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Baby kit - what are the essentials?

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Diamondback · 10/06/2010 16:58

So, for those of us expecting our first, can we call upon the wisdom and experience of those of you on your second/third/fourth/etc(!) as to what items are useful to have and what is overpriced or just overrated?

Also, which items are fine secondhand and which really should be bought brand new?

Je suis clueless

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LittleMissSnowShine · 10/06/2010 17:02

Moi aussi lol

All advice greatfully received, esp about weird things like bath seats and bouncy chairs. Are these as good as the shops/magazines suggest or a rip off?

emmyloo2 · 10/06/2010 17:15

Oh god, me also! I am lying awake at night worried about what clothes I need to buy. Seriously. I will be having the baby in the UK in Scotland and then 1 mth later heading to Australia for several months. I just have no idea what the baby will wear during the day in winter here. The little onsies will be too cold. Do I put it in sleeping suits? I am getting stressed just thinking about it!

As for other items - I seem to be making progress there and started making a list....pram, moses basket, bath support thing and bouncy chair, baby monitor etc. Not sure what else...

vmcd28 · 10/06/2010 17:54

OK, if youre like I was, I didnt want any hand-me-downs with my first! I wanted everything to be sparkling and new

THIS time, my second, I am borrowing a crib or Moses basket, and getting back the bouncy chair my DS used (which has now been round 3 other friends)

I also have some friends keeping hold of newborn baby clothes, cos theyre in them for so short a time you dont need lots of new things.

The only thing with borrwing things is that you dont get a choice of what they are. The bouncy chair my DS had was wonderful, and I would have hated to have been lent a rubbish/basic one!

I am a bit funny about the thought of a second hand pram/buggy. So much goo and gunk gets on them that I'd always be a bit squeamish about an older one, even if it looked spotless (Maybe thats just me!)

NO to a baby bath. Some people sit them in their own bath, but I'm not sure I see the point of that. Anyway, ours didnt fit, so we did the bathing on the kitchen table. I think we used it three or four times, then went straight to the normal bath - it was so much easier. We'll get a seat/support thing for in the bath this time. We ended up with bad shoulders holding DS in the bath.

Oh, bath thermometer is great. We STILL use ours, and DS is 5
I could never judge the water temp without it.

My view is, if youre not sure if something is a good idea or not, you possibly wont use it. If youre really just not sure, if it's less than, say, £20, just buy it, and sell it on ebay if you dont use it.

Muslin cloths are good for mopping up spills and vomit. And they wash brilliantly. Again, we still use ours for spills and my DS uses them as picnis mats if he's eating dinner in front of the TV

Never use a second hand mattress or car seat.

beccas · 10/06/2010 18:50

Ok for 2nd hand
Cot frame
Moses basket
baby bath (not essential, get a blow up support)
breast pump
baby bottles
clothes
baby monitors
steriliser

Must buy brand new
all cot matresses
car seat (unless you know it has not been in a crash so only from family or good friends)
bottle teats
dummies

Nice to buy new
Buggy - reasearch is also fun!
Cot sheets and growbags, but 2nd hand is ok - all baby stuff can be washed hot.

Buy later when you have time either new or 2nd hand
Toys, buggy mobile etc
Bumbo

I recommend getting an ebay habit! Baby stuff really holds its value, if you keep boxes and packaging and keep stuff in good condition, you will be surprised at the resale value that items hold.
Do a bit of research! And you will get bought so many clothes when baby arrives, you may not get through them all so leave the tags on and take them back to the shops!

beccas · 10/06/2010 18:52

Oh, got to add
you will get good use out of a quality bouncy chair. make sure you can tolerate the music, and get one that vibrates. The Fisher price jungle one is a good starting point, about £50. But again, perfectly good 2nd hand.

TheArmadillo · 10/06/2010 19:02

FOur main categories

Sleep

I found moses basket useful (as can be moved round the house and used as a travel cot) and have got one for this time round. However they are expensive and you don't use them for that long either go to Asda (£40 for basket and stand) or get second hand. IF you get flat cot sheets you can use them in the basket as well.

Cot if not co sleeping. I go cheap (Ikea) because you always need a new mattress (recommended to reduce SIDS) and last time I bought second hand (only £10 cheaper than ikea basic) I then had to get mattress made to fit which bumped up cost hugely.

Sheets, waterproof sheets (ikea do them for £4.99 each) and then either blankets or gro bags. I'd say 3-4 sets of each in case you have pukey baby.

Clothes

Start with pack of vests (7 or so in pack) and 2 packs of sleepsuits (3 or so in pack) and then buy as you need.

Hat - which type depends on time of year

Cardigan (2)

Coat if not summer

Feeding/changing/bathing

Changing mat
POssibly changing stand unit if you have bad back
EIhter baby bath or seat to go in ordingary bath
Nappies and cotton wool
Flannels
I like hooded baby towels and they are cheap in asda
Breast pads if breast feeding plus lanolin cream
Bottles/steriliser if bottle feeding.
Muslin cloths - big pack as will use for everything

Travel

Pushchair/pram -definately get secondhand you will save a fortune (usually less than half new price).
Car seat - new unless from someone you trust
Sling if you want - get advice first
Changing bag - join boots parenting club and get voucher for free bag.

TheArmadillo · 10/06/2010 19:03

bouncy chairs are also great.

Only thing really have to buy new is mattress, car seat and bottles.

Baby monitor - usually best to wait to see if you need one.

mrspear · 10/06/2010 19:07

One little thing to think about if you have a winter baby: is your bathroom cold? Ours is cold - hot showers required - as there is no radiator. So we bought a baby bath and put it on the coffee table to wash baby! Infact we are still doing that

BertieBotts · 10/06/2010 19:42

Absolute needed -

Somewhere for baby to sleep which fits in your room, so a cot/cotbed/crib/moses basket/baby hammock/something to prevent them from falling out of bed if you choose to co-sleep.

Something portable for sleeping in/putting the baby down during the day. Either a moses basket or carrycot, reclined bouncy chair or baby swing, or use the pram, or get a really comfy sling. Can also just put them down on a blanket but be careful if on sofas etc because you don't know when they will start to roll (not just off the sofa, but into cushions etc which is a suffocation risk). Leaving them to sleep in the car seat is not a good idea as a rule, though I tended to leave DS sleeping in his if we had driven somewhere. It was the exception rather than the rule though.

Something to transport them around in - car seat essential, whether you drive or not, and a pram/lie flat pushchair/decent sling.

Clothing and a few blankets. Sun hat if due in summer, normal hat (and at least one warm blanket) if due in winter. About 10 complete changes of outfit minimum. One outfit comprises a vest and either a top and trousers set + socks or a sleepsuit (babygrow), add a cardigan if it's cold.

Feeding needs - bottles, bottle brush, steriliser and formula if bottlefeeding. Nursing bras and breast pads if breastfeeding.

Bathing/changing - nappies - cloth or disposable. Cotton wool and a small bowl for water, or washable wipes. Muslins or cotton or terry squares for burp/sick/general spill wiping cloths.

On this front, you don't need baby bath stuff - should be water only for the first few months,

Basic first aid kit - an oral syringe for giving medicine (you get them free with baby nurofen, I think, or can buy them from chemists), baby paracetamol for first jabs, and an easy to use thermometer - the ear ones are good but not that necessary. An armpit one is fine. The forehead ones are useless with a baby because they get annoyed trying to see what you are sticking to their head! Any other medication (infacol etc) can be bought as and when needed.

That is all you NEED. Nice/helpful to have is:

A compatible buggy and carseat for really quick journeys. Also a base for the carseat which stays in the car and means you just click it in and out rather than strapping it in all the time (depends how much you drive I suppose)

A sling even if you plan to use the buggy all the time - means you can hold your baby AND get stuff done with your hands free. Don't just get a baby bjorn/tomy/own brand one - do a bit of research and get a good one. Stretchy wraps or ring slings are my favourite for newborns.

Decent digital camera and a card reader so you can download the photos quickly and make space for more!

Insulated mug for keeping hot drinks hot

Box sets of Friends or other equally long and amusing TV series, for the marthon breastfeeding sessions in the early days.

Tube of Lansinoh if breastfeeding. You can wait and see if you need it, but if you have it on hand you can use it at the first signs of soreness.

Loads of meals in the freezer - things like spag bol and curries and casseroles which can be reheated easily.

Breast pump and a few bottles - useful to have in case you want to leave the baby with anyone. Not essential though. You don't really need a steriliser if you aren't using bottles regularly, you can just wash the bottles really well as breastmilk has antibacterial properties.

Baby swing/bouncy chair type thing. IMO a really basic bouncy chair which is just a piece of fabric stretched over a metal frame is perfectly adequate. They soon work out how to rock it themselves by kicking. I got one from an NCT nearly new sale for £2.50. If you want your baby to sleep in it then get one which is as reclined as you can or which has multiple reclining positions. I am not sure about the ones which vibrate - I read somewhere that there are concerns they may damage babies' joints (though haven't been able to find it again, so I might have imagined it completely!)

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Things I found completely useless/pointless:
Bath support - can be useful I am told, but DS always hated the big bath anyway and the baby bath was a pain to use, so he went in with his Dad, I designated this as "his" job since I was breastfeeding, which was the best idea I ever had I think - he got one on one skin to skin bonding time and I got a free half hour to an hour in the evenings

Nappy wrapper/nappy bin. A normal bin (pref. with a lid) lined with a supermarket carrier bag is fine. You don't want to have too many used nappies hanging around, because they stink, even the wee ones.

Snowsuit/padded coat - you can't use them in car seats because it's unsafe (the wadding can compress in an accident and make the straps too slack) and the baby always hates being stuffed in and out of them and they can't move when in one. Also you can't remove it quickly if e.g. going between heated shops and a cold street. Just use blankets until they get big enough to kick them off, and then get a cosytoes thing for the buggy.

Anything is fine to buy second hand except the car seat, cot mattress, and bottles. Some breastpumps are OK second hand - check if all the parts which come into contact with milk can be sterilised or not.

BettyButterknife · 10/06/2010 21:50

You can use pillowcases instead of sheets for the moses basket - saves a bit of cash.

Diamondback · 11/06/2010 07:41

This is all brilliant stuff - thanks ladies! DH is definitely in charge of the First Aid Kit - he loves that stuff - and bathtime now.

All this reminds me - my cousins in Ireland have all been buying each other a thing called the 'Diaper Genie', which must be the least environmentally friendly thing ever as it's basically an electrical gadget that shrink wraps disposable nappies, sealing in the smells. Anyone come across these?

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Elsa123 · 11/06/2010 09:02

I've just written my list out thank you so much all of you for taking the time to post.

I'd also added bin for nappies thats anti smell and anti-dog!!

vmcd28 · 11/06/2010 09:28

Re nappy bins, we bought one and used it for a week then chucked it. It was too much of a faff and stank. The previous idea was good- have a small cheap bin with a lid for nappies, it'll do the job.
Never heard f diaper genie. Is it wrong that I think it sounds great?!

emmyloo2 · 11/06/2010 10:01

Thanks guys, I am going to write my list.

Just in terms of sleep suits and vests - if the baby is born in winter - do you put it in a vest then a sleep suit over it? Or just the sleep suit? And to make it warmer - do you just add cardigans over the sleep suits??

God it's all very confusing.....

Also - would people recommend those moulded bath inserts - I have seen them at John Lewis and Mamas and Papas - they are made from hard plastic and I guess you just put them in the bath.

Thanks

BertieBotts · 11/06/2010 12:58

Yes use a vest underneath any other clothes, firstly to protect against seams etc but also for extra warmth. Babies should wear one extra layer to what you have on, so if you have a long sleeved to and a cardigan, then they should have a sleepsuit, vest and cardigan. If they are still cold you would probably just wrap them in blankets.

blondemumma · 11/06/2010 13:55

No need to put too many layers on baby though! My nephew's grandma had him wrapped in countless layers in the winter, even indoors, no wonder he was grumpy at times . Long sleeved/legged sleepsuits are great for day and night, a vest and/or cardi if really chilly.

New grobags come with details of what to wear with them at night and what temp to have the room. We bought the Tomy baby monitor that displays the temperature and are still using it 3 years on - very handy.

clarabellarocks · 11/06/2010 14:17

Think it's all been covered but I would second the bumbo for later - it's amazing!!! As soon as your baby can sit up you sit them in it. My daughter loved it and I'd sit her on it next to me on my dressing table (not meant to use on work tops etc but I was right next to her) and she loved it. The same when I was cooking I put her next to me on the work top whilst I chopped and gave her a wooden spoon to bash about.

What I would say is yes the shops are open even when you've had your baby but trust me, the last thing you'll want to do is wander around mothercare with a newborn when you're sleep deprived - you never think straight! So be prepared before.

Defo borrow moses basket if you can. My DD was 9lb 9oz and only fit in in comfortably for 4 weeks before she was in her cot.

Diamondback · 11/06/2010 15:33

Bumbo?

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munchkinland · 11/06/2010 15:54

I had a moulded bath seat for DS1 and loved it - she also had bath with her dad or me but for those times where she just needed a quick wash, the bath support was great I would recommend - although if saving money get one second hand.....

MumNWLondon · 11/06/2010 16:10

Only things I wouldn't use 2nd hand unless from close friend/family would be car seat or cot mattress (if porous), and bottle teats/dummies. No rush for breast pump though...

Stuff to borrow are the things you only use for the first 3 months eg moses basket/crib/baby bath/sheets for moses basket/crib etc.

re: clothes, I'd just buy some vests and babygros to start with as they puke/wee and poo so much at the start easiest just to have easy clothes plus they grow quickly and you'll get presents. Generally the 0-3 clothes are a bit big until they hit 9lbs so mine have all worn vests and babygros only for first 4 weeks.

Otherwise it depends on how much space you have - I like the bouncy chair (it doesn't do anything flash) but if I had less space/money can see its not essential.

Baby monitor only needed in big house, no need in normal sized 3 bed semi. No need for bath insert just put baby in big bath and fill with 2 inches of water.

If it doubt don't buy you can always buy later.

re: bumbo, the women who I did baby massage with said they are dreadful for the babies posture and should be avoided, same with those things that baby is suspensed from door frame.

PaulineCampbellJones · 11/06/2010 16:32

Tommee tippee do a version of the diaper genie called Sangenic. Mothercare, boots, asda do them. They are fab!
Would say the best thing I had for my baby born in December was a fleece snowsuit. So easy and no need for fiddly mittens or loads of bulky clothes.

DinahRod · 11/06/2010 16:33

Waste of money:

Anything that stores nappies, either used/unused

cot top changer or baby changing unit - as soon as they start to roll you won't want to use it - use the floor instead with a changing mat

baby bottle warmer

personally, baby monitor - parental bat ears are highly attuned

LuluF · 11/06/2010 17:36

Don't bother with one of those rigid plastic bath seats/supports that sticks to the bath with suckers (do you know what I mean?). When baby is small they sort of slump down and when they are bigger they don't want to sit at that angle. And boy or girl, you can't wash their 'nether regions' because they're sitting on them.

Definitely d buy bouncy chair and some sort of mobile to go over the cot (we had a great one that was from mothercare and was remote control and played Beethoven, Bach and Mozart) for when you put them down for a nap - really comes into its own when baby is 3 or 4 months and beginning to show signs of a routine.

LittleMissSnowShine · 12/06/2010 09:49

Right, going to start into some serious bouncy chair research ;)

Thanks for bath seat tip as well!! saw very cute teddy bear shaped sponge bath support for newborns for about £5 in local baby shop, thought might try that out cos i know i'll be really nervous about dropping baby otherwise :-/

Got sangenic in tesco couple of weeks ago and cartridges - half price, bargain! thought might be v good for night time nappy changes...

ahhh....less than 9 weeks to go now!!!

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