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Talk about every stage of pregnancy, from early symptoms to preparing for birth.

Severe abdominal pain with back pain :(

18 replies

jwiggles · 21/04/2010 11:44

Last night I was sitting on the sofa after dinner and got a terrible shooting pain in my right breast, I wasnt feeling great so I went to bed...about 2am this morning I had the most severe abdominal pain (more upper) I have ever had - not cramping type pain, or in waves, but a constant pain that whichever way I layed, didnt help. I took some paracetomol, and it finally eased off about 5am..I was in agony, and also felt v sick.

Today I feel awful, really sore tummy/adbo, back pain and sick ...anyone else had something similar, or know what it could be?

I have called my Midwife, and am waiting to hear back from her, but nothing as yet.
I am 10+2.

Thanks all

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sunshiney · 21/04/2010 13:07

Hi. I'm afraid I can't offer any advice, but how are you feeling now?

Any call back from the mw?

jwiggles · 21/04/2010 13:13

Hi Sunshiney - I feel a little better just very sore and sick still.

My MW called and she said to keep an eye on it, and if I get any bleeding or it gets worse to call the GP and they may put me in for an early scan...
She said it may have been really bad wind?!
Hmmm not sure...

I really hope it doesnt come back though!

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deleting · 21/04/2010 13:18

There's a lot of stomach bugs going round, had one a couple of weeks ago, so is prob that if it's high up pain. HOpe you feel better soon.

sunshiney · 21/04/2010 13:19

Glad to hear you're a bit better! So the severe pain has gone? Not surprised it's left you feeling delicate though.

Are you able to rest today, or have you had to be at work or otherwise busy.

Sara79 · 21/04/2010 13:55

hi jwiggles
I just wanted to let you know that i've been getting terrible abdominal pain too. i'm 11 weeks pregnant. It was so bad a few weeks ago that i have fainted! I ended up having an early scan, but everything is fine. I think that it's a touch of IBS, and so yes in my case i think that it was really bad wind!! Since being pregnant my bowels have been all over the place, which i understand is quite normal, so it wouldn't surprise me if that's why you were in pain too. and I feel really sick too everytime my stomach is bad.
I'm glad that you feel better today.

butterscotch · 21/04/2010 14:05

Hiya go back to doc or mw and ask about gallstones tgey can fo a scan (adominal) to check this! It sounds like the symptoms I had although I don't have it they thought it could be especially if happening after food!!

jwiggles · 21/04/2010 14:30

Butterscotch - My MW did ask me if I had a history of gallstones but I dont, so she said it may not be that then...

Sara79 - im glad you are ok - I could have fainted last night it was so bad too, so im just hoping its really bad wind, and not the bug, deleting as I had viral gastroenteritis 5 weeks ago, for 3 weeks and that was horrendous!

Thanks for all your good wishes and yes I feel a little better, now the real bad pain has gone, just a dull sore pain now.
Unfortunately im at work, but have just sat still most of the day at my desk as feeling to crap to go wandering around the office.

Cant wait to tell them all in a couple of weeks after my scan (fingers crossed all ok) that im actually pregnant as I have been acting a bit weird recently and my tummy has balooned so im sure they know something anyway!

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2ndDestiny · 21/04/2010 14:47

What are you doing at work??! you poor thing. I sometimes have really, really painful wind in pregnancy with upper abdominal pain that can last for hours. At 10.5 weeks the baby is really low down and far away from there. It also sounds like you might have a bit of a bug. Hope you continue to feel better but if not do see the dr.

jwiggles · 21/04/2010 16:06

Id love to be at home resting but im in event management with a rather nasty boss and have 2 global events in the next 4 weeks so I have to be here really... After the end of May im going to start taking it a bit easier! Thanks everyone ...

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DillyDora · 21/04/2010 16:48

jwiggles Poor you, are you feeling any better? I have a friend whose gallstone problems only began in pregnancy so keep an eye on that and keep mentioning it. If it might be wind type symptoms, have you had some peppermint tea? It really does help.
x

DomesticG0ddess · 21/04/2010 18:27

Definitely sounds like gallstones. I first had an attack like that when I was 39 weeks, and of course went to labour ward. Unfortunately was only seen by midwives, and a subsequent doctor failed to diagnose it, so I had attacks for 2 years before I moved house and went to another doctor, who said gallstones straightaway.

So please bear that in mind when you see someone. The hormones during pregnancy make the gallbladder sluggish which is why women get them more than men (the usual type is apparently Fat, Forty and Fertile, although I am only one of these!). Nausea and vomiting are also symptoms. Definitely mention it to your doctor as before I finally had my gallbladder removed I ended up in hospital due to pancreatitis, which is when a dislodged stone irritates the pancreas, which can be really serious. I think they can do the op in the second trimester if attacks worsen and you can not manage them through diet.

Anyway, hope it is not that, just a bug, but thought I would let you know my experience, because it is more common in pregnancy than people realize.

DomesticG0ddess · 21/04/2010 18:30

Sorry, did not see that your midwife asked about a history of gallstones - a history of them does not really matter as they can start at anytime, and often during pregnancy - ie. more than 50% of people have gallstones but the stones just sit there doing nothing.

jwiggles · 22/04/2010 09:44

Thanks for the gallstones advice DomesticGoddess I didnt have any more pains last night so im hoping it was just a really bad case of indigestion/wind... but i'll definately mention it to the midwife when I see her in a couple of weeks.

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DomesticG0ddess · 22/04/2010 17:51

Hopefully it won't happen!

jwiggles · 22/04/2010 20:11

Well, just got back from a private scan due to all this extra pain, and you were right.... Gallstones! Something else to deal with now, Grrr oh well at least bump was all good, and very lively kicking and waving! So... Any advice for gallstones, treatment, things that can help them? Thanks all

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DomesticG0ddess · 22/04/2010 21:27

Gosh, sorry to hear that. I know loads about gallstones and could bore anyone with them because after living with attacks for 2 years, when I was diagnosed I then spent another year trying to control them - I didn't want to rush into having the op if I could avoid it.

My main triggers were: any high-fat dairy, so icecream, cheese absolute no no's, as were high-fat meats such as hams and sausages (don't know about other meats as don't eat them, chicken fine). Attacks would coincide with me eating something like this around the middle of the month, ie. ovulation, sounds weird, but I think it was the change in hormones around this time. I read Andreas Moritz's book (see Amazon) and tried several liver and gallbladder flushes, with varying levels of success, but ultimately I couldn't completely commit to this, it was unpleasant, time consuming, and I always felt there was a risk of a stone getting trapped during a flush. I managed to control it for a few months, but ate some mozzarella which I thought would be OK, and that triggered a 4 day attack which led to pancreatitis. I was fine, but I realized I had to have the op, and 2 weeks later I had my gallbladder removed privately, through keyhole surgery. Op was fine, was running two weeks later.

It is not a magic cure though - now that I am pg (and only had the op in Nov and this is my second pg since Dec) I can't eat everything I want, and have had some awful cramps the last couple of weeks after eating things which would previously lead to an attack. The cramps are obviously not in my gallbladder, but in my intestines, I think because the bile constantly drips into your intestines if you don't have a gallbladder, so if you eat a fatty meal you don't have a store of bile (which digests the fats). Perhaps if I wasn't pg it would be better. So basically I am sticking to my same diet as before the op, but the relief of not having attacks is just brilliant.

I can't really advise you whether to have the op, because your attacks could be very very sporadic. There are a lot of stories out on internet about people who have chronic pain or diaorreah after the op, and I think I read too many stories. On the other hand I think you need to know what the consequences might be. Alot of people though can eat exactly what they want afterwards, and have no tummy problems.

If you want to ask me anything about op, then feel free, but it was a simple op. I was scared, but you need to find yourself a very good surgeon - mine corrects other peoples mistakes so I felt very confident with him. I reacted badly to the general - nausea, etc, infact that was the worse bit, but that is just me. I guess you have to decide whether or not to do it when you are pg, or risk attacks after. The first attack I had after birth, about a couple of months after, my husband had to come home from work, DS was confined to cot, I was literally on the floor. Have had some tricky times dealing with baby, then toddler whilst having attacks and I would not recommend that to anyone! Is it your first child?

Glad your pregnancy is going well though, you must be relieved. Feel free to ask me stuff, take care.

jwiggles · 23/04/2010 09:38

Thanks Domestic Goddess, I think im going to try and control it with diet and eat less high fat foods to start with... and see what the GP says after I see him next week.

It sounds like you had a nightmare with yours before you eventually had the op, and even afterwards it hasnt been plain sailing either.

How do you feel now, and how far are you into your pregnancy?
Do you feel its getting better or worse with time?
And what is a gallbladder flush??

Thanks for your advice
Take care
Jo

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DomesticG0ddess · 26/04/2010 18:21

Hi there
I am 14 and half weeks, and at the moment I would say it has been getting worse, but I think that is because I am pg. At Xmas I did eat mainly what I wanted - cheese, cream, hams etc and didn't have any problems. Was ill again last Thursday, after eating fish and chips (another thing I avoided when I had a gallbladder).

Gallbladder flush - is basically a detox, followed by a procedure involving olive oil, lemon juice, epsom salts.... you drink them and then you pass stones from your liver and gallbladder. If you read the book by the guy I mentioned, it is really interesting and I may do it again one day, but I was paranoid about dislodging stones and them getting stuck, etc and I don't think you would want to do it when you were pregnant. People thought I was crazy, but I really didn't want the op! DH did it with me a couple of times, but it didn't work us both doing it with DS to look after.

I think you can manage it with diet if you are really really strict. But I think over time your body becomes even more sensitive to the things you omitted, meaning that the smallest amount can then trigger an attack - at least I think this is what I found. Have you seen your GP? His response will be to get it removed, ie. not at 'if', but 'when'.

It's hard to know what to recommend, but if you asked, I think my answer would be to have your gallbladder removed as soon as you can at a time that is convenient re: baby/pregnancy, etc, unless you have a lot of time/energy to devote to the alternatives and are prepared to cope with recurrent attacks.

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