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Selective termination of twin due to Down Syndrome

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DaisyPoppy23 · 16/09/2022 12:44

Not too sure why I’m messaging. Possibly to vent or maybe find people with similar experiences. I could do with some positivity!

I will try to keep this as brief as possible. We were over the moon to find out we were expecting twins (DCDA). We shared the news at about 17 weeks with friends and family and everyone was so excited! We felt blessed! Then, at our 20 week anomaly scan, a heart defect and query over a missing kidney was detected in one of the twins. We were referred to a fetal medicine unit and paediatric cardiologist. Fast forward a few weeks from there and we are told that one of the twin has a pelvic kidney (which isn’t too much of an issue) but also a severe heart defect called AVSD which would mean open heart surgery in the first year of the baby being born. We were then told that this defect meant there was a 50% chance of the baby being Down Syndrome. They sent us for a NIPT test straightaway which came back as highly likely for Down syndrome. We were then advised to have the amino to confirm that this was the case and to also check which twin had it. The amino results have come back to confirm Down Syndrome in the twin with the heart defect but the other twin’s results came back normal. We have decided to have the selective termination as we feel that raising a child with a severe disability isn’t right for our family. We already have a 15 month old and will of course have another new born. I appreciate this isn’t what everyone would do but we have to do what is right for us and our family. The predicament we are having is when to have the selective termination. We were told to wait until 32 weeks to give the healthy twin the best possible chance in case it triggers pre term labour. There is a 1% chance of this happening. I am terrified of waiting that long as I am so worried they will arrive early, as twins often can. I am also not a big person at all and I’m already struggling with carrying them both and running around after my 15 month old. If we terminate now and it does trigger pre term labour then there’s every chance that the healthy twin could be effected and have a severe disability because of being so premature. I am considering waiting until 30 weeks so there is more chance for the healthy twin. I feel absolutely terrified about this whole situation and so completely alone. My family don’t live near me and my partner works 4am until 8pm, 7 days a week. I am really struggling with holding it altogether for my 15 month old. To top it all off, she’s going through some awful sleep regression and I’m absolutely exhausted. I’m usually a patient and laid back person but I feel completely defeated and at my wits end. I honestly feel like I’ve got to the point of not being able to cope.
I wish someone would tell me what to do and that everything will be ok but I know that can’t happen. Any wise and positive words to get me out of this hole would be most appreciative. Also, perhaps any advice on the best time for the selective termination would be really useful. I don’t know if I’m in the best frame of mind to make such a decision. There just seems to be a risk whichever way we go forward. Help!

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billybassie · 16/09/2022 15:58

BernadetteRostankowskiWolowitz · 16/09/2022 15:12

Thank god we live in a country where there is a choice on this.

Absolutely.

abovedecknotbelow · 16/09/2022 15:58

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Because there are so many people who want take on a child who could be profoundly disabled. Fuck Off.

YouHaveAnArse · 16/09/2022 15:59

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She's made her decision. Please don't imply she's being 'unkind' by choosing what she feels is best for her, her family and her unborn child.

NotMyDayJob · 16/09/2022 15:59

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This is not a helpful suggestion. Kinder to who?

Summerslam · 16/09/2022 15:59

Sending you love and strength for the remainder of your pregnancy. Only you know how you feel and what is the best decision for you and your family. It's bloody hard.

NotMyDayJob · 16/09/2022 16:00

CoffeeLover90 · 16/09/2022 15:56

I hadn't read the full thread before I'd commented (with a little practical advice and some support) but I can see now why the OP stopped commenting. She's probably hiding in a corner somewhere. So congratulations to all those who suggested she rethink this decision, especially those who said whoppee I'm parenting a disabled child, well done you. She doesn't need to hear positive stories about your friends kids, your own kids or people you work with. She knows adoption is possible, she's not stupid. With all due respect, she doesn't care, she's thinking about her own family, her circumstances, she doesn't need this right now.
I get it's a sensitive subject but she's not going to change her mind but do feel free to pat yourselves on the back for kicking her while she's down.

All this.

It's hard OP but you need to do what is right for you and your family. Unmumsnetty hugs from me for being in such a horrible situation

ButterOllocks · 16/09/2022 16:00

It's heartbreaking, not something I have had to deal with, but I do have disabled child, and it takes all of your emotional and physical strength - and impacts on the quality of life for my other son. As you have the choice - it's yours and your families life you are impacting, I think you are doing the right thing xxx

CoffeeLover90 · 16/09/2022 16:00

@Icedlatteplease you are my favourite. I'm sure you're a fantastic mother and I hope the OP can come back and see what you've written. The poor woman is probably feeling judged by parents of SN kids after some of the comments on here.

billybassie · 16/09/2022 16:01

unicormb · 16/09/2022 15:43

No but I will spend the rest of my life raising my child @LobeliaBaggins and I have to read on here constantly about how he would be terminated by most people because they couldn't cope. They would.

But why should they have to if they do not want to?

mybest · 16/09/2022 16:02

BeBraveLittlePenguin · 16/09/2022 15:57

Why on earth was my post deleted? I was trying to help the OP regarding timing. Waiting to 32 weeks will be agonising, that's far too late for her emotionally given how developed a 32 weeker is, given the decision she's made (& is entitled to make).

oh sorry I didn’t realise you’re an expert in fetal medicine, you should have said 🙄

Soontobe60 · 16/09/2022 16:02

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What a crass response. She absolutely does want this baby, but has chosen a termination for her own totally understandable reasons. Why should she continue her pregnancy to make someone else feel a desire to “save” a baby?

Mosso · 16/09/2022 16:02

I can't imagine what you're going through OP but I'm sending my love to you Flowers

Iliveonahill · 16/09/2022 16:04

Aiionwatha · 16/09/2022 15:19

Is there a reason you'd prefer to abort the down syndrome child rather than him/her up for adoption? Might be something to consider. I know there are a lot of families who choose to adopt disabled children and they really thrive. You could even have some contact with them, without the pressure of having to be their caregiver.

There is a massive shortage of people to adopt children. The system takes forever. Severe lack of staff, budgets etc. Very very few people want disabled children. They end up in care. The op did not ask for your advice on this. I’m an ideal world yes. But the U.K. is no longer an ideal world.

Muminabun · 16/09/2022 16:05

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WarmChocolateFudgeCake · 16/09/2022 16:06

Seems unless you are posting about your regret at keeping a disabled child your posts are deleted, I guess not everyone thinks the same. Good luck with it

OMG12 · 16/09/2022 16:06

Can’t really offer advice but I really feel for you and will be thinking of you all and wishing you the best

PortiaWithNoBreaks · 16/09/2022 16:06

billybassie · 16/09/2022 15:58

Absolutely.

Amen to this. So many of the posts are designed to be deliberately cruel and unkind.

As early as possible, as late as necessary.

Livelovebehappy · 16/09/2022 16:07

What an awful dilemma OP. It must be such a difficult time for you. I hope you stay strong and don’t allow comments from people on here, with their own agendas, to make you wobble. I absolutely could not cope with a child with a disability, and I also respect the fact that everyone is different. You must do what’s right for you, and ignore negativity on this board being thrown your way.

toooldtodate · 16/09/2022 16:08

I have to wade here and say it's wonderful if you are a parent of a single child with health issues and you wouldn't make the decision the OP has if given the chance and I take my hat off to you

But what you have no idea of is parenting twins when one has potentially severe health issues

georgarina · 16/09/2022 16:10

Omg OP I'm so sorry x

Personally I would find it more bearable sooner rather than later, as 1% is a very small risk. And you want it to be as non-invasive as possible.

Good luck x

WoodlandMummy · 16/09/2022 16:14

OMG this thread is full of utter cunts! Keep your unsolicited and unwanted opinions to yourselves. Fucks sake, you’ve driven a woman in dire need of support away. Well done you bunch of odious pricks!

Doingprettywellthanks · 16/09/2022 16:15

WoodlandMummy · 16/09/2022 16:14

OMG this thread is full of utter cunts! Keep your unsolicited and unwanted opinions to yourselves. Fucks sake, you’ve driven a woman in dire need of support away. Well done you bunch of odious pricks!

That is why someone in this position should talk in RL to friends, family or her DH

and not an anonymous chat forum

MayThe4th · 16/09/2022 16:16

OP there is no right or wrong answer here.

To the posters suggesting that the OP terminate the one twin as early as possible, this isn’t a straightforward termination where the pregnancy is terminated and she will give birth at the time of the termination. The disabled twin will be given a drug to stop their heart, and the OP will need to carry that dead baby as well as the surviving twin until she goes into labour.

It’s also possible that the OP could go into labour before the termination is carried out, and if that happens then the disabled twin may be born alive and will be treated accordingly.

There is no easy way around this, and I would urge the OP to seek some counselling to help her to come to terms with whichever outcome happens here.

SirVixofVixHall · 16/09/2022 16:18

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pinkbear95 · 16/09/2022 16:19

Some of the comments are really unnecessary. Just because you may be a parent of a child with severe disabilities that doesn’t mean that somebody else may want to be in the same position.

It’s funny because people on MN will comment saying it’s unethical to abort just because the baby will have a disability, can you not give them up for adoption etc but no one on this forum will be supporting you in real life. No one on here will be helping you day when it comes to looking after 2 kids and one that has a disability. You know your family and you’re making the best decision for them. I hope you received some helpful advice earlier on

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