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early ultrasound scans

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Hest · 23/05/2010 23:45

Hi everyone, i'm about 8 weeks pregnant with my second child. I had a vaginal scan a couple of weeks ago, they could only see the yolk sac and gestational sac. having another scan in a couple of weeks to see if the fetus is there. Can't help but be extremely nervous, even though they told me its probably just to early to see a baby yet. Has anyone else experienced this? what was the outcome? xxx

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KFW · 01/06/2010 15:31

MsJL you poor thing. Dildocam is the most horrid thing anyway, but when you are feeling ultra nervous and weepy it just adds to it all.

Still... I like the sound of what i am hearing: "significant growth" has to be good, no? Keep your chin up and I am willing Tuesday on for you. I know it seems like an age away, but it will come.

Hest I do hope that all is good with you.

mattsmama · 01/06/2010 15:36

I'm in a very similar position. I had scan at 6 weeks due to suspected ectopic. This scan showed a gestational sac only. Then another scan 2 days later. During this second scan the sonographer said she THOUGHT she could see the beginning of the yolk sac and that we needed to wait and give it "growing time". In three days my betahcg had risen from 11,787 to 15,900 and the doctor said with these hormone levels you should be able to see more on a scan than what we were seeing. However I also have a tilted uterus which makes it more difficult to see apparently.

I am now waiting for a further scan due on Thursday 3rd June which is two weeks later and from date of last period will make me 8 weeks and one day. God these past few weeks have been AWFUL!! I am trying to be positive but then again not too positve??! I have a lovely little boy but prior to this I had a miscarriage which was a horrendous experience. I hope we all get the results we are hoping for and its great to get things "off our chests" on here.

lauraloo09 · 01/06/2010 15:38

Hi all here's my experience of early scans

I went for an early scan as DH and I tried for 2 years and I was on Clomid so they wanted to track pregnancy from early on. My first scan (at 6 weeks) showed nothing apart from an empty sac and I was told it was possible the pregnancy was not continuing and I had to go back for scans every week until they saw a change, all the other scans showed as a significant growth but nothing major. I went back for a scan at what we thought was 9 weeks absolutely dreading the outcome to find a health heartbeat and everything was looking fine, but sac measured at 7 weeks so in my case the original scan was done too early and I wasnt as far on as we thought. My 'empty sac' progressed and my baby girl turns 1 in 3 weeks so I have everything crossed for you all and I'm sure you will all be fine...sending you love and hugs xx

MsJL · 02/06/2010 13:26

lauraloo - thank you for sharing your story. I am so thrilled that you had a happy outcome. May I ask if you were encouraged to have an ERPC at 7 or 8 weeks when your scan wasn't showing more than the sac? Were you just tough about waiting it out? I have been told that I will have to make a decision next week if no fetal pole is seen.

mattsmama I wish you all the very best for tomorrow.

KFW - I so appreciate all your support. Having both known the trauma of recurrent miscarriages over the last couple of years you are my 'example' that things can change. I really wish you much healthiness and happiness.

mattsmama · 02/06/2010 14:31

Thank you MsJL I will be sooooooooo nervous when I go for that scan tomorrow. I am trying to remain positive and keep busy but I can't think of much else at the moment!

I have read so much on the internet about miscarriages and blighted ovums (too much knowledge is not a good thing sometimes!)but what I have learned is that a LOT of women have been recommended to have ERPC or D&C and refused and then a couple of weeks later (as late as 10 weeks on one case I read about)a healthy little bean is seen with heartbeat and all. After my miscarriage in 2006 (in which the hospital concerned dealt with me so BADLY - but that is another story) I always said to myself that if god forbid I had to go through that again I would have surgical removal rather than wait to miscarry naturally. However after what I have been reading recently I would definitely wait until at least 10/11 weeks before even contemplating surgical intervention. I don't want to give anybody false hope but having read so much about misdiagnosed miscarriages I think every woman should be as informed as possible.

I will be thinking about you next Tuesday and I sincerely wish you all the very best and that you get best possible outcome xx

MsJL · 02/06/2010 17:03

mattsmama am sending you much love tomorrow. Is your DH going with you?

let us know how you get on. x

lauraloo09 · 02/06/2010 21:33

msjl sorry just saw your message there. The midwife didn't recommend anything, they said they would continue to scan me on a weekly basis until they were certain that pregnancy wasn't continuing, thank goodness they did this as I have heard other places would have recommended an ERPC.

mattsmama sending you all the love and hugs for tomorrow and sending postive thoughts i'm hoping and praying you will be ok someone going with you?? xx

mattsmama · 02/06/2010 22:43

msjl and lauraloo09

Hi there - thank you so much for your kind thoughts and wishes - yes DH is going with me. Will let you know how I get on. My scan is late afternoon. xx

mattsmama · 03/06/2010 21:35

Hi all - I have posted a response on early scan nerves thread also so I hope I'm not repeating myself! Anyway - I had the scan and it was good news! The sonographer had to do the awful internal scan but said that she could now definitely see the yolk sac and there was a fetal pole which measured 3mm. There was no heartbeat but she said this was completely normal for these measurements and that they don't expect to see a heartbeat in anything less than 5mm. So although it's still early days this scan was a lot more reassuring By my period dates I am 8 weeks and one day - but she measured me at no more than 6 weeks. The retroverted uterus thing seems to make scanning very difficult - I had to have a cushion under my bottom and then make my hands into fists and then put them under my bottom also to lift me higher and even then it was difficult! Anyway I have to another scan in another two weeks - so fingers crossed! xx

lauraloo09 · 03/06/2010 22:21

oh mattsmama been thinking of you all day thank goodness there was some more positive news for you and DH today got everything crossed for you xxx

MsJL · 04/06/2010 10:24

mattsmama YEAH!!!! Good news for you and your DH. I am pleased that you had a positive day yesterday. I am hoping and praying that all will continue happily for you.

I think I have been in denial this week, just plodding on as normal but am now starting to feel anxious about what Tuesday will bring. x

mattsmama · 04/06/2010 22:19

msjl Thank you for your kind wishes. I really was so anxious during the scan and it seemed to take an age for the sonographer to say anything. I couldn't look at her face and was counting the ceiling tiles?!! I will be thinking of you on Tuesday knowing how horribly anxious you will be and I sincerely hope you get the news you want to hear. I'll say a little prayer for you xx

MsJL · 08/06/2010 13:22

Not good news I'm sad to say. Having had my third scan (now 7 wks) they are confident that this pregnancy is not viable. There is no fetal pole so I have been booked in for an ERPC on Thursday.

I cannot believe that I am having a fourth miscarriage.

I wish all of you much health and happiness.

oliviacrumble · 08/06/2010 16:27

MsJL, I'm so sorry for your loss. Really heartbreaking and so unfair.

mattsmama · 08/06/2010 16:41

[msjl] I am so so sorry - I have been thinking about you today. Life seems so cruel and unfair at times and I know that absolutely nothing anyone says at a time like this will make you feel any better.

I just want to give you a big hug. Be strong and take care of yourself. With much love xx

KFW · 09/06/2010 12:33

Oh msjl I am so very sorry. Big, big hugs to you. It will get better and you will get there.

MsJL · 09/06/2010 13:00

olivia, mattsmama and KFW thank you so much for your kind words and support.

At the moment I am finding it hard to believe things could ever change which is heartbreaking.

I wish you all the very best. KFW you give me hope. Mattsmama I continue to send you positive vibes.

mattsmama · 17/06/2010 15:52

Hi all - just to update you. Went for a private scan today as we were still waiting for nhs to send us a scan date and it was now 2 weeks since last scan. Unfortunately it wasn't good news today . Me and DH are devastated. We were told that today there was only a gestational sac and that the sonographer couldn't see anything else. He said he could see pulsations but he thought that they were my pulsations. This is our one glimmer of hope and we have to have another scan next week. Also the guy who did this scan didn't seem to move the vaginal probe around much and didn't raise me up as in previous scans (I have a retroverted uterus). However I'm not holding out much hope now as obviously the fetal pole albeit very small was seen at the last scan you would expect there to be some sort of growth after such a time. I feel numb at the moment - but will let you know how I get on. Love to you all xx

KFW · 17/06/2010 17:10

mattsmama I am so very sorry to hear that today didn't go as planned. I do hope that the glimmer of hope works out for you. xx

mattsmama · 18/06/2010 14:50

kfw - thank you. The stress of waiting is as bad as anything and the more I think about it the more I am annoyed with the nhs hospital for not keeping on top of appointments with scans etc. They know the outcome of the private scan which is obviously not very positive and we know what the likely outcome will be yet they are still making me wait a week saying no scan appointments are available. It is cruel - my head and emotions are all over the place!

I hope all is well with you and I will post on here when I have a final result. xx

Ladyopheliastar · 18/06/2010 22:07

I will watch and wait too. I really feel for you.

mattsmama · 23/06/2010 12:59

Hi all - just to update you. Sorry if this is a bit long winded but this whole saga has been long, confusing and stressful to say the least! We went for our scan yesterday Tuesday 22 June and were told that sadly it was a missed miscarriage. The gestational sac had grown but it looked like the fetal pole was the same size and there was no heartbeat. Having read so much about misdiagnosed miscarriage (clutching at straws I know!) I asked if they were sure and said yes. The doctor explained all the options available to me, which are to either miscarry naturally, medical management (which involves taking tablets) or ERPC. Me and DH devastated obviously and numb and confused. We have been on such a rollercoster of emotions up and down, highs and lows. They said I didn't have to make immediate decision - go home and think and telephone them.

After much debate on which route to go down I settled for ERPC - miscarried naturally 6 years ago with a 12 week pregnancy and the experience was dreadful. Extremely painful physically and emotionally.

I telephoned the hospital to let them know and would you believe it - the doctor now said the Consultant in charge has gone over my case notes and over ridden all decisions. Because there has been growth in the gestational sac and possible growth in the fetal pole he wants me to wait a further 10 days for a further scan and have my beta HCG levels taken every 48 hours. We are just so exhausted with all of this. I just don't know what to think any more. My next scan is 2nd July and to be honest I'm not holding out much hope. I am (by my period dates) 11 weeks pregnant today but they are saying my scan results are showing a very early pregnancy of 6 weeks?!! I am relieved that I will be having another scan to double check and I know that my little fetal pole is being given the best possible chance but this is all so confusing to me as well. Has anyone ever heard of a situation like this with a positive outcome?

Wishing you all the best as always xx

KFW · 24/06/2010 11:31

mattsmama

You have really been through the mill! I dont have any words of advice i am afraid, or personal experience of this exact situation, but I do really feel for you having to wait for yet another scan. I do hope it works out. At least you know that they are double-triple checking before making a decision.

By the way, I hear you with the ERPC over natural MC thing. I had one natural one which was horrific and as horribly traumatic as the ERPCs were, I felt like at least I knew when they were over.

Sending lots of positive thoughts.

mattsmama · 24/06/2010 21:14

Thank you KFW - it has really helped me on here and having support like yours really does make a difference. Thank you. x

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