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Talk about every stage of pregnancy, from early symptoms to preparing for birth.

Elderberry syrup - worried!

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Starry4321 · 06/11/2024 20:49

Just found out I am pregnant (4/5 weeks) with baby no2. We have had lots of colds in our house and I’ve been taking an elderberry syrup (sweet bee organics) 1 tablespoon per day. I googled it and seeing conflicting results like it can stimulate the immune system and cause problems in pregnancy? I’ll stop taking it but feeling a bit concerned as the pregnant in such an early stage.

Pic of ingredients do you think this could have cause any issues? I know I am probably overthinking this but I’ll probably stop anyway

Elderberry syrup - worried!
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Calliopespa · 07/11/2024 11:50

sel2223 · 06/11/2024 21:11

For goodness sake, what an utterly ridiculous statement.

You would have to consume an excessive amount of ginger and turmeric for it to carry even the slightest risk so stop scaremongering.

A gram of ginger in pregnancy is completely safe and it is widely recommended to help with sickness and nausea in pregnancy. Small amounts of turmeric can also help alleviate some pregnancy symptoms.

Both are perfectly safe in moderation

Edited

I agree op: moderation is the key. Don’t have more, but I’m sure what you had was fine. In terms of the embryo itself, as opposed to contractions etc, remember it is tucked away with a egg sac at present and not taking your current diet on board yet.

Leavemealone2024 · 07/11/2024 12:26

DarlingClementine85 · 07/11/2024 11:48

You seem to be taking this quite personally when my comment clearly states that, for me, ginger brings on my periods but other pregnant women may differ. And that it's safe in small quantities but caution should be exercised. Please "do better" when speaking to people whose opinions differ slightly from your own.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4755634/

The gist of this scientific review is that ginger in small quantities and over a short duration is absolutely fine in pregnancy, which is what we both agree on. I however disagree that it should be pushed as a totally pregnancy-safe ingredient with no intake limit.

OP, I hope you know I'm discussing ginger doses in pregnancy in general, not the elderflower syrup that's clearly fine and contains miniscule amounts of ginger 😊

The paper is about ginger for nausea in the first trimester....nothing new here
Look hard enough and anything could be connected to miscarriage
Pregnancy supplements contain ginger sometimes
Believe what you like but it's a crock of shit and utterly irresponsible to harp on about such anxiety inducing rubbish to a pregnant woman looking for a little bit of reassurance that she hasn't hurt her baby, which clearly she won't have.
You should do better.

DarlingClementine85 · 07/11/2024 12:28

Is this "do better" business a new thing, because it's a bit silly!

Leavemealone2024 · 07/11/2024 12:31

DarlingClementine85 · 07/11/2024 12:28

Is this "do better" business a new thing, because it's a bit silly!

Calm down love, cup of ginger tea for you

DarlingClementine85 · 07/11/2024 12:35

Leavemealone2024 · 07/11/2024 12:31

Calm down love, cup of ginger tea for you

😆

Okayornot · 07/11/2024 12:37

Pregnancy supplements contain ginger sometimes

They do indeed. I took them all the way through my pregnancies, on the recommendation of my GP!

sel2223 · 07/11/2024 12:44

DarlingClementine85 · 07/11/2024 11:48

You seem to be taking this quite personally when my comment clearly states that, for me, ginger brings on my periods but other pregnant women may differ. And that it's safe in small quantities but caution should be exercised. Please "do better" when speaking to people whose opinions differ slightly from your own.

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4755634/

The gist of this scientific review is that ginger in small quantities and over a short duration is absolutely fine in pregnancy, which is what we both agree on. I however disagree that it should be pushed as a totally pregnancy-safe ingredient with no intake limit.

OP, I hope you know I'm discussing ginger doses in pregnancy in general, not the elderflower syrup that's clearly fine and contains miniscule amounts of ginger 😊

Incredibly. the article you now choose to post is one that says what the rest of us have been saying throughout the thread?

So your reason for hijacking the OP's post with your scaremongering was what exactly? You've said yourself the elderberry syrup is fine.

Honestly, have you got nothing better to do?

AltitudeCheck · 07/11/2024 12:46

All those ingredients are present in foods and recipes that are consumed around the world in all stages of pregnancy so in normal quantities are highly unlikely to be a concern.

If there was more than a miniscule amount of ginger (or any of the other highly flavoured aromatic ingredients) in it the syrup would be revolting!

I would be more concerned by the info on their web site that suggests "Amazingly, one 145g cup is packed with 870 mg of vitamin A, 406 mg of potassium, 52.2 mg of vitamin C, 9 mg of folate, 55 mg of calcium, and 2.32 mg of iron."

I hope they have got the vitamin A info wrong... the recommendation for Vit A is max 1500 micrograms (1.5mg) https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vitamins-and-minerals/vitamin-a/ and less in pregnancy. Hopefully they just have the units wrong on their web page (no idea why they give the vitamin content for a 145mg cup full of the stuff though!)

nhs.uk

Vitamins and minerals - Vitamin A

Find out about what vitamin A (also known as retinol) does, how much you need, and good food sources of it.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/vitamins-and-minerals/vitamin-a

sel2223 · 07/11/2024 12:47

Leavemealone2024 · 07/11/2024 12:26

The paper is about ginger for nausea in the first trimester....nothing new here
Look hard enough and anything could be connected to miscarriage
Pregnancy supplements contain ginger sometimes
Believe what you like but it's a crock of shit and utterly irresponsible to harp on about such anxiety inducing rubbish to a pregnant woman looking for a little bit of reassurance that she hasn't hurt her baby, which clearly she won't have.
You should do better.

This 👏

DarlingClementine85 · 07/11/2024 12:54

Please see my initial post that caused you such consternation: Ginger is proven to cause uterine contractions. It is safe in pregnancy, but in smaller doses than many women are aware, so it's entirely possible to take too much if you drink a few cups a day.

Not sure why you've chosen to attack me, or the other poster who mentioned the same, but it's ok.

sel2223 · 07/11/2024 13:10

I'm sorry @DarlingClementine85 , did I hurt your feelings disagreeing with you and calling you out for coming onto a pregnancy forum spouting rubbish and causing unnecessary worry to a poster looking for some reassurance.?

I can't imagine feeling 'attacked' just because someone questioned my responses on an Internet thread but maybe that's just me and my leathery thick skin.

The issue I have is when people like you come on and start throwing around words such as 'proven', 'fact', 'science' to back up your own beliefs about herbal remedies or whatever else it might be on any given day without any reliable or official evidence to support such claims. Sharing links to obscure websites as if that suddenly makes your claims irrefutable.

The post was a simple question about Elderberry syrup, what on earth makes you and the other poster want to go off on such a random tangent harping on about how dangerous ginger is? Seriously, answer the question or scroll on. Scaremongering is unnecessary and unwelcome.

Leavemealone2024 · 07/11/2024 13:23

DarlingClementine85 · 07/11/2024 12:54

Please see my initial post that caused you such consternation: Ginger is proven to cause uterine contractions. It is safe in pregnancy, but in smaller doses than many women are aware, so it's entirely possible to take too much if you drink a few cups a day.

Not sure why you've chosen to attack me, or the other poster who mentioned the same, but it's ok.

Love it. Just back away from the thread and accept you did no good here.
I really wish people would think about the poster before they throw out random comments and derail advice into scaremongering or general disagreement. It happened to me a few times on here while I was pregnant.
You got called out, that's what happened.

DarlingClementine85 · 07/11/2024 13:36

@sel2223 This is such an interesting example of how online discourse can become so polarising. I doubt it would have escalated if we were chatting face to face. If you check out our previous messages you can see that we actually agreed throughout. We both agree that ginger is safe in pregnancy in small doses. So I thought at first that your comment was a genuine apology 😆 Let's leave this here, but it's been interesting, and for me it's been a timely reminder of how dangerous the internet can be for polarising opinions and creating rage.

@Starry4321 OP as I mentioned before (which PP missed), the elderberry syrup is absolutely safe, and I was talking about high doses of ginger - more than 1/2 a teaspoon daily which your syrup doesn't have.

sel2223 · 07/11/2024 13:42

DarlingClementine85 · 07/11/2024 13:36

@sel2223 This is such an interesting example of how online discourse can become so polarising. I doubt it would have escalated if we were chatting face to face. If you check out our previous messages you can see that we actually agreed throughout. We both agree that ginger is safe in pregnancy in small doses. So I thought at first that your comment was a genuine apology 😆 Let's leave this here, but it's been interesting, and for me it's been a timely reminder of how dangerous the internet can be for polarising opinions and creating rage.

@Starry4321 OP as I mentioned before (which PP missed), the elderberry syrup is absolutely safe, and I was talking about high doses of ginger - more than 1/2 a teaspoon daily which your syrup doesn't have.

A classic example of backtracking after being called out - you didn't even mention the OP or Elderberry syrup in your first post and your opening gambit was 'ginger is proven to cause uterine contractions'

Your post was irresponsible.
You were scaremongering.

If this thread has created any 'rage' then I suggest you step away from the Internet for a while.

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