hyperemesis in second pregnancy?

[phokoje]

i had terrible hyperemesis with my first pregnancy (was still throwing up on the operating theatre table during my CS!) and i just wondered, has anyone who had hyperemesis with a first pregnancy gone on to have a sick free second one?

Probably not what you want to hear but no. I had hyperemesis in both my pregnancies. However with ds2 I coped a lot better. Partly because I had ds1 to look after, but also cos I'd done it once before and knew I would survive. I was in hospital longer on a drip with ds2 but once I got past 18 weeks was able to function fairly normally as long as I had a couple of naps a day and carried a sick bag round with me.

I to threw up to the end with both, but it was worth it. At least having had it before means you will recognise the symptoms if it starts again and get meds quicker. I felt that really helped the 2nd time round.

Good Luck with your 2nd pregnancy and here's hoping you don't get hyperemesis.

thanks tutu, im not actually pregnant, sorry i should have written my post better. i am actually really nervous at the idea of going through all that again.

and you know, you wrote something really interesting to me, that you dealt with it better second time around because you knew you would survive it. and i just realised that actually, i feel like i dont think i would

Studies show 80% get it again, and in 80% of those (ie 2/3 ish of all give or take) it's worse.

I've stopped at one (I was in hospital a lot too) but still at times really sad about it. Hope you can make a decision you can live with about #2.

thanks notevenamousie, i had googled and seen numbers like that, i suppose on some level i feel as though i failed at being pregnant and whenver the topic comes up with me and DH about having another, i start the whole questioning myself thing again. and torture myself with the success stories of all those who have been strong enough to try for another baby, even knowing they may be that sick again.

phokoje, after I had ds1 I said never again as I really didn't think I could ever cope with feeling that ill again. Over time though I really wanted another baby and for ds1 to have a sibling. DP was more worried than me about me getting hyperemesis again, I hoped I wouldn't, but deep down knew I probably would.

I had points when pregnant with ds2 where I really thought I'd made a mistake. Particularly when I was in hospital being told I may have to take blood thinners as my blood was so thick through being dehydrated that I was at high risk of a DVT, I really did think I was stupid and selfish to try having another baby. But on the whole I felt more positive about my pregnancy with ds2. And after 18 weeks in the most I enjoyed being pregnant which I never did with ds2.

I did keep having to tell myself though that it was just goin to be for another 6 months, 5 months etc. Although when you feel that shit just the thought of it lasting another hour is too much.

I'm sorry you feel too frightened to try for another child. I really did feel that way for a long time but I don't know what happened, but something changed. Please don't beat yourself up, you did not fail at pregnancy, you had a pretty rare condition which IMO most people even doctors do not realise how awful it really is.

Sorry that should have said I didn't enjoy my pregnancy with ds1.

oh man, it really helps to 'talk' to someone who knows what its like! no one i know had morning sickness even, let alone hyperemesis.

my SIL has just had her first, and is all gungho about having her second.

so its sort of brought it all back up for discussion i guess.

DH says he would love another, but he is probably more worried about the hyperemesis than even me! i think he just felt so helpless the first time. no one likes that feeling. is ometimes think it was actually worse for him than for me.

Mine was less bad the second time, probably because I rested properly and got drugs from the beginning, then the third time it was worse and lasted all the way through.

Might be worth looking at here

I am probably not the most encouraging - I long for a baby but just totally don't believe I can do the hyperemesis... but the above site will support you either way

Hi there,
I had it really bad during my first pregnancy and like you was still throwing up day of going into labour!!
Am now 16 weeks pregnant with no 2 and started the pregnancy in the same way, throwing up every day sometimes all day (although dare I say it it didn't seem as bad) Anyway, I am now on day 4 of NOT being sick. Saw the midwife yesterday who said it may well be coming to an end.
I didn't even have 1 day of respite with no 1 so I am very hopeful that things will be different this time.
I went into having another baby knowing that I could face 9months of hell again, but its worth it. Like Tutu100 I find myself thinking its only another 6months and then thats it, never again in my life will I go through it!
I hope your find this a little encouraging!!
Best of luck

I had it badly in both pregnancies. With dc2 I ended up being given ondansetron (sp?) which was like a miracle drug! Although I had to fight tooth and nail to be given it. TBH I'm not sure I could have got through the pregnancy without it

phokoje wanted to give you my (fairly) postive experience.

I had severe hyperemesis during first pg. Hospitalised twice with dehydration, for just over a week each time. (at 7 weeks and then 11 weeks). Signed off sick from work for over 2 months. Even late in the pg I suffered alternately with severe nausea and/or heartburn. I can honestly say I remember if clearly (and dd1 was 6 in January) and it was a traumatic time.

I even vomited 7 times during labour. (partly because they "wouldn't let me" eat.)

I really wanted dc2. I ummed and aahed for a long time. GP was very supportive. Urged me to not leave it too late (I was mid 30s by this point).

Anyway, started trying when dd1 was almost 3 years, v anxious about it. Caught first time which was probably a good things as I may have chickened out.

2nd pregnancy wasn't easy. I did have all day sickness, but not hyperemesis. Some people who have never been through these things might say I managed it better. I think that theory is a bit rubbish (imo) and for me it was just the fact that the pg was not as bad.

Having said that I made a conscious effort to rest and eat (colleagues still remember me scoffing buns every hour or so and chuckle about it).

There was no way with first pg that I could have managed it any better. If you are vomiting constantly and needing hospitalisation (as I was in my case) then you will do anything to try and manage it.

I am more than happy to answer any other questions if that would help at all.

Wanted to add that I was fully expecting to have hyperemesis 2nd time round.

In fact at 4.5 weeks (3 days after bfp) I got up in the night and had a horrible nausea/fainting type episode in the kitchen and I howled because I thought it was all starting up again. That really frightened me.

I really planned ahead wrt childcare for dd1, housework, getting everything straight. Basically taking control so that if the "worst" happened then plans were in place so that I could go into hospital without dd1's care suffering any more than necessary.

Even writing some of this brings tears to my eyes. it is/was a very emotional time.

(btw, dh had the snip when dd2 was 6 weeks old. We both knew we couldn't face another pregnancy! The snip was booked whilst I was still pg )

Sorry. I had HG in pg no.1 and managed it with a very bland diet, and very set meals not really taken that seriously by any medical professional. Second pg, just gone, I had such horrendous HG that I was medicated to avoid hospital, and lucky that unlike some i did not end up in hospital. I ate hardly anything through the pg and put on no weight. By 30wks I was on metoclopramide and omeprozol, as cyclizine did not work for me. I found that I should probably have been hospitalised at the first stage of it all at around 10 wks, but I or the Dr did not take it seriously then, like the first, but then I just could not function and I got medicated quickly after that. I actually found having a child already, and work, horrendous to manage and I spend most of my pregnancy off work sick. The medication stopped me being hospitalised, but that was all. I did not feel well at all throughout it, and had to avoid any food with any kind of flavour. I found, the best thing to eat, was one plain boiled potato, small chunk of salmon. Nothing flavoured on it, not even pepper. Garlic in particular was the worst. I spent so much time at the GP for sick notes and medication and to cry at how shit i felt that I am now friends with one of the receptionists who knew me on the phone before I even said my name

I would recommend too, the HG support website, for ideas on how to manage it, what foods might make it worse etc.

I am sorry I cannot be positive about it. The key I think is go straight to your GP as soon as you feel unable to manage, if this does happen again to you, and insist on some help. If that means going to hospital then do it as it will make you feel better quickly.

That HER site is fantastic.

I am pg with number 2. Was hospitalised with hyperemesis in first trimester a few times.
It was hellish and tbh nearly destroyed me. I very nearly had a termination. It went at 16 weeks, thank God.

I couldn't go through it again in all honesty. If I had an accident (unlikely as dh having vasectomy soon and I am still pg!) I would have a termination. It was hell on me and my poor dh and ds as well as my extended family. However, I have no desire for more kids so easier to say.

I was given Ondansetron EVENTUALLY though it took ages to get taken seriously. Weeks of begging, sobbing, etc, etc.

If you go gor it, be well prepared and arrange childcare, etc in case needed. I couldn't look after ds for about 3 mths, which was the utter pits.

Oh and I am also sorry to be less-than-positive about it, but as I say, it did nearly finish me, mentally as much as physically.

thanks so much ladies, for both the positive stories and not so positive. the not positive ones reassure me that i am not just a wuss and that it really is a horrific thing to go through and validates my concrens. but the positive ones show you can survive anything if you have to!

i wasnt in the uk for my first pregnancy and went from having a high flying career to being in bed for 9 months. i only lasted about 5 weeks into my pregnancy when i had to resign as there was no way i could carry on working. it was increadibly difficult to come to terms with my very sudden change in circumstance.

none of the meds worked for me. i ended up having permanent home help and having an eating/drinking schedule. it was crazy, i threw up between 5 and 12 times a day. i even threw up in my sleep. my poor DH was terrified i would choke to death in the night.

anyway,enough of that!

i just wanted to say thanks so much for your replies, i didnt actually realise how stressed i was feeling about it and you all have really helped.

phok, glad you feel a bit better.

God, you are not a wuss! It is absolute hell to go through. Even contemplating it is bloody brave in my book.

Hope you are able to come to a decision that is right for you soon. ANd god luck if you go for it. I got a lot of support here and on the HER forum.

Hi,
I would just like to add my thoughts here. I had HG in my first pregnancy, it was a total disaster as it meant I couldn't work and we rely on two salaries. I remember lying in my bed on my own all day, being sick and crying most of the time...
When DD was born (and throughout the pregnancy) we knew she would be an only child, we sold all the stuff. It was incredibly hard, I am an only child and always said I would not have an only :-(.
DD is now 6 years old and we have enjoyed her awfully, but now are incredibly thinking again about a second. There has always been a hole in the family, however much we told ourselves there wasn't.
I am preparing myself for the worst again (even more having read these stories, it brings it all back). But I just wanted to give my perspective - that the urge to have a second child is often as strong as the urge for the first. I would not have believed someone saying this when DD was younger, and I know I will upset some people by pointing up the only child factor. I am still basically grateful for having even one child, as I'm sure we all are.
Wish me luck

yet another HG sufferer here wanting to say i feel for you all and share your terror at the idea of going through it all again.

i'm currently ttc no 2 and each time af arrives i'm split between being sad about no bfp and being relieved at another month without having to face the prospect of HG again.

i'm just glad there's support on mn!

I completely sympathise with all of you. I had 'all day sickness' with DC1, then HG with my twins. Unless you've experienced it, no-one can understand how awful it is. I would have done anything to feel normal again. I was in hospital and remember the relief the anti-sickness drugs were pumped in! I made my family promise to remind me of the nightmare so I never became pg again. But 12 months on, just found out I'm pregnant (really pleased) but praying that I don't get HG again. Good luck all. x

Hi again all, I have just posted a new thread re HG drugs - anyone who can help please see my post. Thank-you x

hi im new to mumsnet and joined because i found this thread on google so thanks for that its very helpful, im currently ttc but feel like i might back out as i was hospilalised twice during pregnancy #1 with HG and was prescribed cyclazine wich really helped, when i first started ttc #2 i fell pregnant first time but started feeling very ill again and went to the doc n asked for cyclazine but he wouldnt prescribe it he said prochloreperazine was safer so i took it and miscarried:( , now i am worried about taking anything during the next pregnancy but dont think i could cope without any, im sooo torn has anyone experienced something similar? please help xxx

I’ve had hg 2 times
I had it first at 6 weeks till 14 weeks and started meds at 8 weeks, I tried to come off meds throughout the whole pregnancy and ended up in hospital 4x with fluids and anti sickness meds, it was depressing
Then 2 years later got pregnant again hoping it would be different, it was worse I was sick from 5 weeks through to 24 it was the worse time of my life, both pregnancies were girls, the meds’ didn’t work till 24 weeks, I lost over 2stone and was 6 stone at 4 months pregnant, it was scary and I had a iron transfusion as I kept fainting
I have just found out I’m pregnant again and feel terrified at the thought of going through it again
I’m 5weeks 2 days and no sickness yet! I’m booked for a termination next week but have terrible guilt about what I’m about to do
I hated both pregnancies and it was so hard on our marriage as I couldn’t get out of bed and with having a toddler and now the thought of going through it all again
Has anyone terminated and if so have you regretted it