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Difficult In-Laws

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FloofMummy85 · 14/12/2024 06:50

This is my first time posting so my apologies if I’ve posted under the wrong topic, or if I’m not following a guidelined format.

I’m 38 weeks pregnant, and struggling with my in-laws. For context, I’m 39 yrs old, my husband is 34, and we’ve been together 6 years. We had an early loss previously, but this is our first pregnancy to get this far.

My in-laws could not have been nicer to me at the beginning of our relationship, but once we got engaged everything changed. I had bought my own home while single, and immediately his parents started saying he needed to get his name on the deeds asap. When planning the wedding they refused to travel to certain destinations as MIL did not want to be without cigarettes, insisted all of their siblings (18 between them) plus siblings partners, kids, and grandkids were all invited, MIL wanted to wear same colour as bridal party and FIL wanted to dress casual, and both openly admitted that they weren’t very excited about the wedding but would have been excited if it had been my SIL (DH just has the one sibling). I tried to involved my MIL by inviting her to dress fittings, to get nails, hair, and make up done - all of which she refused - and bought her jewelry to mark the day. She got quite drunk, cried throughout the ceremony and dinner, and kept shouting out that I was taking her boy away from her.

MIL & FIL are still married but live separate lives with very little communication or time spent together, and MIL has always been heavily reliant on DH for her emotional support. Last year at a family wedding MIL was drunk by the time speeches commenced, and kept shouting “that’s my boy” while my DH made the best man speech. Shortly after, we gifted her & my FIL a photo collage from our wedding, and when we next visited, one of the photos of the 4 of us had been replaced with a photo of them with my SIL & her girlfriend (whom she had only been dating a couple of months by our wedding). I was shocked but didn’t say anything. A couple of weeks later it was SIL’s girlfriend’s birthday, and my in-laws drunkenly took to social media and posted a video wishing their favourite DIL (their words) a happy birthday, and how much they love her. They also drunkenly sent the video to my DH, who was quite hurt by it too. They ‘forgot’ about my birthday a few weeks later.

With our pregnancy, when we told my parents (who already have grandchildren from my siblings) they cried they were so happy for us. They have been more supportive throughout than they have ever been before, always checking in and offering help without being intrusive. My parents are retired and have a modest living, but wanted to help in some way, especially as it’s our first child, so they purchased the buggy for us, along with smaller items like baby care products, clothes etc. We live a couple of hours from my parents, but they set aside a day every weekend, and have come to help us out with putting the nursery together and any other help we may need. My sister is a sole parent in a minimum wage job who bought us our crib as she wanted to buy something substantial for our baby. My DH mentioned the generosity of my family to his parents, who both still work full time and are significantly financially better off than my parents, and they were horrified that my family were buying brand new items for our baby. My MIL said she saw a crib online that has only been used twice previously and was free to a good home, and that she could gift us that if we wanted. Both of my in-laws said that they don’t believe in buying anything brand new for babies or children, that it is a complete waste of money, that they will get baby gifts from their local charity shop, and would we not put our hands out and ask family and friends for hand me downs instead. I was shocked as if we or they were very much struggling I would understand, but neither we or they are.

My in-laws live much closer to us, and haven’t offered any help, which is a relief for me but I feel bad for my DH. When we told them that I’m pregnant, they both made a face, and my MIL asked, and I quote, were we “taking the f*king pss”. She refused to believe our scan was legit, claiming we took it off the internet, said she’s too young to be a granny (she’s 65, and my parents are 70), and that having kids will ruin our lives and she lives she never had kids. My FIL just sat there in silence with a blank look on his face. This will be their first grandchild, and my DH was so excited to tell them, so I felt sad for him. My MIL called two days later, saying that they reacted the way they did because of how my DH told them our news, that he should have brought them out for a fancy dinner and made a huge fuss of them.

Throughout the pregnancy I’ve been really unwell - nausea, vomiting, headaches, insomnia, loss of appetite, weight loss, anemia, carpal tunnel syndrome, sciatica, gestational diabetes, preeclampsia. I’ve spent much of it at home, needing to be near a bed or bathroom for the most part, and my in-laws have been vocal of their anger at this, feeling that sickness in pregnancy is normal and not an excuse, and that I’m using it as an excuse to avoid bringing them out for dinner on a weekly basis. They have high expectations of my DH & I, which my own family would never put on me. When they visit our home, they make themselves too comfortable eg they’ll take their shoes & socks off, put their feet up on the coffee table, tell me to make them a cup of tea and a sandwich and crisps, switch on the tv, and just lay on our sofa for hours.

Now that my due date is almost here, my in-laws have said that they want to visit me & baby in hospital - I’m getting a c-section so have told DH I don’t want any visitors other than my own parents. They also said that they cannot wait to start taking baby for overnight stays - this is where my biggest issue lies. My MIL has a substance dependency. She smokes 60 cigarettes per day, and has been smoking for almost 60 years. She has said she would rather die than quit smoking. Myself & DH are non-smokers, and I grew up in a non-smoking household, and my parents never drank alcohol around me until I was 14. My MIL also is a self confessed binge drinker - she drinks on average 5 nights per week, usually 2 - 3 bottles of wine to herself, and ends up having to be carried to bed. She comes from a long line of alcoholics and substance abusers, and she has a constant smell of stale cigarettes and alcohol, as does their home. That is not an environment that I want my child exposed to, and I do not feel safe leaving a child in hers or my FILs care - they’re too selfish and irresponsible.

I’ve vocalized my feelings to my DH, who not only understands but feels the same way. However, after years of emotional manipulation from his mother, and mental abuse from his father, he’s afraid to put certain boundaries in place with them because he says they won’t see it from our perspective, and they’ll get really angry and tell all of my DHs family how awful we are to them. My MIL also has a tendency to start crying and say “I can’t deal with you picking on me” whenever confronted about her poor behaviour.

They have caused me so much stress and anxiety that I’m being treated by the mental health team and am now taking anti-anxiety medication. I guess if anyone has any similar experience or advise it would be really helpful, I feel I’m at the end of my tether with them now.

Apologies for such a long post, and thank you for reading it through if you’ve made it to here!

OP posts:
MamaNell · 14/12/2024 07:01

You are the mother now. You need to do what is best for your child. If your DH is unable to stand up for himself/ you/ his child with people that are clearly unkind and potentially dangerous around an infant you need to do it. And not feel guilty for that.

madametav · 14/12/2024 07:05

Wow. I moan about my in laws but this is another level.

You NEED to put clear boundaries in place now and you and your DH need to be a united front.

readyforroundthree · 14/12/2024 07:05

Hi Op,
I've read numerous stories on here with posters experiencing issues with their in-laws, but this is horrific and appalling behaviour on their part.
If I'm honest I don't think this relationship is ever going to improve and if I was you and your DH I would cut ties. I know people feel as if they have a duty to put up with poor behaviour from family, but this is nothing other than toxic and emotional abuse.
You say you are already receiving mental health support over this for the stress they are causing you and I understand you want to be there to support your DH, but he also needs help to stop this cycle of behaviour.
They get away with it because they have been allowed to for so long, but you have to do whatever is necessary to protect your own sanity and your baby. I am in complete agreement with you that the baby goes nowhere near their house, tbh I wouldn't even want them anywhere near me or my child ever again. Family relationships are complicated but your DH needs to put his foot down and end this madness.

curious79 · 14/12/2024 07:15

Just don’t let your new baby go to them overnight. My Dad is absolutely lovely, principled, fun, well meaning but a bit crap with young children - impatient, forgetful. My DD didn’t stay overnight with him until she was c7

Your MiL is absolutely not fit to have any children around - ever, at any age - and particularly not a baby with the drinking or smoking. Combined it’s a bloody disaster

you don’t need to ‘draw a boundary’, you just don’t ever let it happen or need it to happen. Your baby will get second hand smoke just from her presence

CadoAvo · 14/12/2024 07:15

Oh my, you poor thing. Assuming they have no redeeming qualities? I'd be wanting to go no contact with them but understand this is more difficult when it's your partners parents.

The smoking thing is definitely an issue, I wouldn't be having my new child going round there. I have friends who would take their son to see his granny who was a chain smoker, she was asked and obliged to ensuring she had her windows open for a couple hours before they arrived. And the visits only lasted a couple hours anyway.

You really need to get some boundaries figured out with your partner, put them in place and stick to them. Your partner really needs to be on your side too for it to work.

Soontobe60 · 14/12/2024 07:26

Your MIL is an alcoholic and as such your baby should never be alone with her. As a heavy smoker, she should also never be allowed to hold your baby as she will be covered in smoke.
If your DH cant see this, speak to your midwife and ask them to point out the dangers to him.

Zapx · 14/12/2024 07:34

Well… that sounds awful. Putting it bluntly, your DH needs to find a backbone. Much easier to keep consistent boundaries from the start. If it’s not good for baby, it doesn’t happen! Overnight stays? Nope! Taking baby without you guys being there? Nope! Visiting in hospital? Absolutely not. Totally unnecessary and you’ll be recovering and getting to know your baby. I really wish you all the best OP.

Smittenkitchen · 14/12/2024 07:35

Hi OP. First of all I wish you all the best with the remainder of your pregnancy, it sounds like it has been so tough for you and more than enough to deal with just with that. Absolutely ridiculous comments that it's in some way unreasonable to feel unwell during pregnancy, they have no idea how you feel and are clearly completely lacking in empathy.
I read most of your post open-mouthed, it is absolutely shocking. It occurs to me that quite a lot of the behaviour could be attributed to MIL's alcohol abuse, plus probably narcissism. Such a peculiar reaction to your pregnancy announcement, what on earth?? Sounds like there's a golden child dynamic going on with SIL.
I really feel that it would be best to have a much more distant relationship with them, just only seeing them at extended family parties, for example. You obviously don't enjoy or feel comfortable having them in your home and they haven't earned the right to be invited, honestly.
The comments about having your DC overnight are also ridiculous and to be ignored/shut down if they persist. Even my generally kind and reasonable MIL kept suggesting that they wanted to take my DD overnight from when she was very small even though I was bf and did so for years and it was never going to happen. It's obviously a complete no go in your situation as it would be an actively dangerous situation for your DC.
I think you already know all of this, the real thing is your DH starting to establish boundaries with them which he really needs to do now to protect your DC and you at this vulnerable time. Sounds like he could he do with some work with a good therapist to help him work through the feelings of powerlessness and guilt when he tries to resist them. It sounds like they would be abusive if you try to defy them which is why the only way is likely to be LC.
I really do wish you all the best, neither you nor your DH nor your DC deserve this awful treatment.

CSSL7 · 14/12/2024 07:45

FloofMummy85 · 14/12/2024 06:50

This is my first time posting so my apologies if I’ve posted under the wrong topic, or if I’m not following a guidelined format.

I’m 38 weeks pregnant, and struggling with my in-laws. For context, I’m 39 yrs old, my husband is 34, and we’ve been together 6 years. We had an early loss previously, but this is our first pregnancy to get this far.

My in-laws could not have been nicer to me at the beginning of our relationship, but once we got engaged everything changed. I had bought my own home while single, and immediately his parents started saying he needed to get his name on the deeds asap. When planning the wedding they refused to travel to certain destinations as MIL did not want to be without cigarettes, insisted all of their siblings (18 between them) plus siblings partners, kids, and grandkids were all invited, MIL wanted to wear same colour as bridal party and FIL wanted to dress casual, and both openly admitted that they weren’t very excited about the wedding but would have been excited if it had been my SIL (DH just has the one sibling). I tried to involved my MIL by inviting her to dress fittings, to get nails, hair, and make up done - all of which she refused - and bought her jewelry to mark the day. She got quite drunk, cried throughout the ceremony and dinner, and kept shouting out that I was taking her boy away from her.

MIL & FIL are still married but live separate lives with very little communication or time spent together, and MIL has always been heavily reliant on DH for her emotional support. Last year at a family wedding MIL was drunk by the time speeches commenced, and kept shouting “that’s my boy” while my DH made the best man speech. Shortly after, we gifted her & my FIL a photo collage from our wedding, and when we next visited, one of the photos of the 4 of us had been replaced with a photo of them with my SIL & her girlfriend (whom she had only been dating a couple of months by our wedding). I was shocked but didn’t say anything. A couple of weeks later it was SIL’s girlfriend’s birthday, and my in-laws drunkenly took to social media and posted a video wishing their favourite DIL (their words) a happy birthday, and how much they love her. They also drunkenly sent the video to my DH, who was quite hurt by it too. They ‘forgot’ about my birthday a few weeks later.

With our pregnancy, when we told my parents (who already have grandchildren from my siblings) they cried they were so happy for us. They have been more supportive throughout than they have ever been before, always checking in and offering help without being intrusive. My parents are retired and have a modest living, but wanted to help in some way, especially as it’s our first child, so they purchased the buggy for us, along with smaller items like baby care products, clothes etc. We live a couple of hours from my parents, but they set aside a day every weekend, and have come to help us out with putting the nursery together and any other help we may need. My sister is a sole parent in a minimum wage job who bought us our crib as she wanted to buy something substantial for our baby. My DH mentioned the generosity of my family to his parents, who both still work full time and are significantly financially better off than my parents, and they were horrified that my family were buying brand new items for our baby. My MIL said she saw a crib online that has only been used twice previously and was free to a good home, and that she could gift us that if we wanted. Both of my in-laws said that they don’t believe in buying anything brand new for babies or children, that it is a complete waste of money, that they will get baby gifts from their local charity shop, and would we not put our hands out and ask family and friends for hand me downs instead. I was shocked as if we or they were very much struggling I would understand, but neither we or they are.

My in-laws live much closer to us, and haven’t offered any help, which is a relief for me but I feel bad for my DH. When we told them that I’m pregnant, they both made a face, and my MIL asked, and I quote, were we “taking the f*king pss”. She refused to believe our scan was legit, claiming we took it off the internet, said she’s too young to be a granny (she’s 65, and my parents are 70), and that having kids will ruin our lives and she lives she never had kids. My FIL just sat there in silence with a blank look on his face. This will be their first grandchild, and my DH was so excited to tell them, so I felt sad for him. My MIL called two days later, saying that they reacted the way they did because of how my DH told them our news, that he should have brought them out for a fancy dinner and made a huge fuss of them.

Throughout the pregnancy I’ve been really unwell - nausea, vomiting, headaches, insomnia, loss of appetite, weight loss, anemia, carpal tunnel syndrome, sciatica, gestational diabetes, preeclampsia. I’ve spent much of it at home, needing to be near a bed or bathroom for the most part, and my in-laws have been vocal of their anger at this, feeling that sickness in pregnancy is normal and not an excuse, and that I’m using it as an excuse to avoid bringing them out for dinner on a weekly basis. They have high expectations of my DH & I, which my own family would never put on me. When they visit our home, they make themselves too comfortable eg they’ll take their shoes & socks off, put their feet up on the coffee table, tell me to make them a cup of tea and a sandwich and crisps, switch on the tv, and just lay on our sofa for hours.

Now that my due date is almost here, my in-laws have said that they want to visit me & baby in hospital - I’m getting a c-section so have told DH I don’t want any visitors other than my own parents. They also said that they cannot wait to start taking baby for overnight stays - this is where my biggest issue lies. My MIL has a substance dependency. She smokes 60 cigarettes per day, and has been smoking for almost 60 years. She has said she would rather die than quit smoking. Myself & DH are non-smokers, and I grew up in a non-smoking household, and my parents never drank alcohol around me until I was 14. My MIL also is a self confessed binge drinker - she drinks on average 5 nights per week, usually 2 - 3 bottles of wine to herself, and ends up having to be carried to bed. She comes from a long line of alcoholics and substance abusers, and she has a constant smell of stale cigarettes and alcohol, as does their home. That is not an environment that I want my child exposed to, and I do not feel safe leaving a child in hers or my FILs care - they’re too selfish and irresponsible.

I’ve vocalized my feelings to my DH, who not only understands but feels the same way. However, after years of emotional manipulation from his mother, and mental abuse from his father, he’s afraid to put certain boundaries in place with them because he says they won’t see it from our perspective, and they’ll get really angry and tell all of my DHs family how awful we are to them. My MIL also has a tendency to start crying and say “I can’t deal with you picking on me” whenever confronted about her poor behaviour.

They have caused me so much stress and anxiety that I’m being treated by the mental health team and am now taking anti-anxiety medication. I guess if anyone has any similar experience or advise it would be really helpful, I feel I’m at the end of my tether with them now.

Apologies for such a long post, and thank you for reading it through if you’ve made it to here!

I have a friend who was a people pleaser - I used to have to point out when people treated her badly. Since having a baby, she is NOT a people pleaser anymore. She has boundaries. She doesn’t take crap from people. She has no time for childish little mind games. I truly hope when you have your baby you and your husband prioritise the baby over the in laws and the baby changes your mindset. Unfortunately, it’s your baby they will traumatise. The issues your husband has with boundaries will become the babies.

I truly believe no contact is the only reasonable option - you really are not losing anything positive from your life.

Foundpresents · 14/12/2024 07:50

You need to go no or very low contact with these psychos. It’ll ruin your motherhood and marriage if you don’t.

But also if you do - you’ll be much happier, better mental health, a safe child.. do it for them!

Sugargliderwombat · 14/12/2024 08:22

Wow! They're clearly awful. I think having a baby means they are no longer your priority, you no longer need to please them.

I think you need to start limiting how often they are in your home making themselves comfortable but things like the overnight stays tackle once the baby is actually here. When it comes to it your OH will probably actually see sense.

CountFucula · 14/12/2024 08:38

They sound unhinged (although they are right about buying new baby stuff - it is a waste of resources and money).
The wedding stuff, the way they treat you and the drinking and smoking sounds exactly like my in laws and let me tell you how it played out after we had our first baby.
At first we stayed super polite (but talked about how weird and worried we were about their behaviour to each other) they became needy and obsessed with our baby ….but only how it relates to them - looked like them, reminds them of their baby etc
They ignored boundaries. They had a large breed badly trained jumpy dog which we asked them to shut away before we visited with the newborn, they said they would then let it out as ‘he wanted to meet his new sister’. MIL took the baby who was only 4 weeks to their neighbours house without asking - just picked her up and went, for an hour. Didn’t invite me along. Smoked constantly.
We kept them at arms reach. Had more children who they completely ignored. Only interested in the first one. One day they visited and started smoking around the newest baby. I asked her not to and she stormed out. She rang days later expecting an apology from me. It wasn’t coming and I said no smoking and no dogs around the children. She called me an uptight bitch.
I said, OK. And blocked her. She doesn’t see her grandchildren, she doesn’t see her son. They are lonely and sad.
Don’t expect them to ever change so get boundaries in place now and mean them.

LemonDrizzle44 · 14/12/2024 10:12

I'm surprised you're still in contact with these people!!!! You (or more your DH) need to put in boundaries now before baby arrives. These people show little regard for your feelings, I don't see why you should do the same for theirs!

The smoking for me would be an absolute no! Second and third hand smoke is dangerous for newborns and increases the risk of SIDS. No way would I be taking my baby to her house or even let her visit unless she had been smoke free for several hours and changed her clothes before holding baby (a rule I was prepared to put in place with my own ILs)

umdontdothat · 14/12/2024 11:29

In the short term OP read up on 'grey rock' technique and start implementing it. Your husband needs to tell you less or ideally nothing about his nutcase mother's carryings on.
You don't need or want that shit,you are growing a human being now and being zen is your priority. Look at how severely this has affected you-driving you to need anti-anxiety meds in pregnancy. All communication going forward is through your husband. They are nothing to do with you and can't be trusted.
Longer term, your husband will eventually wake up and smell the coffee. Model good calm reasonable behaviour and his parent's behaviour will be so starkly different, he'd be blind not to notice.
Grey rock, leave communication to husband and this is a her/them problem, keep at arm's length, from a bemused distant observer vantage point. . Other family members who are emotionally intelligent, will see what's going on so just let her continue to make a show of herself. Good luck OP.

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