What is your "Every Day Carry" or EDC?

[chilledwarmth]

For me

• Android phone, I have an In Case Of Emergency app with all medical info about me, and contact info for people I'd want emergency services to notify. That one specific app can be accessed without having to unlock the phone

• Glock 19 and spare mag

• Leatherman Wave

• Wallet with ID, credit card, and a bit of money

• Fenix TK15 flashlight

• Protein Bar

• Waterproof notebook and pen

• Lighter

• Keys (car and house)

You carry a gun but don't have tissues on your list?!

I lucky if I remember my keys most days.

Hello mrstiggy, I wasn't aware it was an attempt to get me to ditch it lol. But yeah sorry you won't convince me on that. You don't need to carry a lot on you, just enough to get you home or to wherever it is you're going. Hand sanitiser can be very useful if you are "caught short" as I believe they say. Thanks for the thanks! :)

I already told you the circumstances. Those people desperately resorting to throwing objects at the Tunisian gunman would have had a better choice of weapon. The people hiding from the terrorists at the Bataclan would have been able to put up a fight if discovered. That's not certainty but it is a chance of a better outcome, and you only asked for "any chance at all".

Been on mn nearly 10 years. Just can't believe the pure shit on this board. We actually have a safe space for gun worshipping? In case of Armageddon? What's happening here?

hehe llhj you don't want to believe all you hear, we don't all worship guns. There's some freaks for sure that get played up into a hype by the media but most of us are sensible. We just carry for protection, but hopefully never need to. Good record so far. Are the first two letters in your username capital ii or lower case ll I couldn't tell?

The preppers board is still finding its feet. There is definitely a need for it - generally for all the rural MNers as we go into winter, the disasters and emergencies that can occur all over (flood, fire), and the MNers abroad who need to worry about things like earthquakes.

I personally had a flood that costs me tens of thousands of pounds six months ago :(

BUT there is preparedness and then there is hysteria and Chicken Licken nonsense. And IMO this board needs to get better at coming down on the hysteria like a ton of bricks. People keep complaining about being stereotyped but they allow way too much paranoia and unfounded fearmongering to go unchallenged (often because it's posted by a regular), and until the Preppers board gets better at policing itself it is going to get a lot of ridicule from the rest of MN.

To be fair, this thread poking fun at the notion of carrying guns around, and the Paris thread I mentioned earlier, are good examples of the board starting to police itself.

More of that, less of the nonsense (much of which is imported from America - not all American preppers are loony, the higher risk of natural disasters and the doctrine of churches like the LDS makes prepping a bit more mainstream, but the idiots seem to congregate online).

Just popping back as it seems extremely rude not to reply to a comment, but equally don't want to be drawn into a gun control chat as I have little to contribute - thanks for the reply chilled - the posts above explaining that there is a difference between "guns" and "charging in with fists" cover my feelings on it.

holdmecloser, thanks for your posts too.

llhj, surely you can see your comment isn't true? One poster here is from an extremely different culture and has a gun in her bag. Another poster would like one because he thinks it would have changed the outcome recently. Everyone else has either gently mocked the concept or been outright against the idea. So please don't be so dismissive of a whole subject area like that.

(Having said that, if these boards do turn into a hysterical "put one through their heads before them get us" sort of place, I will join you in staring in horror and abandoning!)

Also hate guns.

Have a look at the sticky thread.

By all means kill the board if you want to, but that would be a crying shame as there are loads of possibly life saving things on here such as fire safety and road safety.

Or if you wish to be constructive join in and post ideas for a title on the sticky thread.

I imagine that if this sort of stuff gets normalised/goes unchallenged on this board, then MNHQ will clamp down pretty quick.

Sorry but no I can't see anything of the sort. This forum is supposed to be for supportive parenting. Instead we now have created a board which allows/encourages/normalises something (carrying a gun). This sort of nonsense wouldn't even appear before this space has been created. Now it's OK as long as it's challenged. No actually it's not.

That's to kacie.

I consider carrying guns to be a total anathema in our society. It's not for protection, that's just what you persuade yourself of.
It's a double l for Lucy.

But where is it ok and normalised here llhj? I really think you're worrying over nothing. Mumsnet is not about to become a pro-gun or flamethrower lobby.

(If you have a moment and are really concerned about this, you could also pop to the thread called "Sticky" where the "rules/description" of this new area is being discussed )

Chilled - in the UK most police do not carry a gun either, only the armed police. Something like 6,000 police are armed out of 40,000. So the average police you see in the UK will not be armed. They just have pepper spray and a truncheon.

The vast majority of people on this thread are aghast at the idea of carrying a gun, llhj. It totally is not what anyone who asked for the board was envisaging. I think the ridicule aimed at whatshisface is this board's way of trying to get back to the 'how much water do I need for a couple of days if the power goes off' which was very much the original idea. Nobody is attempting to normalise carrying a gun, except an American for whom it is already normal, sadly.

OK. Hopefully a new title and sticky thread should appear at the top of this topic in due course.

Perhaps you could help keep the topic more sensible by posting your tips on home safety, fire safety and so on. And also by reporting any extreme views. Thanks.

This is the only thread I've seen so far where anyone has mentioned owning a handgun (I've seen a couple of rifles mentioned, but there's a fairly high percentage or ruralites here so not unusual).

And, tbf llhj this isn't just a supportive parenting forum, or we wouldn't have boards dedicated to yoga, ford cars, the royal family or about a hundred other far flung and isolated pockets of randomness. Including prepping.

llhj not quite sure why you are using such an aggressive tone. And wanting our 'space' as you call it, for chatting obliterated.

This is a site which includes supportive parenting. It is also a site with an enormous number of members who aren't parents at all. It is a site with many, many topics not directly linked to parenting, which includes prepping.

However, a lot of us on this board are parents and it makes it doubly important to us to feel prepared so we are in control to look after our children and ourselves in the event of an emergency.

But if you call yourselves "preppers" this is what happens. You attrAct the loony tunes with their guns and stockades and confederate flags. That's what prepping is. What you are is what most people are- or wish they were- the people who have a blanket and a snow shovel in the car in the winter- who make sure they've got a weeks worth of food and gin in if there's snow forecast and who know where the torch and the spare batteries are. That's not what "preppers" are. They are preparing for the complete breakdown of society. A candle and box of Waitrose biscuits isnmt going to help you there!

Yes, I accept that the odd thread will be about weapons. I don't see that having that discussion is a problem. And I don't think llhj should feel she has the tp right to shut us down brcause there is a gun discussion. And actually the OP isn't about guns originally, it just got picked up and took that turn.

There is a move afoot to change the topic from 'Preppers' to somethjng else, by the other pepper thread users. Personally I'd like it to stay as ''Preppers', I like it.

"Forward Thinkers"
That's all we are.
There's no difference between 'us' and 'them' other than the fact that we know exactly where our candles are in the event of a power cut and do not have to spend 20 minutes rootling under the sink mumbling 'I know there's a couple of old tea lights in here somewhere'.
The main issues I plan for are adverse weather (live on the marshes), power cuts (still on overheads and boy the wind comes in over the marshes) and disruption to public transport.
I'm not interested in weaponry of any sort. I don't believe I will have to defend myself against marauding mobs of zombies or, for that matter, Millwall supporters. To me the end of days means wincey pyjamas, cocoa and my kindle.
I accept, especially at the moment, that some of our LE officers need to be armed and i endorse that. Other than that, weapons are a Bad Thing.
However, having a good supply of hot dog sausages and Fox's biscuits to enjoy during a candlelit game of Cluedo on a dark January night is not a Bad Thing.

Bertrand, anything that people are interested in has an extreme end somewhere. That is human nature. Prepping is literally preparing for something you have a reasonable expectation will occur. It doesn't matter what that something is (natural disaster or man made).

Some people very definitely fall at the extreme end of it. But then so do some train spotters, gym users, genre fans, car owners, and everything else.

I can also identify multiple constellations and features, enjoy watching programs about astronomy and space science and am a member of a number of astronomy forums and boards, but I don't own a telescope, I rarely buy magazines and I can't afford to travel to see good dark sky sites. Even though it's all pretty basic, I still consider myself an astronomer.

You seem extremely insistent that we aren't actually preppers, why is that?

"You seem extremely insistent that we aren't actually preppers, why is that?"

Because you're not! Ironically, the fact that everyone's so shocked at the thought of guns proves it.

So because we don't all think the total and utter end of the world is nigh and everyone will need to be armed to fight to the death, but are instead focusing on preparing and planning for a more regular crisis we can't be preppers?

I think you may be confusing survivalism with prepping (there is a large overlap).