What's your idea of shtf?

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Hi, I'm new to this section, only just found it.
I've had a read of a few threads and a few people go on about skills/equipment etc for when shtf.
What is your idea of that?

I first read about the Cascadia subduction zone whilst staying in a beach house in Oregon. In the middle of the night. I did not sleep well there.

You'll be holidaying high up in future?

And for those people who don't know what the Cascadia Subduction Zone is, here is an article. It's not unrealistic.

I prep for long term power cut. This could be for many reasons but with the rise of cyber attacks it's not completely obscure

No - it's not, I fear.

"Cascadia" what? Does it have anything to do with the Yellowstone Caldera? Or "only" the San Andreas fault line?? Anyway, I just watched someone's footage from the 2011 tsunami, that area seems a bit similar to the "Cascadia subduction zone", no?

I linked, just upthread, to an article about it, language.

For me the obvious ( and have happened on a number of occasions) scenarios are being snowed in, flooded ( I won't be flooded as live on a hill, but have been turned into an island by flooding in the surrounding low lying areas a couple of times in the last few years), prolonged power cuts. Probably fairly safe from earthquakes here in the South West, but we did have a tidal wave in 1607 that killed 2000 people and given the wierd weather we seem to be experiencing now, who knows if it could happen again?

Thanks for tipping me off about something I didn't know about, the wave of 1607. I just watched a most interesting documentary about it, obviously there runs an ancient earthquake fault line right in the estuary: www.dailymotion.com/video/xlgev9_the-killer-wave-of-1607-timewatch_shortfilms

Interesting documentary. I'm convinced enough about the tsunami (I've been in a hurricane-type situation and the storm surges have quite different characteristics) although I'm not so happy with their science. I'd have liked a little more discussion of meteotsunamis for example. Food for thought, though, nonetheless.

The moral? Buy or build inland and high!

When I bought my house, the survey suggested " moderate risk of flooding". If I'm flooded, the surrounding area would be lost forever! There are a few markings on old buildings around here showing the point that the waters reached in 1607.

When you think about it, 'normal' flooding wasn't quite so much of a problem backaways. No electricity, no sewage lines, few possessions, stone flags on the floor etc etc etc. Much of the time, you'd be waiting for the water to recede and then brushing out the house and bringing your chairs back down to the ground floor.

I still wouldn't buy anything called similar to 'Mill Cottage', Weeds.

I think mine was a pub, of the type where people brought along their jugs to be filled up to take home, basically someone's living room with a few barrels and benches. The old maps show 12 pubs on a road that's maybe a mile long! As well as a Temperance Hall ( good luck with that). There was a brewery and a paper mill in the low part of the village by the river and main spring and the village was famous for watercress. I still pick it, but I think a lot of people don't realise what it is, they just see it as some sort of river weed and pop to Waitrose for theirs!

Now be fair. The good burghers of the town probably thought - and with some justification, it sounds - as if a Temperance Hall was much needed!

Given that there was a brewery, in addition to being the heart of cider country, the Temperance mob must have been working as hard as the guy who knocked on my door trying to sell cavity wall insulation a few months ago. We both sorrowfully observed my 2 foot thick limestone walls and agreed it would probably prove a struggle to install.

Well look on the bright side. You don't own a beachfront condo in Oregon.

that's really interesting about the Cascadia subduction zone. In a "oh my!" kinda way!

It might not happen - a full margin rupture, anyway - for 100 years, Tondelaya. (On the other hand, it might be starting as I type these words.)

There's a school of thought that holds, I fear, that the longer it delays, the worse it could be. (This references 'tectonic' events, magma chambers such as at Yellowstone being even less predictable in their behaviour.) It's kind of understandable as well, given the stresses in the rock and the land.

yes...yellowstone is due to pop at any moment isn't it?

That and Betelguese....going to go off pop any day now

It's coming at us from all angles!

Thank you for the link language I haven't seen that documentary before. It's more folk law here, plus the physical markers on churches and old pubs. I can remember the 1981 flood, it was pretty much up to the field behind the house and we were 5 miles inland! I can remember going into Burnham on Sea and there were mattresses and furniture in the streets.

No safety, Tondelay!

But No. I don't think that the Yellowstone caldera is due to go - at least in an apocalyptic way. (Who can tell though?)

Sorry. Tondelaya.

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Isn't that exactly why we all hang out here?

Natural disaster
Terrorism attacks on a wide scale
Economy collapse
Outbreak of war
Cyber attacks (I am continually surprised about how little press these get unless they pertain to the US elections, there have been several in the last few years)
Mass out break of an illness be it deliberate or natural