Mrs Moc's Major Placenta Previa

[MrsMoc]

Hi Cazza

Setting up my own thread as you have suggested * Thanks *

Things are looking up a little for me.

I have reached 29 weeks today and Dr's think the scans have shown an improvement.

I still have major placenta previa and there is no hope of the placenta moving, but the seperation I had has now healed.

The baby is lying transverse which is good also as there is no pressure on the placenta.

The plan is still to hopefuly have me at home until 34 weeks then readmit me to the antenatal ward.

As you now from previous threads, my DH who is a recovering alcoholic was drinking while I was in hospital when he was minding the 3 other kids we have.

He has since sworn that this wont happen again, but I would never trust his word on this.

My own personal plan is only to go into hospital if I bleed and to go home as soon as bleeding stops.

Of course I have no way of knowing what will happen with my pregnancy, but im trying to be positive, follow the Dr's orders and pray there is a god up there who will look after us all.

Hi Lyns

Good to hear from you, im so sorry you had more bleeding, at least they were small though.

I do have a plan in place though I have now little faith in these plans as the seem to keep changing.

I will be staying out until my next bleed, or 34 weeks or I may get readmitted during one of my weekly scans. The hospital expect me to bleed again and soon.

Each bleed seems to be heavier and last longer, and I will spend any time bleeding in the delivery suite incase they need to deliver. The aim is to get to 36 - 38 weeks.

I have put in place arrangements for the kids to be at my mums and MIL's when im next in hospital.

I have tried talking to DH but he just thinks im over reacting.

I really hope you manage to stay out of hopsital and keep to your plan Lyns.

Oh god how cheeky of him!!!! I can't believe he is being like this towards you. Maybe your right and he doesn't know how to deal with the situation... Its so very very sad that you obviously both feel like your marriage won't last.

Can I ask was everything ok for you both before this pregnancy?? Was it planned?? How would you both feel about counselling together? When I was admitted to hospital at 29 weeks my husband and I found it very difficult to communicate. We just couldn't understand each others pressures and worries... I remember clearly him saying to me that it was hard for him and our then 2 year old son as I had been taken away from them... I then said ok Im trying to understand but please remember everything has been taken away from me...

It put a massive strain on our marriage and I eventually had to see a psychiatrist. My pregnancy was unplanned... Even though we were happily married. I went through so much with our first son that I didnt want to go through it all again...
We have had counselling since the birth of DD2.
I cant help but feel bad that you and your DH cant get through this...

Still praying for you and hoping that god sweeps you up and carries you through this time in your life...

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Hi Cazza

I think his behaviour has been disgusting, he usually takes the "attack is the best form of defence" route.

I spoke to him some more yesterday and explained his attitude on top of everything else is just too much to forgive or cope with right now. I pointed out he didnt really have much to be angry with me about.

As an active alcoholic he deludes himself, he tells so many lies I think he believes them himself.

On the other hand he had been sober 17 months prior to this with a few slips in between. The pregnancy was planned and he is a completely different person when he does not have drink in his system. I know he will look back on this week horrified in a few days time. He is normally loving, caring and fair, however empathy would not be a strong point.

His attitude is already changing, he's apologised and offering to do things, being nice and asking if im ok. I still can't bear to speak to him. I just cant see the relationship recovering, I feel so badly let down.

As far as the bleeding, I have had a few red trickles this morning. Im im bed now and will be staying here. No going out today. Im just waiting to see if the bleeding is going to get heavy in which case I will go to hospital. The uncertainty is enough to drive you insane.

Im not used to the trickles so im not sure if its a sign of a big bleed coming. Usually they start in the night when im sleeping, so im not sure if it starts slowly. I've only had 3 small trickles in the last 4 hours.

I hope everything is still fine with you Lyns.

Hope your ok Lyns xx

I've had another boring day housebound and mostly in bed, seems to be helping though as I only had 2 little trickles of bleeding in the last 24 hours.

It will be my Birthday on Wednesday, im hoping to get that by me before anything else happens.

Keep safe xx

Not sure if anyone is following my thread anymore, but Im being readmitted today. I had my scan at 3pm, and was given 2 hours to go home and collect my things( after much arguement)

Just waiting now on DH coming to give me a lift

Hello Angela...

Sorry its taken me a while I've had so much going on the last few days (and the thread dissappeared somehow)??....

How are things going for you? Obviously being back in hospital is probably a MASSIVE step back for you but must make it a little easier to sleep?!

Hoe are things with DH? I would imagine this is clearly putting a strain on things. Let me know how you are and how your feeling...

So sorry I haven't managed to get on... Have been praying for you. Also I think lots of people I know all over the world have too!!
Will carry on praying for you and sending you positive thoughts...

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Hi Cazza

I know, I had problems finding the thread a few times as well. Its nice to hear from you again. I hope Lyns is ok as well, as there has been nothing from her.

My scan on Tuesday showed a tear in the placenta and my cervix had opened 1cm, also seen a pool of blood and some clots, so I had to be readmitted.

As it turned out I took a bleed late on Tuesday night and was very thankful to be in hospital as I avoided the stress and panic of another ambulance.

DH is much easier to talk to once he has had a chance to get the alcohol out of his system. Its a bit like dealing with Jekyll and Hyde.

I sort of believe and hope this time he will stay off it as there is so many people watching him now, that I made sure it was all out in the open. It wouldn't be so easy to hide. The agreement we came to was that he would be at the hospital every morning at 8.00 am so I could see if he had been drinking.

I still feel deep down he has done some serious damage to the marriage this time though. Im staying in hospital now till the baby is born and doctors think i will be lucky to reach 34 weeks, but im praying for a bit longer.

Hi Mrs Moc,

Just noticed your thread is about to disappear off the end of the list. I have been following it for a while, as I have placenta previa also. How many weeks are you now? Hope hospital's not too bad. Keep us up to date on what's going on.

I too wish to keep this thread going. Placenta previa grade IV here. 25+4 and counting. No bleeds so far but for how long? Hope your well mrsmoc

Hi all

I wasn't sure if anyone was still following or not, but im happy to give an update and wish you both lots of luck with your PP.

Im now 32 + 4, which is good as I was originally told I would not get to 32 weeks.

They still want me to get to 34 weeks, but im determined to get to 38 lol purely on positive thinking. I really want my baby to be with me after she is born, im not sure I would cope too well with SCBU.

The antenatal ward is incredibly boring and the routine is enough to drive you nuts. I have started to make a christening robe for the LO which is helping to pass the time. I have spent the best part of the last 9 weeks here with another possible 6 to go.

I know its posssible to have this and have no bleeds and I sincerely hope you both will prove to be the lucky ones and stay out of hospital.

I have little trickles now and then but nothing heavy since the last bleed I mentioned, it may be all the bedrest lol.

DH is also behaving (I think) he visits twice a day, including first thing in the morning so I can see for myself if he is fresh and bright.

Angela xx

great to hear from you, i was really quite worried. You have given me lots of hope and i am keeping everything crossed not to bleed but there is hope if i do which is nice to hear. have you had any medications (steroid injections anything to stop contractions?) also how are you accessing internet? I haven't been in hospital for more than a day or two before so didn't need to but wanting to get as much info as poss just in case (should i pack my laptop in hospital bag)

BTW Hydrangea how far along are you and what grade PP have you got? have you had any 'episodes'?

MrsMoc, I have been lurking on this thread on and off and just wanted to wish you and BabyMoc good luck.
Hope you do not go out of your mind with boredom on the antenatal ward and that a healthy baby will ensue - in 6 weeks time !

I had grade 4 PP with DS2, first big bleed at 25 weeks, in hospital from then on, delivered at 31+4, he spent 5 weeks in SCBU and is now a strapping 5 year old with plans to play rugby for Scotland . He is now v v proud that he once was "the smallest baby in the world" which is a phrase I may have used once or twice .. He was 1710g, BTW.

So, seeing as you have reached 32 weeks, all ought to be well.

Lots of luck to you, and all the other ladies here.

Im accessing the internet wth mobile broadband and a dongle ( something which goes into a usb port and is a mobile modem )

I would strongly recommend a laptop as well as the internet, as you can play dvd's.

Hopefully you stay out though and dont need it.

I haven't had any more injections as I think you only get the steroids twice, which I've had. Thankfully I havent had any contractions either, although my cervix is open.

One thing I have noticed is I usually lose my mucus plug before a bleed, not much use in the middle of the night, but handy in the day as it can help ease the shock factor when the blood starts flowing.

Thanks for your story Pacific, its good to hear about the success stories and your story is so nice it brought tears to my eyes, what happened at 31 + 4 that you delivered? What I mean is, was it too big a bleed, too much blood loss over time, early labour ?

Although im determined to get to 38 weeks, im so aware this pregnancy could end tonight through no fault of my own and its scary.

I have another scan tomorrow. Im hoping the seperation will have healed again, or if theres a bleed coming I will at least have a warning. I know I wont get home now until the baby's born.

Angela xx

Angela, good morning,

Having internet access and a facility to play DVDs saved my sanity, so much recommended to all you ladies with a potentially/hopefully lengthy hospital stay ahead of you! My DH also occasionally smuggled a piccolo of bubbly onto the ward...

I came VERY close to being delivered at 25+6 weeks, so 31+4 seemed positively phantastic at the time ! Mind you, I only realised that things were serious when I was in the ambulance being transferred to another hospital because "my" hospital did not have any neonatal ITU cots available that night. All I could think was "I am NOT having a baby tonight, what are they thinking, I am only 25 weeks!". Rational thought had really gone out the window a bit. Also the fact that I had 3 consultants in my room at 3am on a Sunday was not a v good sign... Anyway, that bleed stopped, I had another couple big ones that lasted a few hours, but always settled. They always started in the middle of the night with me flat on my back in bed, never when I was up and about. The last one started @midnight and had not stopped by 6am when I was advised to have the baby delivered, but refused, silly cow that I am. Bleed continued and @ midday I felt v peculiar, different from before. I had an emergency but not crash section and it turns out the placenta had just started separating. So we were very very lucky. I still feel sick when I think about it. Should have had the section at 6.

Anyway, all's well that ends well. My biggest problem with DS2 now is his cheek , so like I said, v v lucky and v v grateful.

BTW, my other 2 successful pregnancies both went to over 42 weeks... funny, isn't it?

Have a good day, PD x.

Hi PD

Thanks for your story. Strange that, most of my bleeds happen in the middle of the night as well, I've had a few bleeds start during the day but they are usually lighter.

I also had an episode of heavy bleeding for over 3 hours and refused to let them deliver when I was at 30 weeks. Looking back I can see that I was playing with fire, they give me another 1/2 hour and thankfully the bleeding started to ease off but didnt stop for another 12 hours.

I have never felt ill or sick with this at all. I have been scared and have been in bad shock when bleeding heavy with lots of clots and waiting on an ambulance. I was shaking so bad I couldnt speak and felt so cold DH ran and got me a blanket. I realised later it was shock.

My placenta has already started seperating, the doctors dont seem very positive here, but I feel the oppostite especially since its been a while now since I have had any bleeding. Im just so bored.

Lol at the bubbly, unfortunately I dont think DH could be trusted to go pick up any bubbly lol.

Okay so im not having such a good day and feel really scared. My consultant came round to see me today and wanted to talk me through the risks of my CS. She said there was a possibility of needing a hysterectomy if bleeding was heavy during CS and said she had to let me know about the risk of death as well.

I suppose it makes sense that the placenta will bleed during the CS and the risks come if the bleeding doesnt stop. Im so freaked out right now.

i would be freaked out too, but hey there are risks everytime you start the engine of a car. i think you have to rationalise that in this day and age this is very unlikely and this will not take the surgeon by surprise which used to be the case and I am sure why the outcome wasn't always favourable.

on the bright side the baby is still thriving inside you which is great, especially considering how many bleeds you've had. How far along are you now? has the bleeding stopped yet? are you keeping your spirits up otherwise.

I am 26 weeks (and seem to count every hour that goes by) and waiting for first bleed (secretly hoping i am one of the lucky ones but no where near believing it could be so, seems like more chance of winning the lottery ). Have you any idea when the first bleeds are most likely to occur?

Im now 33 + 2

My first bleeds were technically at 6 & 8 & 12 weeks, though they were more like a period and Dr's thought it was a threatened miscarriage. My first real bleed, as in pouring out during the night was at 21 weeks and again at 23 weeks & 24 weeks. The longest between bleeds has been 2 weeks.

The consensus here seems to be you are either a bleeder or not and im unfortunate in that.

My scans are good at predicting bleeds and the frequency seems to stem from the seperation I have.

In between the bleeds I have little trickles of red blood or a constant brown loss. Dr's have told me to stop looking for a pattern as there is no rhyme or reason. However before my bleeds I usually pass yellow jelly which I now know is the mucus plug. So this is a good thing to look out for.

At the minute baby is fine and its been 2 weeks since a bleed, but hopefully all this bedrest will keep the bleeding at bay and I have to just hope to get to 37/38 weeks without a bleed which results in delivery.

Im the type that would be in nerves getting a tooth out, so was worried about the CS to begin with. Im worried now that there is a real chance I may not survive the CS or have to have the hysterectomy. I feel petrified of having the CS.

I know that there is nothing I can do about it, and should probably not dwell on the risks, but the idea of this CS now makes feel like im going to puke with nerves.

The consultant said she had to go through these risks with me especially because my placenta has been so badly behaved and it will be less traumatic for me if I prepare myself now for being in an emergency situation.

I think the fact you havent had a bleed yet at 26 weeks is a really good sign that you may be one of the ones that never bleed. I really hope this continues to be the case for you.

its funny the c-section is what i fear least whereas you seem to have handled the bleeds so well and that is what i fear the most.

you have done so well to get to 33+2. my nephew was born at 27+3 the same year as my DD who was born at 35+5 and they are as well-developed and naughty as eachother and you'd never know. I think you are out of the woods regarding the welfare of your LO and that must be such a relief. Hang on in there. not long now. I hope i get as far as you.

I dont think I will feel out of the woods regarding the LO until I reach 36 weeks. Though im really pleased i've got as far as I have. 34 weeks will be a huge milestone as well.

I think I would have been afraid of a normal CS anyway, but knowing there is likley to be added complications just makes my blood turn cold. Im such a wuss lol.

Dear forevermore,

I am now 36 weeks weeks. At a 35.5 week scan the placenta was 25mm awway from the internal os. But as it is posterior the minimum is 30mm. So does that make it grade 1?
It was overlapping at 20 weeks and reaching at 32 weeks so I am really pleased that it has moved at all.
I am also very lucky to have had no bleeding whatsoever.
At the moment I am booked in for another scan for 38 weeks and a C/section at 39 weeks which I am praying won't be necessary. I saw a consultant for the first time after the last scan, he wasn't very supportive or helpful and seemed too eager just to give me a c/s.

MrsMoc,
Glad you've reached 33+2 will pray that you get to 36 weeks. I too am petrified of a c/s. I can understand why you are so afraid, I don't know how I'd cope being in your situation. I'm struggling enough in my own much less serious one.

Lucky you. I think that's a grade one but a c section may still be the only way forward. On the brightside baby is at a great gestation you must be so relieved. What grade where you at 20 weeks? Was it complete Overlying?

Does anyone know what is the significance of posterior versus anterior previa?

Hi

Thats great news Hydrangea, I hope it moves a bit more and you manage a normal delivery. It sounds a possibility. Well done!!

I had a CS with my first almost 15 years ago and it was scary then, its not the worst experience but im sooo squeamish.

The posterior placenta is situated better than anterior. This is because the posterior lies towards the back and there is less chance of developing placenta accreta, a condition where the placenta can grow into the bladder or an old CS scar. There is also less chance of bleeding with posterior and less chance of it rupturing during the CS.

Anterior placentas are also known to bleed more.

Mine is neither lol. My placenta is evenly placed over the cervix and is attached to the front and rear of the uterus, which is why there is seperation and quite a bit of bleeding.

I've got this information from a mixture of my consultant and other patients so I cant confirm how accurate it is, but my consultant did say its better its not more anterior.

Hope this helps.

BTW, sitting now with a small bleed, feel a little gutted as I have not had any blood in a week.