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Blue/soft cheese - ok if it's cooked?

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Millie26 · 07/09/2008 20:11

Stilton, melted on toast.

I want it more than anything in the world.

Please can I have it and not risk giving my unborn child some sort of traumatic poisoning?

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EffiePerine · 09/09/2008 13:37

pate is off becasue of high vit A I think (most is made of liver)

soft/blue cheese fine if cooked and just found that ALL hard cheese is OK, pasteurised or not (hooray!)

MinkyBorage · 09/09/2008 13:38

pate apparently possible toxoplasmosis
Peanuts because it may increase you childs chances of nut allergy. Got to be bollocks, surely, esp if no allergy in family???

EffiePerine · 09/09/2008 13:38

peanuts used to be no-no cos of allergies

now they say don't worry unless you/family members are allergic to them

(phew)

Peachy · 09/09/2008 13:40

peanut butter- not having (unless nut allergies in family) is old advice (nless has changed again in 5 month since ds4 joined us)- noe the thought is that eating nuts whilst pg / bf reduces likelihood of allergies

EffiePerine · 09/09/2008 13:40

and eating peanuts could reduce risk of allergies

Olihan · 09/09/2008 13:47

Peanut butter is, afaik, because if you eat too many peanuts then you could cause your children to have nut allergies. Although I have a feeling that has been disproved in a recent study and they're now thinking the opposite - that not hvaing them could provoke an allergy.

It's all a load of alarmist, over reaction to minscule risks, imo.

That article I linked to earlier puts the cases of listeria at 6.5 cases per million people and 85% of those were in those over 70 years of age.

So the actual risk is so tiny, you'd probably be more likely to win the lottery and you're definitely more likely to get run over.

So my advice is, stay inside for your whole pg and eat blue cheese, it's less risky.

thehairybabysmum · 09/09/2008 14:03

My own non scientific theory which i used through both my pregnancies is the M&S approach to pregnancy foods.

My reasoning was that as a lot of old ladies buy M&S food and they are also a group at risk from listeria then i figured it would be headline news if hoards of old folk were keeling over with food poisoning from M&S. As ive never seen anything like this on the news then i figured if i bought something in Marks it would be ok to eat!! Therefore blue cheese, brie, prawns and anything else i fancied really from M&S were on my menu! I did avoid pate but that was due to the Vit A issue not food poisoning.

Obviously this was all a big ruse to eat yummy food from M&S like a horse, but no food poisoning for me!

Peachy · 09/09/2008 14:12

LOL at last post because.....

years ago I went to visit a food factory; they had two sets of control standard- very high for all but one customer

mega mega high for M&S

so you might be onto summat there.....

SquiffyHock · 09/09/2008 14:20

I know that with pate it's because of vitamin A but wouldn't you have to eat a hell of a lot for there to be a risk?? My mum said they were encouraged to eat liver because of the iron content!

cathym · 09/09/2008 16:13

I'm not an expert but I'm sure the only problem with fish is if its raw. I eat prawns all the time. Lots of protein and no fat - makes up for all the chocolate I eat

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Millie26 · 09/09/2008 17:08

Seafood is fine as long as its cooked. I guess sushi has more chance of having nasty bacteria.

am off to M&S for my stilton now - so glad you all wrote on this thread.

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cathym · 09/09/2008 17:11

Sushi doesn't always have raw fish. You can get ones with tuna which I sometimes get now I am pregnant, and you can also get vege ones.

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Millie26 · 09/09/2008 17:14

Good point.

Love sushi. Particularly from M&S.

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Madigan · 09/09/2008 17:25

am so happy ... prawn cocktail here I come. Will make the next 6 months soooo much easier to bear (I really do love it!!).

Now.... the thorny issue of alcohol. I have not touched a drop the first 12 weeks. Is say 1/2 glass of wine maybe twice a week ok from now on? I seriously cannot beleive that that would harm the baby, and I would really really enjoy it. Am I being selfish? Please be honest!

poppy34 · 09/09/2008 17:35

madigan people do have the odd glass of wine but that said there are risks associated with alcohol consumption during pregnancy. its really up to you whether you are ok with that risk (also the idea of wine whilst I was pregnant was not good....)

although that said loads of people I know did have odd glass when pregnant so you're not alone

cathym · 09/09/2008 17:41

Everyone seems to have a different opinion on alcohol but I have heard 'experts' say that during the first 12 weeks you shouldn't touch it at all but after that a couple of units a week is fine. The reason some people say you shouldn't drink at all during the whole pregnancy is because some people have no idea of what a sensible amount is.
My view is that the odd mouthful won't harm anyone. If there is a decent bottle of wine open I like to have a sip, and sometimes the smell of dh's beer is too much and I have to have a sip of that.

mrsfossil · 09/09/2008 18:16

Hi I think the brie you buy here is pasturised so shouldn't be a problem, where as in France it isn't. With pate its the high levels of vit a which can cause birth defects. I did have a little bit of pate on toast with ds and he was fine. But i do occasionally eat eggs with runny yolk as the ones i get have the lion stamp so the hens have been vacinated against salmonella.

With last pregnancy i did drink small amounts of lager occasionally as i really fancied it ususlly i never drink it. I couldn't stand the smell of wine which is the same with this pregnancy.

but now someone has mentioned stilton and brocoli soup i really want some

titmouse · 09/09/2008 18:21

Husband and I are planning a break in Oct and I found a hotel we like which has goats cheese something on the menu and I sooo want it, glad that other people are eating forbidden cheeses and surviving!
I'm vegetarian and getting bored of cheddar.

Tapster · 09/09/2008 18:43

Alcohol and pregnancy is very controversial on mumsnet. Just two years ago the royal society of surgeons said one or two units a day showed no side effects. There are risks with almost everything. Alcohol has been researched and nothing proves a small amount a week is risky - government doesn't trust us with alcohol thinking its best to say none as we don't know what a unit is according to most market research.

Alcohol has been researched, coca-cola/aspartamine have they been researched and other substances in daily consumption? Not sure having a glass of coke is better than a glass of wine myself.

boogeek · 09/09/2008 19:26

I had DD1 in Japan and all the pregnant ladies eat sushi there ;)
I maybe wouldn't eat it if it wasn't very fresh (but that is true whether pg or not).
Re pate: all my friends whose babies are older than about 15 were encouraged to eat liver while pregnant, for the iron. You can't win! But I agree that you would have to eat a lot for it to be a problem: a wee bit on a cracker must be ok.

poppy34 · 09/09/2008 20:37

just to add to this I am not sure all pregnant women in france hold off eating cheese -then again I think it tends to be fresher there...

divedaisy · 10/09/2008 11:35

I'm more confused now than ever!
I love eggs runny, but now can only take them 'safely' if hard boiled (to which I've to add loads of butter to make it nice and tasty)
I avoided pate last time, and will do again.. but I never really ate it much any how.. however I do have a fancy for pate on toast with sliced apple. DOes it matter if you buy mushroom pate, or is the scare advice about pork/meat pate versions? What about fish pate??
I love sushi, Tescos do one - I think its a cooked version - surely they wouldn't leave raw food on a shelf for you to eat? Ok to eat from sushi restaraunt, but from sitting on a shelf?...hmmm
As for alcohol, I just can't tolerate it too much - too much indigestion with it!

SquiffyHock · 10/09/2008 13:12

My midwife told me that runny eggs are fine - she pointed out that salmonella is hardly rife so just buy good quality eggs.

SlinkieM · 10/09/2008 20:53

Pate is also listeria risk as well.
Not all brie here is pasteurised - and strictly speaking you shouldn't eat it even if it is (see FSA site) although the pasteurised stuff is lower risk than the really gorgeous stinky unpasteurised ones...

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