WMMC back in hospital again grrrrrrr

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Even crosser than before because my BP is lower than before but had shoulder tip pain earlier and cx every 3 minutes, but was not in pain so just carried on waddling round.

v bored.

oh no! That's a shame! what's the relevance of the should tip pain? Is that a sign of pre eclampsia?

oh no! That's a shame! what's the relevance of the should tip pain? Is that a sign of pre eclampsia?

Oh no!

Yikes, and TV is so boring tonight.

Any chance of getting some DVDs in?

I've always thought a good business would be to do a sort of mobile Blockbuster in hospitals and folk could hire films to watch on their laptops.

WMMC, sorry to read you're back in.

FWIW, I had low BP with DD3, who incidentally kept trying to come throughout the month before she was due. I made use of a spiritual midwifery (IIRC!) tip of, urm, going to sleep! It seemed to work. (She held on till her 'EDD' anyway!)

Easier said than done in a hospital I know.

Hold on to your wonderful humour and inner calm, all will be well xx

(Says she who would probably be bored into staff baiting in the full knowledge that it really is generally not constructive )

Oh bummer WMMC.

Further to Ate's suggestion, Ina May always recommends booze to stop contractions She seems to think it's effective, but I'm not so sure baby would agree.

I hope this is just a blip and that you're back at home soon xx

How often are they monitoring your bp? Is there a chance it could be monitored at home? Always worth asking - don't ask, don't get.

I wonder how you are WMMC?

Right so the advice seems to be - drink alcohol, sleep (well one follows other in my case), and hire DVDs

Shoulder tip pain in the right hand side can indicate liver problems which obv is a side effect of pre-eclampsia (I know this because my liver went to hell last time I got PET).

I'm back home. For the time being. On the promise that DH will monitor me and grass me up if I get sick!

Was too noisy in hospital for sleep anyway so wasn't getting any rest and missing DD like mad (apparently it was mutual - she finally slept at 11pm and was up at 6am looking for me!)

If I lie down and do sod all and I mean totally sod all, I can get it down to about 90 dystolic which is frankly still a bit high and rubbish, but as soon as I move or even think it seems to rocket.

Had a big show on Friday morning too which I think freaked the docs out a bit. So the plan is:

• Go back on Monday for assessment unless my BP goes over about 100 dystolic (which is did briefly earlier till I took two paracetamols - think it was just the headache which was sending it up).
• Have presentation, doppler and growth scans to check DS is in the right position - I'm pretty sure that's a head resting on my cervix but it could be something else - perhaps a space hopper? ), doppler is to check the blood flow to the placenta and growth scan to see how big he is in case he decides to make a bid for freedom or the doppler shows compromised blood flow which will stop him thriving.

The current outlook is to attempt to get me to 36 weeks (next Thursday) and then see how things are, hopefully then going onto 38 weeks. After that, it's anyone's guess really, I could have a caesarian, I could try for a VBAC but a homebirth isn't too sensible (heart conditions and high BP are not good bedfellows when you are labouring in the sticks).

Which is a bit of a bugger

Personally I'd rather book in for a scheduled section because then at least I'll have a bit of control over things. But I may well change my mind by tomorrow.

Still bloody cross though - I've actually done all the right things this pregnancy and it's still gone tits up.

Am thinking about repacking a bag for Monday's appt just in case - Friday I sent DH to Sainsburys with DD thinking I would only be monitored for 10 minutes or so and I could walk down to meet them afterwards.

Right so the advice seems to be - drink alcohol, sleep (well one follows other in my case), and hire DVDs

Shoulder tip pain in the right hand side can indicate liver problems which obv is a side effect of pre-eclampsia (I know this because my liver went to hell last time I got PET).

I'm back home. For the time being. On the promise that DH will monitor me and grass me up if I get sick!

Was too noisy in hospital for sleep anyway so wasn't getting any rest and missing DD like mad (apparently it was mutual - she finally slept at 11pm and was up at 6am looking for me!)

If I lie down and do sod all and I mean totally sod all, I can get it down to about 90 dystolic which is frankly still a bit high and rubbish, but as soon as I move or even think it seems to rocket.

Had a big show on Friday morning too which I think freaked the docs out a bit. So the plan is:

• Go back on Monday for assessment unless my BP goes over about 100 dystolic (which is did briefly earlier till I took two paracetamols - think it was just the headache which was sending it up).
• Have presentation, doppler and growth scans to check DS is in the right position - I'm pretty sure that's a head resting on my cervix but it could be something else - perhaps a space hopper? ), doppler is to check the blood flow to the placenta and growth scan to see how big he is in case he decides to make a bid for freedom or the doppler shows compromised blood flow which will stop him thriving.

The current outlook is to attempt to get me to 36 weeks (next Thursday) and then see how things are, hopefully then going onto 38 weeks. After that, it's anyone's guess really, I could have a caesarian, I could try for a VBAC but a homebirth isn't too sensible (heart conditions and high BP are not good bedfellows when you are labouring in the sticks).

Which is a bit of a bugger

Personally I'd rather book in for a scheduled section because then at least I'll have a bit of control over things. But I may well change my mind by tomorrow.

Still bloody cross though - I've actually done all the right things this pregnancy and it's still gone tits up.

Am thinking about repacking a bag for Monday's appt just in case - Friday I sent DH to Sainsburys with DD thinking I would only be monitored for 10 minutes or so and I could walk down to meet them afterwards.

Oh WMMC, I'm so sorry. Looks like PE just won't leave you alone. Really hope that it just 'simmers' along for a while and buys you some more time. Are you on BP meds? Have they given you the antenatal steroids for the baby's lung development?
Sounds so much like what happened to me last time- like you I'd done everything "right" in my 2nd pregnancy and was determined PE wouldn't strike us again- I was so gutted when it did. But at least that time I had 24hrs warning of the c-section so although technically it was written down as an emergency it wasn't in my mind. I didn't get as ill as I did first time either, and DD did much better being born at 36 weeks than DS's 30 weeks!
But I must warn you, when the time came for the section (which I'd been hoping to avoid) I just wept as I waited for the spinal block to be inserted....Far more emotional than I'd thought I'd be (usually pretty good at keeping my emotions under control)- but it just brought back so vividly what had happened the first time. Luckily DH was wonderful and they didn't start until I'd stopped crying at least!!

Thinking of you loads- now just keep lying down!! xx

Oh WMMC, what a shitter.

I'm glad both of you are ok, but it doesn't take away from the fact that things haven't gone to plan. When you put so much emotional time and effort into things, then the goalposts are moved it can really throw you off balance.

Whatever happens, as long as you are 'happy' with why and when things are done, you can't do anymore.

It sounds like it would be wise to keep your hospital bag in your car from now on. It sounds like anything could happen.

Good luck and look after yourself xx

ps have you tried listening to hypnobirthing cd's to help with lowering your bp?

BP not shifting downwards despite lying down, listening to hypnobirthing CDs etc. Today is 140/95 - 150/110 .

Am repacking bag in case I'm admitted for the duration.

I'm not a suitable candidate for BP meds unfortunately - big bloody hole in the heart and blood clotting disorder, both make the medics very nervous about what they give me. But in any case I'm 36 weeks on Thursday so there's not a lot in it if he does come out a bit early.

Am having the growth, doppler and presentation scans tomorrow afternoon so we will hopefully know a bit more then.

I'm not cross anymore, these things happen - there's nothing you can do. I'm clearly bloody rubbish at pregnancy but that's okay, I'm excellent at lots of things and I'm good at being a mummy so it doesn't really matter. I'm sort of resigned to having a section again now - if anything else happens that'll be lovely but since it's about 90% that he's coming out the catflap, I may as well work towards that positively.

But I will miss the gas and air experience

Am going to get DH to ring the health insurers tomorrow to arrange a family room so if I am admitted for the duration they can both stay for a few nights.

WMMC- thinking of you & your family lots over the next few days (hopefully maybe week or more). Like you said to have got to nearly 36 weeks is brilliant, your LO will be fine- even if a SCBU stay is involved it shouldn't be for long.

In a way I would be surprised if they didn't admit you for the duration tomorrow looking at your BP readings BUT here's hoping! Wishing you lots of luck and calmness. Hope the doppler scan etc. shows everything is still ok.

If you can pack some Arnica 30 in your bag - foudn this helped my recovery lots from my last c-section. That and lavender room spray or essential oil to keep that calmness where possible and banish that awful smell of hospitals...

Take care xxx

oh poo and bollocks, wmmc. keep safe.

Oh no!!! Sending mahoosive hugs your way and I have not forgot about your little parcel for the bub...have not got around to posting it.... just as well though, sounds as if you need choc in there as well...

Meant to add- I'm also in the rubbish at being pregnant gang. But I'm glad you are no longer angry about it, because that took me a long while to accept and stop being upset about and it does you no good at all. You are a great Mum

PS. I'm sure I read somewhere that eating dark choc has been shown to be good for lowering BP?! x

Oh no, WMMC - best of luck with it all - hope things go the way you want.

best of luck WMMC

Best of luck WMMC.

Hugs from another who is crap at being pregnant!

Good luck for today WMMC.

Good luck for this afternoon . 36 weeks is pretty good, isn't it?

Good luck WMMC

However he decides to make an appearance, it looks like you may well be cuddling your ds sooner rather than later - how exciting

hope the scans are ok today. take care . we'll be looking out for your birth announcement!

Good luck WMMC!

Ah you lot are lovely

I genuinely am touched to have so many people who have never met me care enough to reply

So.....we have some news.

Went to the hospital today and midwives had an absolute panic because though my blood pressure was normal, my urine was normal and actually I was pretty nice considering I didn't want to be there, a quick prod of my stomach bought three midwives and one doctor running to feel for my breech baby.

Who of course wasn't breech. Twunts! They were running round having a real panic for about twenty minutes before the snr consultant turned up with the mobile ultrasound, took a two second scan of my lower abdomen and said 'yep, head down' and legged it.

So that's good. They couldn't do the doppler and growth scans today because they forgot to book them . My confidence in these people is growing by the hour - not.

So I've got to go back next Monday and have agreed to monitor my own BP (which will be going up tomorrow because the MiL arrives for three days gah!)

It think the midwives at the assessment unit are more stressed about all this than I am actually. I looked at my blood results today and oh what a surprise, last week I had signs of an infection showing up, and my blood pressure was up. I also had painful BH every three minutes. Infection and pain are two things that will push your blood pressure up very effectively, particularly during late pregnancy and since DD has also had some sort of bug I reckon that may have been the problem.

In any case I actually feel pretty well today. BP is down to 80 something diastolic (this is fine). I've just spent an hour pulling blanketweed out of the fishpond and walked two miles earlier because I couldn't be arsed to wait for a taxi, so there is clearly bugger all wrong with me as I've been saying for the past 72 hours but to no avail.

DH and my mum, plus every single doctor, midwife and interested party in the world are now assuming I want a caesarian.

And I'm having a think and ignoring the whole bloody lot of them. I have scans next Monday and then an mw appt on Wednesday but I've got a bit of breathing room till then.

If there was an issue with DS then obviously yes, fine. But I'm not signing up for major surgery without a bloody good reason. Especially as I have discovered that DS cannot have inherited my blood clotting disorder because DH doesn't carry the right gene for him to do so.

Also my prothrombin levels are actually higher than normal (strictly speaking anything up to 40% normal levels is most people is normal for me so that means I've not only hit normality but gone beyond it to boringly normal. You could probably poke me with a sharp stick and get barely a trickle of blood out of me! Although I'd prefer it if the docs didn't here that suggestion - they seem fairly keen on sticking needles in me at the minute!

So I'm just all confused and puzzled now. And a little bit smug too

Glad to hear that you're OK.