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Positives after multiple Chemicals PLEASE

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Sparkle880 · 01/08/2025 22:42

Hi I was after some advice, I am currently going through my 3rd consecutive chemical pregnancy, for context I have two healthy children (and same partner) I have fallen pregnant every cycle in the last 3 months but the first time I only tested on the day my period was due, had a faint positive in the morning and by the evening AF arrived. Next cycle I had faint positives for 3 days from 9dpo they finally turned darker from 12dpo but by 14dpo started to fade (had HGC blood drawn which was 25 at 14dpo, and dropped to 9 at 16dpo) then AF arrived the following day 1 week late. Following my 2nd chemical I had a scan at a fertility clinic which all looked good and showed a dominant follicle about to ovulate and a good AMH of 22, I then conceived on this cycle too and have been having very very faint positives now for 4 days with no progression at all, due on my period today, I know this pregnancy isn’t viable so just waiting for AF! I have managed to get an appointment at my local hospitals fertility clinic next week and I’m just wondering what things I should be asking. Do I just carry on trying as I know early losses are common, but maybe not 3 in a row (I have perviously also has two later miscarriages 7 & 10 weeks between DC 1&2 and went on to conceive naturally with nothing other than prenatals) do I just need to keep trying and eventually will get a sticky one, or should I be pushing for a particular protocol. Please anyone with 3 chemicals or more and positive stories I need to hear from you!!!

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Sparkle880 · 02/08/2025 09:06

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Lemniscate8 · 02/08/2025 09:11

I would suggest just stop testing so early. Women didn't go through this pain when they didn't test until their period was really late. Most conceptions dont establish, and many pregnancy tests give false positives at that time of them month too. Just wait, and find out later. If all women tested that early every time, we would probably find that "chemicals" outnumber established pregnancies maybe 4 or 6 to 1

Happydays2025 · 02/08/2025 14:34

I am sorry you are going through this. I had 5 chemicals/early miscarriages before my daughter (after a successful pregnancy with my son) What worked in the end was Sitigliptin and progesterone from 3dpo for an unreceptive endometrial lining after testing with Professor Brosens at Coventry which was recently featured on the BBC https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c39zvjmmwndo
Please don't listen to the 'losses are common' rubbish. Yes they are but recurrant miscarriages are not.
Also you can get testing through the GP for conditions that may play a factor but it takes time to get referred , I was found to have an under active thyroid after the third one, medication may have helped but clearly was not the whole picture. For context, I was pregnant with my daughter within 2 weeks of following the protocol that Coventry put me on.

Charlie holds her baby June on her chest, while wearing a yellow cardigan. The baby is wearing a white baby suit

Womb lining test offers miscarriage hope to women

The test can measure whether an abnormal reaction in the womb could make pregnancy loss more likely.

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c39zvjmmwndo

Happydays2025 · 02/08/2025 14:36

Lemniscate8 · 02/08/2025 09:11

I would suggest just stop testing so early. Women didn't go through this pain when they didn't test until their period was really late. Most conceptions dont establish, and many pregnancy tests give false positives at that time of them month too. Just wait, and find out later. If all women tested that early every time, we would probably find that "chemicals" outnumber established pregnancies maybe 4 or 6 to 1

Please stop with this patronising and very unsympathetic response, the OP said that she knew losses were common but as she says recurrant are not. In fact only 1 in 100 couples experience 3 consecutively and it definitely warrants testing.

Lemniscate8 · 02/08/2025 14:43

Happydays2025 · 02/08/2025 14:36

Please stop with this patronising and very unsympathetic response, the OP said that she knew losses were common but as she says recurrant are not. In fact only 1 in 100 couples experience 3 consecutively and it definitely warrants testing.

I am just trying to point out it is normal. Most conceptions dont become established pregnancies, so far from being 1 in 100, it is virtualy all women who have ever had children, if they had actually tested, would have many more "chemicals" than babies.

People are giving themselves a lot of pain by measuring and counting these. The pain is unnecessary.

Happydays2025 · 02/08/2025 14:51

Lemniscate8 · 02/08/2025 14:43

I am just trying to point out it is normal. Most conceptions dont become established pregnancies, so far from being 1 in 100, it is virtualy all women who have ever had children, if they had actually tested, would have many more "chemicals" than babies.

People are giving themselves a lot of pain by measuring and counting these. The pain is unnecessary.

And if I had listened to your (very uninformed) point of view then I wouldn't have known about the 5 unsuccessful pregnancies, that much is true. But I also wouldn't have had the knowledge about my body to find the help I need and eventually have my daughter. I do not understand why 'in the past we didn't know early' works in this context because medical testing is advancing all the time and why would you not investigate all paths available? The following link is about the testing that is receiving attention and got me my daughter
www.bbc.com/news/articles/c39zvjmmwndo

Lemniscate8 · 02/08/2025 14:55

Happydays2025 · 02/08/2025 14:51

And if I had listened to your (very uninformed) point of view then I wouldn't have known about the 5 unsuccessful pregnancies, that much is true. But I also wouldn't have had the knowledge about my body to find the help I need and eventually have my daughter. I do not understand why 'in the past we didn't know early' works in this context because medical testing is advancing all the time and why would you not investigate all paths available? The following link is about the testing that is receiving attention and got me my daughter
www.bbc.com/news/articles/c39zvjmmwndo

medical testing may be advancing, but the human body isn't. Now, as in the half million years at least, "chemicals" out number successful pregnancies. So asking for success stories after multiple "chemicals" - yes, look around you, EVERYONE is a success story after multiple "chemicals".

Its called a chemical pregnancy because the only definitely there is a chemical, not an embryo.

Happydays2025 · 02/08/2025 14:59

Lemniscate8 · 02/08/2025 14:55

medical testing may be advancing, but the human body isn't. Now, as in the half million years at least, "chemicals" out number successful pregnancies. So asking for success stories after multiple "chemicals" - yes, look around you, EVERYONE is a success story after multiple "chemicals".

Its called a chemical pregnancy because the only definitely there is a chemical, not an embryo.

So the successful trial that has helped thousands get their babies, we should just ignore that should we?
Little point arguing with someone so closed minded.
Maybe consider how helpful you have been to the OP.
My response offered her an avenue to investigate and first hand experience.

Lemniscate8 · 02/08/2025 15:14

Happydays2025 · 02/08/2025 14:59

So the successful trial that has helped thousands get their babies, we should just ignore that should we?
Little point arguing with someone so closed minded.
Maybe consider how helpful you have been to the OP.
My response offered her an avenue to investigate and first hand experience.

shes asked for success stories after many "chemicals" and I have pointed out that most mothers on the planet are success stories after multiple "chemicals" - I would hope that is helpful for her.

just dont test so early, then you don't go through all the pain of "chemicals"

Willitgrow · 02/08/2025 15:20

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Sorry I'm a troll now? Did you read my posts at all?

Willitgrow · 02/08/2025 15:43

Happydays2025 · 02/08/2025 15:22

Sorry I'm a troll now? Did you read my posts at all?

My bad, I meant to @ the other person in the convo. Also apologies for breaching the talk guidelines - not entirely sure how but I very much didn't want to further disrupt the OPs thread. 💐

Sparkle880 · 02/08/2025 18:14

@Happydays2025 thank you so so much for your reply and providing some really interesting information, I do wonder if progesterone might be helpful for me, one thing I have noticed in the last 18 months is a definite shortening in cycles (now about 23 days on average). I’ll take a look at the article you referenced, thanks so much. I’m actually having an appointment next week with the fertility clinic at my local hospital, I don’t know how in-depth they will be as I know from a quick google the clinic you were under is amazing and it sounds like they were so thorough. I guess I just don’t know what testing I should prioritise asking for first. I am so glad that you had a successful pregnancy so soon after the testing!
@Lemniscate8 I appreciate your opinion and yes maybe in the short term it would save me some heartache but it doesn’t help me in the long run in achieving my desire to grow my family. After 3 (possibly 4) consecutive chemical pregnancies I am pretty sure I might benefit from some medical intervention and as @Happydays2025 mentioned there are so many medical advancements and it’s only natural in these situations to look for answers!

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Ginnygi · 02/08/2025 18:15

Lemniscate8 · 02/08/2025 09:11

I would suggest just stop testing so early. Women didn't go through this pain when they didn't test until their period was really late. Most conceptions dont establish, and many pregnancy tests give false positives at that time of them month too. Just wait, and find out later. If all women tested that early every time, we would probably find that "chemicals" outnumber established pregnancies maybe 4 or 6 to 1

Terrible and patronising response. If you don't know the facts, just don't speak.

Happydays2025 · 02/08/2025 18:43

Sparkle880 · 02/08/2025 18:14

@Happydays2025 thank you so so much for your reply and providing some really interesting information, I do wonder if progesterone might be helpful for me, one thing I have noticed in the last 18 months is a definite shortening in cycles (now about 23 days on average). I’ll take a look at the article you referenced, thanks so much. I’m actually having an appointment next week with the fertility clinic at my local hospital, I don’t know how in-depth they will be as I know from a quick google the clinic you were under is amazing and it sounds like they were so thorough. I guess I just don’t know what testing I should prioritise asking for first. I am so glad that you had a successful pregnancy so soon after the testing!
@Lemniscate8 I appreciate your opinion and yes maybe in the short term it would save me some heartache but it doesn’t help me in the long run in achieving my desire to grow my family. After 3 (possibly 4) consecutive chemical pregnancies I am pretty sure I might benefit from some medical intervention and as @Happydays2025 mentioned there are so many medical advancements and it’s only natural in these situations to look for answers!

Wishing you all the best for your appointment, hopefully you are on to something with the short cycles and they are able to offer you some help 🤞

Sparkle880 · 02/08/2025 22:51

@Happydays2025 thanks so much

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