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Poor medical advice probably caused my 2 miscarriages and now I'm pregnant again (long)

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whomovedmychocolate · 17/04/2008 19:44

Am very and . I understand doctors can't be experts on everything and partly this is my responsibility because I didn't take enough time to learn about the problem but FFS, you sort of have to trust your physicians on some level when they tell you something that they have actually checked the facts with someone who does understand these things.

I have an inherited factor ten (known as factor X) deficiency. The simplest explanation is that my blood doesn't clot properly. I discovered this when I was really young because I had really heavy periods (starting at age nine) and a geneticist was called in to look at my blood because it was 'funny' whenever they tested it.

So they told me I have this thing and that it was fine - that I'd probably need to take tranxemic acid and nefamic acid every time I had a period.

This is a one in a million thing - it's an inherited disorder, but no-one at the time thought to test my mum - despite the fact she'd had an emergency hysterectomy after massive bleeding during periods which left her with a blood count so low she was actually unable to stand up or function at all. She'd had the same symptoms for twenty years but the association wasn't made.

And no-one has thought to test my daughter. Luckily I'm still breastfeeding her at 18 months which increases her protection as long as I do but then she will need testing and if she has inherited the condition, it needs to be noted whenever she has surgery - even minor surgery and her periods may be an issue.

Worst still, it's associated with a form of haemophilia in boys. And I'm having a boy! Again breastfeeding him will provide good protection to start with - as will oral vitamin k at birth but I've had no related pregnancy care at all. They haven't done any clotting tests and I've only just (today) been referred to a consultant obstetrician who knows anything at all about it, who I am going to ask to refer me to a consultant haemotologist - which may entail a 100 mile trip because there aren't that many of them around.

Similarly I've discovered that every sodding thing they did during my DD's birth was contrary to advice for managing this problem - you don't give a caesarian or an epidural to a woman with a blood clotting disorder (if there is any other alternative - like for example, waiting a few hours to see if natural delivery is possible). In fact the only thing that probably prevented me bleeding out on the table was the fact that I was given so much syntocin (four bags full) my womb had contracted down so very hard so very frequently during my 14 hour labour preventing blood loss - I lost a pint but in the circumstances that's excellent.

My miscarriages were also badly managed - no-one realised I should have been given plasma, so it's no sodding wonder I ended up so very anaemic afterwards. Nor did anyone say 'oh well yes, of course you are more prone to miscarriages - you need regular blood tests to check you don't need plasma' .

And now I'm 25 weeks pregnant. And I'm expected to trust these folks with my care. I was planning a homebirth if everything is okay during the pregnancy - problem is, now I won't know if everything is okay because I don't know that the docs know how to test for this thing properly - they keep asking me what it is whenever I go to see them. I try and explain, they just look worried and refer me to (yet another consultant) who hasn't heard of it. .

On the positive side, I have managed to find myself a haematologist who works in this area and who has given me some info to put in my notes, but I'm just so frustrated that I'm either not going to be properly looked after or that I'm going to be treated like a ticking time bomb (I'm already a VBAC birth so apparently I'm liable to explode during labour ).

Oh and I'm actually pretty frightened of needles because every time I have a blood test I bleed for about an hour and get massive bruising - that's a symptom of the disease that no-one picked up on either

AARRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGHHHH

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NotABanana · 17/04/2008 19:48

I have absolutely no idea about what you are going through but didn't want to read and run. My advice would be to see your GP and demand someone gets up to speed with what it is you need and want to make your pregnancy and labour as trouble and risk free as possible, and that your baby gets any extra care he needs once he is here.

Good luck.

lulumama · 17/04/2008 19:49

good god, that is horrific.

i am so sorry that you were 'managed' so badly. the only good thing is that you won;t slip through the net this time.

why has the factor ten issue passed everyone by in your previous pregnancy? that is the issue?

i know my sister ruby and i were tested for factor V leiden as my sister and mum have had spontaneous DVTs. i had protein s deficiency and a suspected clot when pregat, and went on low dose aspirin. none of us have factor v though.. just weird blood

ButterflyBessie · 17/04/2008 19:51

Am so sorry to hear that the medics have once again fucked up, doesn't surprise me but am sorry

Good luck with the vbac - they are fab, I have had 2 vba2cs, I gained a lot of help, info and support from the yahoo chat group ukvbachbac, they are very pro homebirths, although I had two incredible intervention free and naturaly hospital vba2cs, and have amazing memories of them both

Good luck

whomovedmychocolate · 17/04/2008 20:29

Thanks all of you - yes Lulu - the factor 10 was completely ignored till labour when they fannied around for 14 hours saying 'ooh you have pre-eclampsia, we need to give you tons of syntocin and an epidural'. I refused the epidural for the first two hours saying 'hey this doesn't hurt that much, I'll just have two paracetamols thanks'.

Then I started having double peaked contractions every minute lasting 30-45 seconds (at 2cm dilated) - yeah I know now they should have turned the pump down at that point rather than up - hindsight is a lovely thing. So I demanded an epidural and a very tiny lady turned up, took a brief history, nearly fainted when I mentioned factor 10 and ran away saying 'can't help, sorry don't know enough to make a decision'. So I carried out another 12 hours with the syntocin being doubled every hour . Pointlessly because it wasn't doing anything.

Then they eventually gave me one anyway because I had a cs. Nobody bothered to check bleeding afterwards, I stopped bleeding at three weeks and then it came back in a massive bleed at six weeks which was put down to a post partum infection - which it probably wasn't, but again in retrospect would at least have called for a clotting test.

After the pregnancy everyone just forgot about it - because I didn't have periods there was no bleed to realise there was a problem, until I conceived and almost immediately started to bleed - a mooncup an hour - and attended the GP who said 'ooh poo, yep that'd be a miscarriage - again, you should go for a scan in a few weeks' . The correct response should have been 'ooh poo, get to A&E right now and check you aren't actually losing enough blood to kill you and get some plasma.'

One of the biggest problems is that before I can get treated in an emergency I have to explain all this and when you are bleeding copiously it's not exactly your highest priority to present a short report on the theory of prolonged partial thromboplastin time (even saying it is difficult).

Plus of course this makes me more prone to premature labour - I went into labour at 27 weeks with DD (luckily it stopped spontaneously - probably due to my terror at being in hospital) - and I'm 25 weeks and due to go on holiday in two weeks! If it's hard to explain this in English, just wait till I have to explain it in French!

I know no-one can change the past and that on the positive side at least I can now fight my corner from a knowledgeable point of view but I was told previously that blood problems can come and go and so I didn't have to worry. Yet this is one that will never come and go - the anaemia it caused did go - eventually - but this is a whole life thing.

ButterflyBessie - one thing this does do which is very positive is means that a VBAC is actually many many times safer for me than even thinking about a caesarian and the docs will actually agree with me on this point. After telling me I will rupture again and again, I faithfully predict a complete u-turn on this point and them getting very keen on me having this baby vaginally!

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ImightbeLulumama · 17/04/2008 20:32

yes, if bleeding is a big factor they won;t want to c.s you !

can oyu get a doctors letter re this conditoin or something from a heamotlogist to take on hols? and get it transalated before you go?

s they knew you had clotting issues during labour and then ignored or forgot about them during and after c.s

does not give you muych faith, sadly

whomovedmychocolate · 17/04/2008 20:42

Actually most of the research is in french already - so I can include the abstract of some of the studies in my maternity notes when I travel (it'll freak out my consultants no end though I doubt they'd admit to not being able to read it if I do this ).

No, I don't have a great deal of faith - particularly as I as kicked out of my local hospital as 'too complicated' and sent to the regional specialist hospital last time and again I'm being sent there.

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cass66 · 18/04/2008 11:51

hello. trying to reassure you, factor x deficiency is autosomal recessively inherited, or a spontaneous mutation.

which means you have to have 2 people with the disease to make an affected baby. which makes it rare. which means if your partner is NOT a carrier for the gene, then your children can only be carriers and not have the full disease as you do.

it is not sex linked, so girls and boys are equally likely to be affected. and I can't see how breastfeeding is going to help, it's a genetic condition, so any antibodies you pass on aren't going to help.

and as you are aware of the increased risk of abruption and premature labour, I hope you are going somewhere on holiday where there is good medical care. But I'm sure you know all this.

isn't it good that your local hospital recognise you are rare and have referred you to the specialist centre? that's what I would want, anyway.

sorry if you know this already. cass

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