centre for year 1, and perhaps a small patch of potatoes. Things like tomatoes, or sweet peppers, or courgettes are all good if you have decent sized pots. "Bush" type tomatoes (varieties like "tumbling tom" and I think "Sungold" are good ones) can be grown in hanging baskets if space is an issue. Broad beans or peas or French beans can be pretty productive in a small space, and grow easily from seed (I grow dwarf French beans in window boxes, and peas up against the fence so they almost disappear there).

But only grow what you and your family will eat - not what everyone on the net says are good to grow. And preferably things that are expensive to buy versus growing (peppers, chillies, courgettes), or are difficult to find in shops (eg rainbow chard) or that taste particularly good when fresh from the garden versus days later in shops (peas, salad leaves, radishes).

Do a little this year, and maybe a little more next year, and improve the soil slowly over the years. Don't try to achieve it all at once. And build up a compost bin or heap for improving the soil - veg peelings, apple cores, tea leaves/bags, coffee grounds, etc - a little bit of citrus peel is fine, but no cooked food or anything with meat. Making your own compost cuts your costs (less need to buy it), cuts your bills (reduces bins bill) and helps improve the environment (not sending compost materials to landfill but recycling within the ecosystem to grow more good food for the family at much lower food miles).

And in terms of entertaining DCs, look at cheap or free ideas that are active. Like the family hikes mentioned. National trust type places. Nature walks or foraging walks as a family. Do some research before you go places to make the most of them - so learn about historical facts or some ecology of the area (might you find particular types of trees, or is it a good time to see tadpoles or sheep or maybe its dragonfly season....). Or to add bits of education to outings in various ways (homeschooling sites are great for this, even if you have no intention to homeschool - just to feed their imagination and stretch their interests in things). Buy things like wellie boots and waterproofs, and allow the DCs to jump in puddles and climb trees and build shelters....

Keep things that may be useful - like a button jar and a screws jar for repairs - but sometimes they can become raw materials for fun projects too.

It might seem counter-intuitive, but try, if possible, to buy good quality items, especially for yourself and DH, or that will be used for a long time by DCs, rather than cheap ones. Usually, that investment will pay off in time as they will last much longer.

With DD, I tended to get lots of cheaper items for everyday wear, as we were both out at work all day and I was also not precious if they got very muddy or covered in spag bol or paint etc, but spend a reasonable amount on good outdoor layers and a couple of key wardrobe items that got a lot of use (always including shoes in that). Cloth nappies were great, for use at home - although crèche never took them - but we still more than got our monies-worth from them and sold them on when DD was finished so got quite a lot of the money back again. And so much better for the environment too.

Another great skill with small DCs is sewing - for repairs to clothes, and being able to put together dressing up ideas much cheaper. It also helps with furnishing things at home (cushion covers can be done very cheaply and make dramatic differences to a room, or making curtains can be literally half the cost of buying them already made). Or getting things in charity shops and re-purposing them.

Learning to do things the "old fashioned" way - like hanging clothes outdoor to dry, or making stock from chicken carcasses, or using up leftovers - are all great skills for preppers and frugal people to have.

Snugglepumpkin · 26/03/2019 15:19

If you are prepping for the long haul, then one of the most important things I rarely see mentioned for new preppers is that you need to prep your finances.
You need to set up a budget, clearly see what you spend your money on & what debts you have (if any) , what your living costs are on a weekly/monthly basis & work towards being in the position to have zero debt & as an ideal minimum enough to fund your ongoing bills for 6 months.
This can be a hard thing to do because many people are living on next months wages but it gets easier over time.
Preppers don't just prep by putting things in the cupboard and if what you are prepping for is a resilient life, financial prepping is crucial.

bellinisurge · 26/03/2019 15:48

I agree that reducing or eliminating debt is important. I'd see it as part of a package of proportionate budget friendly prepping - taking an issue as a project and making any further investment a sensible one.

BlackeyedGruesome · 26/03/2019 19:38

If you like any peas or beans, they are good to grow in your soil as they improve the soil. Try and clear a small patch for your favourite veg or fruit and build up next year. If you have neighbours who grow stuff see if you can ask what grows well in your area and what is a good time to plant out.

If you have space grow raspberry canes. They grow wild here until someone comes and slashes them back to ground level.

Diversion · 26/03/2019 23:50

As others have said reduce any debt first if you have any. Pay off the one with the highest interest first, until you are debt free. Look at ways to reduce your spending, get rid of unused gym memberships, any subscriptions which you really can do without and any charity donations (you can donate again at a later date). Shop for bargains online, consider changing your supermarket to a cheaper one if you can and consider using supermarket own brands if you can. While your children are small they wont notice a difference between the most popular brand of cereal as opposed to a supermarket own. Bulk cook as many meals as you can and freeze them. Scrutinise your budget and see where you can make cuts and keep a close eye on your bank account. If you have any money spare in the budget at the end of the week/month halve it and put half in savings and half towards food and other preps. If you haven't got spare cash concentrate on feeding and clothing your family and paying the bills and remember that you are doing an amazing job in raising your family. Prepping can come later!

AvocadosBeforeMortgages · 27/03/2019 11:32

Do you have any pets? If so it's a good idea to get their supplies in too

bellinisurge · 27/03/2019 11:35

I have a buffer of pet food for my cat.
I also have a cat bug out bag. This isn't a Brexit thing. Fuck off Daily Mail.

FriarTuck · 28/03/2019 11:43

Could you ditch the yoga classes and buy a yoga dvd and mat to do at home instead? You'd still get your fix but at a one-off low cost.

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