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Progesterone issue - any hope to save this from ending in a chemical?

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Kateeeeeeee · 25/06/2024 11:34

Hello all!
This morning I had what I believe to potentially be implantation bleeding, it’s exactly as they describe it so it made me feel positive!

I am about 7 or 8 days past ovulation and my PdG test today and yesterday were low (2.4ug/ml yesterday and 2ug/ml today). I use the Proov test kit and the threshold that would be ideal is about 5 ug/ml.

I am suspecting that I may have a problem with not producing enough progesterone, and am wondering if there is still any chance of saving what may be a potential pregnancy? I am really worried that I will end up with a chemical, looking at how low my PdG results are.

Yes I am considering supplementing however it might be difficult to get a prescription for progesterone, I contacted my doctor who said that they might consider it however it might take for up to a month to hear back from them. I started using progesterone cream yesterday that I bought online and use an amount that equals to 40mg daily, however it didn’t seem to push my levels up today, I am not sure if these work at all.

If I am lucky enough to get a prescription, do you think it is not too late yet?

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notnowmarmaduke · 25/06/2024 11:36

8 days past ovulation, way to early, just leave it another week and see where you are at. 8 days past ovulation, sperm may not have even met egg yet!

Chasingbaby2 · 25/06/2024 12:15

I was prescribed progesterone from 3dpo, as it prepares your lining for implantation. There is a role for supplementing, but Im not recommending to do it without being under medical advice obviously. I did successfully have my baby under the protocol after recurrant miscarriage investigation x

Busyhedgehog · 25/06/2024 12:43

I have issues with low progesterone and had been prescribed some from before implantation. My levels were tested at TF+14 (kryo transfer) and I was told to continue with it as well as getting an additional dose. I think I was at about 9 ng/ml and then it had gone up to 15 ng/ml 3 days later.
I took 800mg Cyclogest and 25mg Prolutex daily. I don't think 40mg would have done much at all. Talk to your doctor again. However, where I live you have to go through the fertility clinic. My normal gynaecologist wasn't allowed to prescribe that kind of medication.

Bluebys · 25/06/2024 12:51

@notnowmarmaduke Not quite! The egg only survives for 24 hours past ovulation, meaning the sperm has to meet and fertilise it by the end of 1 day post ovulation. If it has been fertilised from this time then implantation of the blastocyst happens six days after ovulation.

OP, can you contact your local EPU? If you have certain risk factors they may agree to prescribe progesterone suppositories once you get a positive test.

2mumlife · 25/06/2024 12:53

Progesterone is normally only prescribed if you've gone through fertility treatment, have a history of miscarriage or other medical issues.

Possinass · 25/06/2024 13:54

notnowmarmaduke · 25/06/2024 11:36

8 days past ovulation, way to early, just leave it another week and see where you are at. 8 days past ovulation, sperm may not have even met egg yet!

The egg dies around 24-48 hours after release. So at 8 days past ovulation its either been fertilized or is dead.
Yes it might be too early to get a positive test, but it's definitely not too early for it to be fertilized.

notnowmarmaduke · 25/06/2024 14:10

Possinass · 25/06/2024 13:54

The egg dies around 24-48 hours after release. So at 8 days past ovulation its either been fertilized or is dead.
Yes it might be too early to get a positive test, but it's definitely not too early for it to be fertilized.

It is not too early for it to be fertilised, but there is a wide variance. You cant be sure when you ovulated, many eggs survive longer than average - talking about getting a positive at this stage is meaningless

Possinass · 25/06/2024 14:27

notnowmarmaduke · 25/06/2024 14:10

It is not too early for it to be fertilised, but there is a wide variance. You cant be sure when you ovulated, many eggs survive longer than average - talking about getting a positive at this stage is meaningless

Do you know where I can find that info? Genuinely I'm very interested as I've been struggling to conceive for years and have been under a few different fertility clinics and I've always been told 24 hours is the norm and 48 is the absolute maximum.

Yes I understand that you might get your ovulation date wrong and that would be why the egg is "still" alive because you actually ovulated 7 days after you thought. But if you're definite when you ovulated then at 8 days past ovulation the egg is very likely dead. And I've never seen any research to show otherwise.

I agree that having or not having a positive at 8dpo is meaningless. A fertilised egg may not implant immediately and everyone's hormones will vary so some will get a positive and some won't that early on.

But in all the research I've done over the years I have only ever seen information that an egg dies around 12-48 hours after release.

Kateeeeeeee · 25/06/2024 15:41

Apparently not everyone gets implantation bleeding, but it happens somewhere between 7-10 days dpo. I have done a lot of research on this so very certain that this is the correct range.

Of course alternatively, this could also be spotting due to low progesterone. Although usually when I have premenstrual spotting, it’s later in the cycle, and also brown and not red. In this instance it was red and light pink, exactly like many describe implantation bleeding. I have never had this before so very curious if this is it or not.

I guess only time will tell!

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LizzeyBenett · 25/06/2024 16:26

I wouldn't be using anything unless it's prescribed by a doctor especially something bought off the internet . 40mg isn't enough anyway and its normally prescribed in a pessary usually if you have suffered previous losses or undergone IVF. I'd be more nervous using that cream than not to be honest .

Bluebys · 26/06/2024 18:17

notnowmarmaduke · 25/06/2024 14:10

It is not too early for it to be fertilised, but there is a wide variance. You cant be sure when you ovulated, many eggs survive longer than average - talking about getting a positive at this stage is meaningless

This simply isn’t true. There isn’t a single piece of research that states eggs survive for days. That’s because they don’t.

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