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Camembert - urgent help please

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NeedaNewName · 31/12/2009 17:22

We have a friend over tonight for New Years Dinner and she is 6 months pregnant. For starter we are doing deep fried camembert - is this OK? I know cold wouldn't be but as its cooked is that OK?

Please help!!!

TIA

and Happy New Year!

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Lastyearsmodel · 31/12/2009 17:35

During my first pregnancy, I would have turned down any cheese on the banned list. However, during my second, armed with absolutely no medical knowledge but a desire to eat more than cheddar for 9 months, I did eat 'banned' cheese if it had been fully heated up. But I imagine it's a very personal thing.

Could you ask your friend? Or do some deep-friend cheddar? Not quite the same, I know...

Lastyearsmodel · 31/12/2009 17:35

That would be deep-fried cheddar .

BellaBalloon · 31/12/2009 17:36

cooked cheese totally fine - all bacteria will be gone if it's melted. absolutely no reason why not.
sounds yummy. lucky friend!

Flightattendant · 31/12/2009 17:42

I'm afraid I ate a lot of out of date brie when I was preggers.

Ds2 is distinctly odd.

heth1980 · 31/12/2009 17:43

yes cooked cheese is absolutely fine - just make sure it's nice and hot all the way through X

potplant · 31/12/2009 17:45

You may find that she wont want to eat it no matter how much you reassure her - I wouldn't have done. Do you have something on standby in case she doesn't want to eat it?

Heated · 31/12/2009 17:48

Yes, deep-fried Camembert is fine for pg women as the heat kills off any potential listeria but anyway it is rare these days for Camembert not to be made with pasteurised milk so is very likely to be safe in its uncooked state. Not all countries warn against eating soft-cheeses in pg, but the literature seems very preoccupied by it in the UK.

Happen to know this as I checked before going out to a favourite restaurant last week where they do a stonking Camembert starter.

Crapweasel · 31/12/2009 17:56

I would check with her first. Piping hot prob = fine but tbh I probably wouldn't have taken the risk last pregnancy and haven't done so this time (yet...!)

fififolle · 31/12/2009 18:19

My mother tried to poison me on boxing day! She'd made an ice cream bomb - I'd assumed by cheating - then when I was halfway through mine, she proceeded to explain how she'd made the sorbet, right down to the egg white! I'd eaten half so finished it and have had no problems since. She didn't seem to understand my panic and kept saying 'I'd never do any thing to put you at risk' - but who's to know which eggs are infected. I was annoyed because I'd been so careful with everything else over Christmas, including watching copious amounts of soft cheese being consumed. I guess the message is, we all try to do our very best, but at the end of the day, some things fall through the net and don't do us any harm. Enjoy your NYE.

Fibilou · 31/12/2009 18:20

Deep frying destroys all bacteria known to man so the minute risk of getting listeria is obliterated.

Not that there is much likelihood of you harming the baby with uncooked camembert anyway - the baby is more likely to die being born than through listeria (1 in 10,000 compared to 1 in 32,000)

Fibilou · 31/12/2009 18:24

Fififolle, all UK chickens are inoculated against salmonella. In 2003 the Food Standards Agency (FSA, 2004) tested a total of 28,500 eggs to discover the occurrence of salmonella. Not a single egg had salmonella inside. All eggs sold in supermarkets in the UK are british in origin and therefore inoculated.
So your Mum hasn't exactly put you at any great risk of harm.

fififolle · 31/12/2009 18:28

Thank you! I was worried at the time, but not overly so as I couldn't un eat it! Does this mean that I can have my desperately missed soft boiled egg?

Fibilou · 31/12/2009 18:31

Well, I've been very cavalier with the dietary stuff so I'm possibly not the best person but i would have one if I craved it. Salmonella is mainly carried on the shells of eggs anyway so if you are boiling them the salmonella will be killed anyway.
There is a very interesting article here
www.radmid.demon.co.uk/dietarydogma.htm
on the dietary guidelines which surprised me in how much of the guidelines aren't actually backed up with good quality research

NeedaNewName · 01/01/2010 12:40

Thank you everyone, she took my lead when I said that I would have eaten so she said she was fine - thats when I panicked and came on here!!!

I did also look on another website for the official advice and yes you were right, cooked cheese is absolutely fine - we cooked hers for longer than everyone elses just to make sure and it was very yummy!

BTW fifi I ate soft boiled eggs or fried eggs and was absolutely fine too.

Happy New Year to you all!

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