I know I shouldn't say this but I just hate being pregnant.

[Bumperliouzzzzzz]

I hate it. I loathe every minute of this. I'm sure it is very wrong of me to say so but the experience makes me miserable and unable to cope with normal things.

I spent 3 months feeling sick all day and night. I haven't slept properly for one single night in over 3 months, despite the doctor giving me sleeping tablets.

I have done something to my nexk which is giving me a constant headache meaning I am having to mainline paracetamol. Have spent 40 quid on the osteopath and spent over a week trying to get through to the NHS physio department. Until then I will wake every night with a headache.

I am so tired I have been mean to 2.7 yo DD this morning as I was so pissed on that I had to get up at 7.15 with her after barely sleeping all night. My poor DH needed a lie-in after 3 months of having to do everything for me.

Although my sickness has gone I'm still really funny about food, and DH has to make my lunch every morning. I'm so tired I can barely be bothered to shower so am doing so about once every 3-4 days. I look like shit. I hate how pregnancy makes me feel, I hate how it turns me into a pathetic whinging idiot. I hate people thinking I'm not coping very well with it. I hate that I have had to spend money I can't afford on new clothes, which all look shit anyway.

Sometimes I am so tired after exerting myself I just can't move and lie down on the floor in the bedroom or bathroom.

We are going to have to move in the next 2-3 months as the landlord has put our flat on the market, but I won't be much help as I will be 6 months pg.

I'm not even coping with DD at the moment, how the fuck am I going to cope with a toddler and a baby. I am struggling with work as I am so tired I can barely concentrate, but have to put up with people telling me 'I read it was a myth woman have to eat for two when they are pregnant' or 'my wife was playing badminton right up until she gave birth'.

I don't even like it when the baby moves. It makes me feel sick. I know these are all really awful things to say. I feel I am failing as a mother because I don't enjoy this and am not very happy. I'm sure this isn't normal. I'm only 16 weeks. I'm not sure how I am going to manage for another 5 months. I just want to cry when I think about it.

I'm just regurgitating the basics of what 2 GPs and a pharmacist told me 2 years ago. I think my DH might have access to the BNF so will get him to have a look at what the entry for piriton says exactly. However piriton is not classed the same as paracetamol (i.e no problems at all) there could be risks to the baby.

It's a a weighing up risks vs benefits thing, like with many drugs in pregnancy, because of the ethics of medical testing on pregnant women there's not a huge amount of data. I wouldn't take it, and wouldn't have been prescribed it, in the first trimester. But it has made life bearable for me on my worst days - it was seriously hard to function, I was sneezing and blowing my nose literally every minute and was having to drink pints of water to stay hydrated. I couldn't breathe through my nose and couldn't smell or taste any food(I feel compelled to justify myself in case you think I'm some gung-ho drug totin' pillhead!)

I don't enjoy pregnancy much either. It's a means to an end. What's fun about nausea, exhaustion, constipation, pain etc, etc? I'm really struggling to cope at work and when I'm at home I have a very 'busy' 2.5 year old to deal with.

I do know people who've had hard pregnancies and still love it. They must be getting a hormone buzz that I have so far missed out on.

DC2 has been moving a lot more than DD and although it is reassuring it makes me feel queasy. I'm only just past the half way mark and counting down until this is over.

I agree about the annoying comments about people still carrying on as normal up to when they pop. I also do not need to be told that I don't need all the extra food I am eating. The books are wrong. I need all the snacks to stop me feeling dizzy and sick.

I am also worried about coping with two but lots of mums have said a toddler and a newborn is easier than being pregnant with a toddler. I hope they are right.

I detest being pregnant - I always wanted at least 4 kids but this (the 3rd) will be it. I am terrified that I might get pg again - so much so I plan to get sterilised and have a mirena...

I have dreadful heartburn now and back ache (34 weeks) was visiting my brother and SIL yesterday and had to leave early as in so much pain. Sickness wise this has been a good week - I only vomited twice. Daily vomited started at 6 weeks and lasted until about 26 - dehydration, vomiting up blood - etc etc

It totally sucks and then I feel like such a non-coper as all these cows seem to bloom beautifully and also feel guilty because I'm lucky I can get pg without all the trauma other people face

Thank f88k it'll be over in the next 6-8 weeks (oh yes I generally go about 2 weeks over also)

Oh, I am practically weeping with relief at these posts. Just so glad it is not just me, and I am not abnormal.

It's interesting about separating the feelings about being pg with having a baby as first time round I was generally a bit nuts. Pregnancy almost identical but while the baby was planned I seemed to be completely not ready for it all and was just ambivalent about the whole thing. This time I know I definitely don't feel like that, and that's a relief.

I had early bleeding this time, and also was sent to hospital at 15 weeks as the MW couldn't find a heartbeat and that was all pretty distressing. But the first time round I actually thought at one point it wouldn't be so bad if I miscarried. Obviously that is really awful, and I know better now I have DD. But this time I just want to hibernate.

I have already had a week off work when my insomnia reached breaking point and I wasn't functioning. But then I start to feel really bad like I am being a typical pregnant woman, and not pulling my weight because I feel so shit, and I should just get on with it. I don't want people at work (my boss being the one who made the helpful comment about eating for two) to think I am just being pathetic.

I'm sorry to moan. I'm lucky that I have not actually been sick at all, but just felt like I had a 24 hour hangover for 3 months. Being so tired just takes away my coping abilities.

I am a bit scared about the whole newborn stage too as I'm not really that fussed about newborns either. I'm glad to see it's not just me breaking that taboo either!

Never again, that's all I can say. I only did it again as people said pregnancies can be different. Now I know mine aren't I will be sticking at two.

Btw Emma, I've been taking sleeping tablets even though the dr was v reluctant to give them to me. I just needed something. Not that they are a huge help.

Hope everyone else feels better soon. Thanks for the reassurance.

Another one here who doesn't like the newborn bit. I can cope when they're 6 months + but I just prefer children to babies IYSWIM.

A wiser MNer than me said although pregnancy isn't an illness, if you had half the symptoms and weren't pregnant you'd think you were dying. Says it all, really.

Oh, and I find it's either men or women who haven't had kids who are the worst for making comments like the eating for two one. Sometimes I wish they could be pregnant just for a day to see what it's like!

Hi Bumper - I think I was on your antenatal thread with your DD last time...

I am a miserable pregnant woman. I loathed it - both times.
Permanent puking, exhaustion beyond anything ever felt before. Being told not to exercise due to complications - not that I had the bloody energy half the time! I could go on and on...

But... Good news! Ihave two children 2 years apart and although I was a crap mum to DD during my pregnancy because I was so tired (falling asleep on sofa while she watched cbeebies endlessly As soon as DS was out, I was back to being my usual energetic, fun-filled Mummy self.

I'm sure you will be too. Once your baby is born you will feel so much better and have so much more energy. Your Dd is only little too - she won't remember that you were a bit boring or grumpy for a few months. Give yourself a break - you are working, caring for a toddler and lugging a baby around inside you! Just recite to yourself - "it's not forever"

Hiya, I was prescribed piriton last summer while pregnant because I couldn't sleep at night. We have a park quite close to our house, and the seagulls like to gather there at dawn and squawk for an hour or two. Which can be quite early in summer in Scotland. I usually only took half a tablet just before bedtime - found that helped me sleep better than a full tablet which made me feel drugged.

I don't have hayfever by the way, I was just taking it for the side effect of sleepiness.

I know it does get really hard at times but look at the miscarriage sites and that should make you realise how lucky you are to be a- pregnant and b- able to keep pregnancy.
Don't mean to sound like a 'do gooder preacher' but as someone who has suffered two losses i know how hard it is. Everyone has the right to their opinions and i'm not trying to dismiss what everyone is saying, i hhave also had lots of sickness and still get it now and again at 24 weeks as well as constant back ache and colds but for me i'm just so happy to be pregnant.

Op - having two children is a walk in the park compared to being pregnant with a toddler

even the boring newborn bit is fun when you are busy with an older child - you are left with almost exactly the right amount of time to devote your full attention to the baby i.e. hardly any

Bumper, I am the same number of weeks as you and just wanted to send you a tired thumbs up. I think for many people (me included) pregnancy itself pretty much sucks. My DD will be two months short of 2 when this (unplanned) one arrives, I am having a CS and worried how I will manage with a newborn, a wound and a toddler. I feel much sicker this time around though I haven't had the problems you've had (which sound hardcore) we are also moving house in the summer and I could really do without it. I know I will adore my new DC and I am hugely grateful for another child and all that but fact is, I find pregnancy crummy.

ohhhh I feel JUST like you Bumper. You are not alone. I HATE HATE HATE being pregnant - morning sickness, the size thing, the indigestion, the pregnancy "madness" (when everything worries me and I turn into anxiety woman). This second pregnancy has been so hard and I cannot say I have enjoyed a minute. Honestly. It is so bloody uncomfortable. I am soooo short tempered with my DD (3.5) as well.

And not sure if it is a taboo, but I find newborns hard work! the not sleeping, the worrying, it all seems to get better at 6 months. Then you realise why you did it all.

I bet you through the centuries, a lot (most?) women have felt some way the same. Do not feel guilty. The worst thing I have done is fallen asleep on the sofa for 2 hours and left my DD watching a DVD and having to get her own drinks and snacks. SOOOOOOOOOO tired.

And I am a little pregnancy ball of hatred as well. So illogical and cross with everyone! Am 35 weeks. Roll on labour!

bumper, another one here who prefers children to newborns. I like newborns but once they start interacting with you etc, that's when it becomes all worthwhile to me! I have some lovely conversations now with ds1 (4). Hope you're feeling better now, I think knowing you're not alone helps a little.

[quick hijack] Hi LadyT, congratulations , I'll try & find my way to the pn thread & say hello to you all!

Sorry for the hijack, as you were

Thanks Tilly, yes, do come back and say hello. There are actually four of us December ladies who are up the duff now. Hope you and the boys are well, and love to Oli if you see her. [Sorry Bumper]

I love you guys....

I hate being pregnant.

My DD1 aged 11 told me yesterday that she misses me Despite me being home all the time.. I'm no fun and I sleep all the time.

A month to go... the longest month ever!

I was delighted to be pregnant both times but hated it the first time! I was very sick for the first trimester and never regained my appetite while pregnant and spent the last trimester with almost constant heartburn. I didn't feel too bad in the middle trimester but I really hated that everyone feels they have the right to comment on your size and shape as soon as your bump shows. I did however enjoy the baby movement so slightly better than you. None of this meant I didn't love my baby when he was born and I'm sure you will too.

With this pregnancy I have been sick for longer but not as totally crippling as last time. I have also had 2 colds which have made me feel awful, I also hurt my neck which made me very grumpy while it lasted and my son has had a variety of illnesses too. I am working as a childminder this time around so will only have 2 weeks off which I'm terrified of and does get me down sometimes. This also means I'm working from 7.30-6 most days which is exhausting.

I am also now a huge fan of newborns, which many people find hard to understand! My son was not an easy baby and I'm really worried how I will cope if this one's the same while still looking after all the children I childmind and my son.

My husband doesn't want anymore children so I know this is the last time I will be pregnant so I am really trying to enjoy this one as I don't want to look back and think this was a good time and I wasted it. I find that I am concentrating on my son as he will soon not have me to himself at all and not thinking too much about the pregnancy.

I hope your move goes well and you feel slightly better for the rest of your pregnancy, it won't last forever and it will be worth it in the end.

And there was me thinking I was the only one. My dd is now 8.11 and has asked if she can have a sister. Not on your nelly has been my reply. I was sick every day, often more than once, until the day I delivered her. I had a suture in my cervix which meant I couldn't swim and we were living in the middle east which was torture. I had gestational diabetes and a really awful time. I loathed her moving, although the one day she didn't I was panic stricken. The happiest day of my pregancy was the day she was delivered. It really didn't matter that the anaesthetist put the PCA in the wrong place and I didn't have any pain relief after my caesarian. She was out and there was no more nausea.
Chin up OP.

I want to say that I also could be one of those moaning about the pregnancy bit.. And I am only 10+3 pregnant with the DC2, while DS1 is 2yo. I don?t feel nauseous or anything. But I feel tired all the time. Even climbing up the stairs at home every time makes me feel almost fainting. At work I go to have a nap in a toilet about twice a day ? yes, yes, I go toilet and sit there and have a 10 min nap which helps me pull through the day. Cos there is nowhere else to have a nap at work. I am dreading to tell to my colleagues that I am preggie again because less than 2 years ago I already was on maternity leave.. I feel guilty that they will have to look for mat cover again and I am inconveniencing them again. I am dreading because I will have to work until almost due date because we need to save as much money as possible to pull through financially later. So, despite of tiring pg+work+toddler situation, there will be no other option just to manage it somehow? But then I have decided, two children will be enough. I can?t see myself going through it again.

37 weeks today so 3 to go at the most.

I have begged for an induction this time as the thought of going overdue again well it's not worth thinking about.

I miss being me so much, being able to walk, pick up the DDS, run about and play with them.

I adore newborns I think it's because I am just so glad not to be pregnant anymore.

I also hate being pregnant, it's my first one and whoever told me that pregnancy was suppose to be a magical time was a first rate liar!!

I don't sleep, I've gone off my food, I have nausea all the time and it's really knocked me for six. I'm now starting to get heartburn and dizziness now. Awesome!

I used to be such a positive upbeat person, since I got pregnant I've ended up with panic attacks and all manner of wibbliness. It's so bad that I've had to take time off work to sort myself out. I feel like I've been taken over by a being from another planet.

So no you're not on your own and I for one can't see myself doing this again for a long time!

Me too! The first pregnancy was a walk in the park compared to the second and this one. Am 37 weeks so am hoping it will be soon.
I am so tired, fed up of having even less patience than I did and trying to pick things up of the floor is a nightmare. I just leave it to the end of the day and feel bad that the house is so messy all day.

I hope that once this one arrives I will feel happier, in less pain and generally more mobile.
I have neglected my dh and dc so much I feel dreasful.

No more children for us!

Me too! This is my first and in theory, v. excited, but in practice this is the first summer my DH and I can afford to actually go away for a couple of weekends and go to a festival - but I'm just feeling so sick! Grateful not to actually be feeling sick but I now HATE food and just don't know what to eat as everything seems to make me nauseous. Roll on one year old. Think will adopt if decide to have second child...

In solidarity. xxx

Thanks for all the support everyone.

I was in a bit of a state last night. I tried to do my pregnancy relaxation CD (which I loathe doing) and after trying not to grit my teeth as it went on about how well my body is functioning and trying to do what it says rather than think about work the next day I eventually got to the end, turned over to go to sleep, adjusted my pillow and knocked over my frigging glass of water on my bedside table!

Stomped in to DH (who was still awake) and he helped mop it up, but ranted about what was the point in doing relaxation CDs only to be up again and stressed out. Am so so fed up. We actually considered adoption after last time, but I was reassured by the fact that pregnancies can be different. This one isn't though, and DH said in all seriousness that if we want any more kids (which we don't) we should adopt.

It just feels like such a thankless task. I wish my DH, and my boss could really understand what it was like. DH is great and so supportive but I worry he thinks I am just milking it. And I really want to say to my boss that I am not coping with work and being so knackered but am so worried about coming across as a malingering whingy harpie. I might go to my Welfare department though and ask them for advice. What I really need is medically reduced hours (I work 8.5 hours a day, my choice but I couldn't pay my bills if I got paid any less). It is an option, but one I am loathe to suggest myself. What I want is for them to say 'you are clearly struggling, why don't we do this'. I am kind of ok on a day to day basis but it just builds up and I start to feel on the edge of sanity!

Am I really abnormal? I hate people to think I am just 'not coping'