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help! Feeling unsupported 2nd pregnancy

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AvidTealFox · 23/11/2024 07:00

This will be a long post, which I have created on a new user (I'm a very active user otherwise and need the anonymity). I just need... some support and outside perspective, I guess. I will try to write as concisely and void of emotion as possible, but since I am distraught, there's bound to be some venting.
Some facts: I'm in my third trimester with my second baby, baby number is 2YO. When I was pregnant first time, I graduated from my Master's degree and then stayed home after that. I did start another design degree (2 weeks after baby was born), but have been doing that part time.
Baby nr 1 is wonderful and healthy and bright and just generally a fantastic child. I had a natural birth and no complications during pregnancy, except mental health it really caught me off guard what a transition it really was. I really struggled with having my husband's support. We have been married for 10 years and he has always been kind and loving but it didn't feel that way during pregnancy at all. I distinctly felt that he didn't care at all about planning or preparing for the baby or supporting me (emotionally!!!). E.g we had a birth class when I was 6-7 mos pregnant and he would sit there, scrolling his phone. I brought it up with him and he was genuinely surprised -- like "oh I didn't know I was expected to participate".
Postpartum, then, was quite a shock to me. He was very supportive with the baby (it took me two whole months to establish breastfeeding and he was helping with syringe feedings etc). He is still very caring, has a good relationship, plays with him etc. But towards me, the care was either not there or he was downright mean. I think it was about 3rd day after hospital or so when he told me to "fuck off" (can't remember to what) or that I do nothing. We live in a 3rd floor walkup and have a really heavy stroller (the Priam), which he expected me to lift all the way up and down (I injured my back as a result, took 1,5 years to heal). When he finally made room in the basement, he was like "oh should have done that earlier, it's so comfy now". Lots of stuff like that.
I have brought up the traumatic postpartum (and pregnancy) time several times (peacefully) and tried to emphasise in every possible way that this cannot repeat with later pregnancies. His core idea is that he is the sole supporter of the family AND he helps with the baby, so what more do I want. The way I see it is that emotional support is not something I can substitute by thinking oh ok well he works so I guess I'll tackle that on my own. But I did get therapy at the time, which helped a bit (but not much) and I was mainly grieving what I had thought postpartum would be like. I just wanted kindness, tbh.
Fast forward to now. He really wanted a second child so did I and I felt fairly confident that it wouldn't repeat. Somehow, however, it's even worse. It's definitely worse for me from the fact that I have been quite isolated as a SAHM for 2 years, I'm still nursing (which makes the pregnancy a lot harder, let me tell you), we have no nannies etc except my mom helps out maybe once a month or so. I'm exhausted. This time, he basically shows no interest towards me or the baby, but when I bring it up, he INSISTS that he is constantly asking how I am. I have tried to talk about baby accommodations (like where he is going to sleep), but he gets angry at me and says I'm "requesting" things. Or that I am "just nesting" and should get over it. As in, not nest or want to prepare for the baby.
We have a lot more expenses than last pregnancy -- we bought a cottage and a car and have some other added expenses, which definitely makes it more stressful than last time (obviously the toddler as well), but he seems to be very lax about it and ridiculing me (or getting angry) when I bring it up as a fear. I haven't had a break or a holiday in a year, but he insisted we do a long trip to his family abroad when I was 6mos (for thousands of dollars) and then we had another trip to join him on a longer business trip. When I want to discuss these expenses, he says I'm trying to stop him from seeing his family (which is NOT the case!!!!!). I feel like wanting to discuss double strollers or a new car seat (because, you know, we need a second one) is an irrational wish on my part, not a normal part of family planning.
Yesterday he came back from another business trip, for which he left with no groceries done so I ordered takeout for me and toddler (probably important to note that I have no car or drivers license). When he came back, he said we can't move furniture this weekend (to prepare for the baby room), as we can't afford renting a truck. Since it's a really, really inexpensive ride (10-15 dollars), I was a bit shocked and asked him what it means. Well, yeah, the money is spent so we have to sit tight until the salary comes in. I got very upset and told him this greatly affects my feelings of security and safety to which he replied, oh I'm sorry you can't be a takeout princess. It triggered me greatly so I've been crying for 2 days now (he doesn't come or comfort me when I cry, already before having kids) and it has just become so crystal clear how ALONE I am. I have no close friends left. My only other adult contact apart from my husband is the courses I take at uni (go there, do the class, come back). I try to be active in online hobby groups to which he says he has to work and I can just lie around and chat with people (or that I can watch movies because I nurse). But I dont' care about movies, I would much rather take human contact!!!
I just feel constantly so hurt and that triggers massive guilt because I feel like this emotional stress is also harming my baby, which obviously makes me spiral even deeper with guilt. I literally have noone to talk to -- I can't talk to him about this and I have no other close contacts left, so during past months, I have been talking to... ChatGPT. Yeah I know, but what can I do? I have only now decided to reach out here and ask for outer perspective (btw also something chatgpt recommended).
Is it really irrational to expect your partner to be emotionally supportive? Or is he really being supportive and hormones mess me up (this is what he says -- that our home situation doesn't need fixing, i'm just nesting or that I'm not sad, it's just hormones etc). Could it be the case and will it get better after pregnancy? Am I just really hormonal this time? Will it affect my baby? I feel like it's making it so much harder to get a connection with him and feel good and serene, it's like I'm fighting for my life every day. How can I be less lonely/alone? Has anyone had success with journalling? This is what ChatGPT suggests but honestly I'm so exhausted I'm not sure I could. How could I show him that I don't do "nothing", that actually pregnancy and breastfeeding are quite hard? Homewise, his chores are filling the dishwasher (this I really never do) and laundry ca once a week (towels, linen etc gets picked up and delivered by a service). Evening meals are more or less equal, breakfasts and lunches obviously on me. I found "Fair Play" cards, has anyone had success?
And, overall, can you give some helpful advice on how to get into a more positive mindset to feel better with pregnancy and establish a connection with my baby? I'm thinking of hiring a doula (who would also come to birth instead of my husband), but I'm basically running against the wall trying to think of ways how to make my situation better. Like, I'm not talking about footrubs which he does reluctantly do for a couple of min if I ask repeatedly or when I'm very swollen but just... being seen, I guess. Or what I can use for self-care? Any advice is greatly appreciated, I feel so alone.

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cheerfulaf · 23/11/2024 07:18

Oh OP this is all really tough. First of I’m sorry you’re having a hard time, none of your situation sounds easy. Just regarding the journaling, I did it when I felt very lonely and it actually made me feel worse! Seeing on paper how sad my life was didn’t help at all, just my experience of it.

In brutal honesty your partner sounds really shit. He might be a dad but he’s not a partner at all and your relationship is modelling to your child what a relationship looks like so I’d be mindful of that. You’ve told him how you feel and he doesn’t care, sorry to sound insensitive but that is the reality here, you can’t make him behave in a completely different way, you also can’t programme empathy into someone. I’m currently pregnant and my other half has gone above and beyond with support, I’ve slacked on housework, I’m crying a lot, I’m snappy, I’m generally an arsehole and he keeps telling me “it’s ok, your making my baby”. I hate telling you this because it’s a kick in the teeth but I just wanted you to know that these men do exist and it’s 100% what you should be receiving right now

my advice would be to focus on you, your little ones and building your life independently. Are you able to meet mums at baby groups etc? If you can’t leave him them at least just give up and use that effort on yourself for now

Also just a heads up, I think you might get some harsh “leave the bastard” replies. Reading this from an outside perspective is really shocking and I don’t think others will mince their words in telling you that

AvidTealFox · 23/11/2024 08:22

Yeah.. so I stayed up half the night trying to budget for anything and his response was that he wants to "split assets" and that I "make it impossible to be with me". Seems like you were right.

I don't know how I will get through this or what will happen to my kids. Just, completely heartbroken.

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cheerfulaf · 23/11/2024 09:43

when you say “split assets” do you mean as in you’re separating? That’s a shitty thing for him to say but at least if he feels like that it means he’s guilt free! He’s been the perfect husband and you’re just demanding 🙄

AvidTealFox · 23/11/2024 09:55

To be honest, I don't know what that means. I have no income so there's not really any "assets" to split from my side. It also distresses me that he can say stuff like that - I mean I would not be able to threaten with "splitting assets", so it (whatever that means), so it feels like an unnecessary powerplay towards an already vulnerable - and crying! pregnant woman, mother of your child etc.

Honestly since it's so late in the pregnancy, my only worry is how this affects my baby. I've now been crying non-stop for 3 days. I tried taking a bit of valerian (was recommended for anxiety last pregnancy by my doctor), sniffing lavender oil, taking a hot shower, even watched some silly Youtube video supposed to calm down, but nothing seems to help, the tears just keep flowing.
I have written to a pregnancy crisis counsellor though, and to a doula for help with birth preparation and postpartum.

I did all that I could to keep stress away during my first pregnancy and I just feel so much guilt for my second now that he gets such a lousy experience. Then I feel maybe he will be problematic because of that and that thought causes an even bigger guilt spree... So yeah, full on nasty spiral going on here. I'm starting to understand why people with nervous breakdowns get sedated.

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