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PPROM, steroid injections, polyhydramnios, gestational diabetes, severe anxiety - HELP PLEASE!

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lcsmth · 09/05/2024 07:48

So, I’m not really sure of the purpose of this post other than maybe some reassurance and to hear positive outcomes from others. Sorry about the length of this.

I’m currently 35+5 (FTM) with a planned pregnancy. When I first found out I was pregnant I’m ashamed to say I struggled, even though it was planned. Felt unsure that this was actually what I wanted and found myself feeling like I was about to lose all my freedoms and pleasures in life. I struggled to connect/bond and become quite low. I spoke to my GP who was brilliant and referred me to the Parent and Baby Unit for my mental health (I’ve been working with them ever since).

Fast forward a few weeks/months, and I’d started to become really excited about the pregnancy and my husband and I starting a family. At 24weeks pregnant we went to Edinburgh for the weekend for my 30th birthday and, as we were busy/walking a lot, I’d not felt the baby move as much over the weekend, so on the Monday morning (when I still felt movements were reduced), I went up to MAU. I was fully expecting a little listen in to baby’s heart, be told everything was fine and sent on my merry way. While I was there, I just mentioned in passing that I’d noticed a little more discharge than usual (normal consistency, creamy - TMI), but I assumed this was just normal in pregnancy? After triage, was seen my a doctor who did a speculum and this is when everything changed. An obstetrician then came into the room and explained the doctor had seen pooling of fluid in my cervix, which indicated my waters were leaking. He explained this was called PPROM and that when waters rupture you’re most likely to go into labour within 24-48hrs, so the procedure now was to administer steroid injections, a precautionary course of antibiotics and monitor me in hospital for 48hrs for signs of labour/infection. It was an absolute whirlwind. They kept asking me about this ‘gush’ of fluid I’d had, and I told them I’d never had a ‘gush’, just (what I thought was) normal increased discharge. The obstetrician said we needed to err on the side of caution in case the baby came early. He mentioned there’s a ‘small’ study which has found a ‘possible’ link between steroid injections and ‘slight’ decreased academic ability in school. His words were ‘we’re talking the difference between getting a B and a C in Geography’. He also said multiple times that he wanted to make it clear he was strongly advising me to have the steroids, and that if I were his sister or partner he’d be telling me to do the same. I was so scared as this had all been so quick, and I didn’t want to do anything to risk my baby’s life, nor to disadvantage him in the future, but me and my husband decided to have the steroids based on how it had been explained to us. I then stayed in hospital for the next 48hrs, and after no signs of labour/infection, and a scan which showed normal fluid levels, was sent home.

This is when my mental health took a nosedive and I’ve experienced anxiety like I’ve never known. I’ve obsessively googled the steroids and found studies showing an increased risk of autism, ADHD, mental health and behavioural issues and lifelong learning difficulties. None of which was even alluded to at the time. But this has sent me down a warren of rabbit holes for different things too. I’ve thought about all of the things I’ve done during this pregnancy (that I didn’t think twice about at the time), and googled the possible impact of this on the baby and been in absolute bits. It’s like a compulsion. For example, painting and decorating, sanding down old kitchen cupboards (‘what if that was lead paint?’), ‘have I always washed my fruit and veg well enough?’, antibiotics I’ve had for urine infections and the precautionary ones I was put on when diagnosed with PPROM. As a result, I’ve struggled with horrendous intrusive thoughts for the last 11wks that I’ve done something that is going to cause my baby to be disadvantaged in some way for his whole life and have been an absolute anxious wreck.

Given the PPROM diagnosis, I’ve been having weekly monitoring at the hospital for signs of infection and 4weekly growth scans and consultant appointments. I will also say, I’ve been wearing maternity pads and never once had anything I would describe as ‘leaking’. At all of the scans, bub has been doing just fine (so grateful), and I’ve just been told the plan is to continue with the pregnancy as normal and induce at 37weeks. I spoke about the steroid injections with the consultant and he explained that yes, there is an increased risk of the things I’d found on Google, but said the bigger risk of special educational needs is for babies delivered at 37weeks instead of 39 or 40. Given how I’ve been going (no leaking, no signs of infection and he said I could have ‘resealed’), he said he’d be happy to induce at 39weeks instead.
I’ve now googled impact of the hormones used for induction and freaked myself out about the possibility of this causing cerebral palsy.

At my most recent scan/consultant appointment on Friday, the sonographer found I now had TOO MUCH fluid (polyhydramnios). I discussed this with the consultant and he didn’t seem too worried, he said it was ‘marginal’ (I’ve since googled normal fluid levels and the internet tells me mine is more ‘moderate’ than ‘mild), and said fluid levels can fluctuate or it can be ‘just one of those things’. I had blood taken for a TORCH test (toxoplasmosis being something that can cause excess fluid, so I’ve been back down that rabbit hole again), and been checking my blood sugars for gestational diabetes, which can be another cause. After a few high readings, it now appears this could be it and I’ve been referred to the diabetic team and given some pointers on diet to help keep my levels in the normal range. I’m hoping to avoid metformin/insulin as I know having to take something else during this pregnancy will just send my head even more west. I’ve obviously also been googling the impact of gestational diabetes (including increased risk of autism, etc).

I’m now petrified about what to do about the birth. Spontaneous labour with excess fluid increases the risk of cord prolapse, I’ve already mentioned my worries about induction, so feel I’m leaning more towards an elective c section but understand that this can also come with risks for the baby’s breathing. I’m just an absolute state.

Again, not sure of the point of this post, other than maybe to vent, seek reassurance and hear from people who had the steroid injections as a ‘just in case’ and can tell me your children are now absolutely fine and thriving. Or have done/had any of the other things I’ve mentioned and can tell me it seems to have had no impact on your child’s health and wellbeing.
I feel such a heavy sense of responsibility and guilt, and feel really stupid now for having had the steroids (when in hindsight sight they weren’t needed), decorated, eaten chocolate, not exercised as much as I should have, etc etc.

I’m aware no one can guarantee 100% that everything is going to be okay, and I guess ultimately that’s what I’m after so I’m pissing in the wind, but I’ve been scouring the internet to try to find similar experiences to mine so thought it was about time I made my own post. And if you’ve made it this far, thank you so much for reading and sticking with me!

(Also, as previously mentioned, I am working with the Parent and Baby Unit for my mental health, so that’s all already in place).

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Somesome · 09/05/2024 08:09

Gosh reading this was incredibly eery as I was in your position three years ago. I laughed a bit too much and thought I'd had a bit of a wee leak (it was tiny) then suddenly wondered if maybe I should get checked out just in case... Before I know it, I'm being blue lighted to a hospital for superpremies as I've tested positive for PPROM. Unlike you, I had consultants with some common sense who, after weeks and weeks of me testing for infections with clean results and having normal levels of fluid (btw they're right that fluid levels can fluctuate, mine went up and down with both my pregnancies, but push for more scans if you're concerned), they agreed with my request to not be induced at 37 weeks. I ended up being induced at almost 39 weeks and my daughter hit all the milestones early. Induction is not ideal (I personally had leaned towards an elective cs over another induction). So listen to your gut and only accept an induction if you think it is the right option. Not because of a policy that wasn't made for your individual situation (even my consultant said that a few years back their policy would have suggested I have an induction at 34 weeks for PPROM, which would have been beyond inappropriate for my individual situation!). I had a GD diagnosis after having steroids too but I have since learned that steroids can impact the outcome. And yes exactly, please let me be the reassurance that despite having steroids "just in case", my daughter is absolutely healthy, active, expected weight and height and is at the higher end of her peer group in terms of literacy and numeracy. I fell into the rabbit hole too and it was a scary place. As for the link between autism and ADHD, current research overwhelmingly agrees that these are neurological conditions that are genetic/typically inherited. It would be hard to make any conclusive statements about the link between steroids and ADHD/autism given that people who have autism/ADHD are more likely to experience trauma and abuse and may end up in situations that require steroids etc. Have a read of the midwives cauldron episodes about gestational diabetes and check out Emma Ashworth Birth rights on Instagram for some further reassurance about your options if you find yourself being pushed down the GD pathway. And finally good luck!

lcsmth · 09/05/2024 08:46

Somesome · 09/05/2024 08:09

Gosh reading this was incredibly eery as I was in your position three years ago. I laughed a bit too much and thought I'd had a bit of a wee leak (it was tiny) then suddenly wondered if maybe I should get checked out just in case... Before I know it, I'm being blue lighted to a hospital for superpremies as I've tested positive for PPROM. Unlike you, I had consultants with some common sense who, after weeks and weeks of me testing for infections with clean results and having normal levels of fluid (btw they're right that fluid levels can fluctuate, mine went up and down with both my pregnancies, but push for more scans if you're concerned), they agreed with my request to not be induced at 37 weeks. I ended up being induced at almost 39 weeks and my daughter hit all the milestones early. Induction is not ideal (I personally had leaned towards an elective cs over another induction). So listen to your gut and only accept an induction if you think it is the right option. Not because of a policy that wasn't made for your individual situation (even my consultant said that a few years back their policy would have suggested I have an induction at 34 weeks for PPROM, which would have been beyond inappropriate for my individual situation!). I had a GD diagnosis after having steroids too but I have since learned that steroids can impact the outcome. And yes exactly, please let me be the reassurance that despite having steroids "just in case", my daughter is absolutely healthy, active, expected weight and height and is at the higher end of her peer group in terms of literacy and numeracy. I fell into the rabbit hole too and it was a scary place. As for the link between autism and ADHD, current research overwhelmingly agrees that these are neurological conditions that are genetic/typically inherited. It would be hard to make any conclusive statements about the link between steroids and ADHD/autism given that people who have autism/ADHD are more likely to experience trauma and abuse and may end up in situations that require steroids etc. Have a read of the midwives cauldron episodes about gestational diabetes and check out Emma Ashworth Birth rights on Instagram for some further reassurance about your options if you find yourself being pushed down the GD pathway. And finally good luck!

I honestly can't thank you enough for your response. It's actually just bought a tear to my eye that someone even bothered to read and reply to my ramblings, but also for the reassurance and hearing that someone else has experienced a similar thing!
I'm so glad your daughter is doing so well, and I know youre absolutely right about the ADHD/autism stuff, I'm just really struggling with this sense of 'this is all my fault. I've made all the wrong decisions and it's going to really negatively impact on my baby'.
Yeah, I'm definitely not going to go for induction at 37weeks. I've got another scan and consultant appointment just after 37weeks so hopefully will see what the fluid levels are like then and go from there in terms of a decision. I just feel so sad that this pregnancy has been completely ruined by all of the anxiety, and of course, worrying about the impact of all the stress and anxiety on my baby! Such a horrible vicious cycle!
Thanks for the reading/instagram recommendations as well, I'll definitely look into those.
Thank you again for your response, you have no idea how much I needed to hear that x

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Somesome · 09/05/2024 08:51

lcsmth · 09/05/2024 08:46

I honestly can't thank you enough for your response. It's actually just bought a tear to my eye that someone even bothered to read and reply to my ramblings, but also for the reassurance and hearing that someone else has experienced a similar thing!
I'm so glad your daughter is doing so well, and I know youre absolutely right about the ADHD/autism stuff, I'm just really struggling with this sense of 'this is all my fault. I've made all the wrong decisions and it's going to really negatively impact on my baby'.
Yeah, I'm definitely not going to go for induction at 37weeks. I've got another scan and consultant appointment just after 37weeks so hopefully will see what the fluid levels are like then and go from there in terms of a decision. I just feel so sad that this pregnancy has been completely ruined by all of the anxiety, and of course, worrying about the impact of all the stress and anxiety on my baby! Such a horrible vicious cycle!
Thanks for the reading/instagram recommendations as well, I'll definitely look into those.
Thank you again for your response, you have no idea how much I needed to hear that x

No worries at all. It's quite strange as I don't really go on Mumsnet that much at all but stumbled across your post when searching for something unrelated so it was serendipitous and I felt compelled to reply. Glad to hear the MH team are supporting you too, they were a god send for me the second time around as the impact of a pregnancy like this one (with all the tests and anxiety) did long lasting damage but the second one was healing. It isn't your/our fault. If we'd refused to have the steroids and our babies had come super early and struggled, we'd have beaten ourselves up far more. I do really think it was the best choice in that moment (very sadly, I was alone when I had to make that choice as it was lockdown and no partners were allowed at all, so I had the guilt that the decision and outcome was all on me). You won't feel like this forever.

lcsmth · 09/05/2024 12:21

Thank you.
Im so glad you've said that about your second pregnancy too. Obviously, my priority right now is getting this little one here safe and sound, but I have always said I want 2 children but I'm really worried about the impact of this pregnancy. My husband has already said he's not sure if he can do all of this again, so it's nice to hear your second pregnancy was a positive experience for you.
I'm so sorry to hear you had to go through that/make that decision alone due to restrictions. I can't even imagine how difficult that must have been. Thankfully you've got your beautiful, happy, healthy daughter as a result.
Thank you again for your kind words and the reassurance x

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anicecuppateaa · 09/05/2024 12:42

Just wanted to send reassurance. On the polyhydramnios front, please don’t panic. Drs tell the blunt truth so if your consultant has told you it’s borderline high and is not worried, do not panic. I had severe poly and most of the time there is no obvious cause. GD could be the cause (especially if your baby measures big), but otherwise I wouldn’t panic.

On PPROM, it is really good they picked it up and amazing you made it to this point.

I was being scanned weekly by consultants in 2 pregnancies due to severe polyhydramnios (the consultant said it was the worst she had ever seen). My children were all born healthy.

lcsmth · 09/05/2024 16:25

anicecuppateaa · 09/05/2024 12:42

Just wanted to send reassurance. On the polyhydramnios front, please don’t panic. Drs tell the blunt truth so if your consultant has told you it’s borderline high and is not worried, do not panic. I had severe poly and most of the time there is no obvious cause. GD could be the cause (especially if your baby measures big), but otherwise I wouldn’t panic.

On PPROM, it is really good they picked it up and amazing you made it to this point.

I was being scanned weekly by consultants in 2 pregnancies due to severe polyhydramnios (the consultant said it was the worst she had ever seen). My children were all born healthy.

Thank you so much for taking the time to read and for your response and reassurance about the poly. I'm so glad both your children are happy and healthy and it sounds like it was managed/monitored well.
Can I ask if you had spontaneous labour, induced/waters broken in a controlled way or c section due to the poly? I want to keep little man where he is for as long as possible/until he's ready, but am now petrified of going into spontaneous labour and possible cord prolapse, so am just trying to consider timing of all of this too! Thank you again!

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annlee3817 · 09/05/2024 21:38

Ah OP pregnancy is so stressful anyway without all that thrown into the mix, with my first pregnancy I also had pooling of waters and a gush at 24 weeks, steroid injections, shortened cervix and regular monitoring/scans. I did avoid induction as she stayed put and arrived herself at 40+5, I was so worried, all was fine in the end and shes about to turn 9. My second pregnancy, no leaking waters, but polyhydramnios, steroid injections at 31 weeks this time and an irritable uterus, induction started with the pessary at 39 weeks, then five days later they broke my waters and put me on the syntocin drip, it wasn't the smoothest of labours, but was 5 hours from waters breaking, no intervention, and she's now 20 months and so far hitting her milestones. It's hard not to Google these things, keep speaking to your midwives and consultants, keep asking questions. I'm glad I had the steroids in both pregnancies because if they'd arrived early as thought it would have helped their lungs and got me that's all that mattered. Try not to be hard on yourself. It's ok to have these worries and question things. For me the benefits outweighed the risks

anicecuppateaa · 09/05/2024 22:17

lcsmth · 09/05/2024 16:25

Thank you so much for taking the time to read and for your response and reassurance about the poly. I'm so glad both your children are happy and healthy and it sounds like it was managed/monitored well.
Can I ask if you had spontaneous labour, induced/waters broken in a controlled way or c section due to the poly? I want to keep little man where he is for as long as possible/until he's ready, but am now petrified of going into spontaneous labour and possible cord prolapse, so am just trying to consider timing of all of this too! Thank you again!

I had elcs with both. First pregnancy of the two was twins and so with the poly, elcs was strongly recommended. The next time I had to have an elcs as I’d had 2 before by that point. If yours is only borderline I wouldn’t be worried about natural labour, but you will need to go to hospital as soon as your waters break. I would check the plan next time you see your consultant :)

roses2 · 28/07/2024 12:48

This thread came up when I searched for steroids and adhd. I was given two doses of steroids during late pregnancy as there was a possibility of birth one month early. It was presented that I had to take them and no risks highlighted. My son is 11 and has adhd. I often wonder if it's because of the steroids. Whilst there is no proven link, there are enough searches on the topic to warrant investigation.

Somesome · 28/07/2024 19:10

roses2 · 28/07/2024 12:48

This thread came up when I searched for steroids and adhd. I was given two doses of steroids during late pregnancy as there was a possibility of birth one month early. It was presented that I had to take them and no risks highlighted. My son is 11 and has adhd. I often wonder if it's because of the steroids. Whilst there is no proven link, there are enough searches on the topic to warrant investigation.

Correlation does not equal cause. The proportion of individuals who received steroids as part of their birth will be relatively high, given the high numbers of c sections.

Rafiqidome · 21/02/2025 06:39

I am currently going through a very similar experience as you now at 25 weeks, also had a “leakage” and they assumed it was PROM, even after the swab which was negative I was still given betamethasone , I was alone at the time so I just quickly texted my husband who agreed I should just take it. My doctor however mentioned no risks.
After having it I went down a rabbit whole of reading how much it could affect my baby and ever since my anxiety has been at an all time high. The next day I spoke to the doctor about my concerns and he said the studies were inconclusive, it didn’t make me feel any better tho. At the scan the next day my fluid levels went from being just below mean level last week, to way above the mean level yesterday.
It’s all soo confusing to me. So now I’m currently on bed rest at home after being discharged just worried about the well being of my baby hoping I didn’t cause anything to effect baby’s development when I stumbled across your post looking for assurance as well, I see it’s been a year, I just wanted to enquire how are you and baby doing? Is everything going well? Do you see any effects from the steroids? I’m sorry if asking too much but I feel as if though getting feedback from personal experience will be much more insightful and reassuring then the studies.

Somesome · 21/02/2025 09:45

Rafiqidome · 21/02/2025 06:39

I am currently going through a very similar experience as you now at 25 weeks, also had a “leakage” and they assumed it was PROM, even after the swab which was negative I was still given betamethasone , I was alone at the time so I just quickly texted my husband who agreed I should just take it. My doctor however mentioned no risks.
After having it I went down a rabbit whole of reading how much it could affect my baby and ever since my anxiety has been at an all time high. The next day I spoke to the doctor about my concerns and he said the studies were inconclusive, it didn’t make me feel any better tho. At the scan the next day my fluid levels went from being just below mean level last week, to way above the mean level yesterday.
It’s all soo confusing to me. So now I’m currently on bed rest at home after being discharged just worried about the well being of my baby hoping I didn’t cause anything to effect baby’s development when I stumbled across your post looking for assurance as well, I see it’s been a year, I just wanted to enquire how are you and baby doing? Is everything going well? Do you see any effects from the steroids? I’m sorry if asking too much but I feel as if though getting feedback from personal experience will be much more insightful and reassuring then the studies.

Not the OP but I did share my experiences in this thread having also gone through this. My daughter is almost four now and I just wanted to offer reassurance that we've seen no longer term health implications and she hasn't had any developmental delays (she's actually ahead of peers physically and in terms of literacy/numeracy). I can't believe that she was that same tiny baby in my belly when I went through that scary time. Sending lots of best wishes for you.

lcsmth · 21/02/2025 10:26

Rafiqidome · 21/02/2025 06:39

I am currently going through a very similar experience as you now at 25 weeks, also had a “leakage” and they assumed it was PROM, even after the swab which was negative I was still given betamethasone , I was alone at the time so I just quickly texted my husband who agreed I should just take it. My doctor however mentioned no risks.
After having it I went down a rabbit whole of reading how much it could affect my baby and ever since my anxiety has been at an all time high. The next day I spoke to the doctor about my concerns and he said the studies were inconclusive, it didn’t make me feel any better tho. At the scan the next day my fluid levels went from being just below mean level last week, to way above the mean level yesterday.
It’s all soo confusing to me. So now I’m currently on bed rest at home after being discharged just worried about the well being of my baby hoping I didn’t cause anything to effect baby’s development when I stumbled across your post looking for assurance as well, I see it’s been a year, I just wanted to enquire how are you and baby doing? Is everything going well? Do you see any effects from the steroids? I’m sorry if asking too much but I feel as if though getting feedback from personal experience will be much more insightful and reassuring then the studies.

I'm so sorry you're going through this. It's awful and I wouldn't wish the anxiety on anyone. My son is 8 months old now, has just started to crawl, cruise (which I'm told is quite early) and has met all milestones each time I've taken him to be 'assessed' by the Health Visitor. And I've taken him a lot. The reason I've taken him a lot is because of the anxiety I'm still experiencing. I tell you this, because I would urge you to seek professional support for this, as some days it is still debilitating a year on. I've had support from the perinatal mental health team from early on in my pregnancy and have been having therapy too, which I'm hoping will start to help me to manage the anxiety on the bad days.
So while my son is still young, no professionals that have ever seen him have expressed any concerns about him or his development and all agree that my worries I still have about him are a result of my anxiety rather than anything else, and that's he is a bright, happy, healthy boy, doing all the things an 8 month old should be doing.
Sending you lots of love and strength.

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Somesome · 21/02/2025 10:45

lcsmth · 21/02/2025 10:26

I'm so sorry you're going through this. It's awful and I wouldn't wish the anxiety on anyone. My son is 8 months old now, has just started to crawl, cruise (which I'm told is quite early) and has met all milestones each time I've taken him to be 'assessed' by the Health Visitor. And I've taken him a lot. The reason I've taken him a lot is because of the anxiety I'm still experiencing. I tell you this, because I would urge you to seek professional support for this, as some days it is still debilitating a year on. I've had support from the perinatal mental health team from early on in my pregnancy and have been having therapy too, which I'm hoping will start to help me to manage the anxiety on the bad days.
So while my son is still young, no professionals that have ever seen him have expressed any concerns about him or his development and all agree that my worries I still have about him are a result of my anxiety rather than anything else, and that's he is a bright, happy, healthy boy, doing all the things an 8 month old should be doing.
Sending you lots of love and strength.

Sending lots of love and strength to you OP. We spoke before and I'm glad to hear you're on the other side but you're completely right that the MH impact is significant. I'm four years on now and still find myself feeling like I could use some top up therapy around anniversaries. It does get better.

lcsmth · 21/02/2025 11:22

@Somesome SO lovely to hear from you again. And just wanted to say thank you again so much for reaching out and sharing your experience the first time around. You have no idea how much your comment helped me (and still does!) on the bad days. I find myself commenting on people's posts a lot more now to try to provide some reassurance when I can because of how much your comment helped me, and hopefully mine and yours experiences on this post can reassure this PP somewhat.
But yes, the MH impact is definitely not to be underestimated. I recently started working with a new therapist who has suggested we do some trauma work at some point around what happened. It's definitely an ongoing process and I'm not surprised to hear there are still times that you struggle even 4 years on. Hoping that things get easier for you as the months/years pass, and really hope you and your family are doing well. X

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lcsmth · 21/02/2025 11:29

Also @Rafiqidome in case it helps - I ended up going full term with my pregnancy, had weekly monitoring for infection (which I thankfully never got) right up until the end and chose to have an elective c section at 39+4 as I didn't want to have an induction. All of this to say that you have a choice in what happens (although I'm not suggesting you completely disregard professional medical advice). I remember at first feeling like I had no choice and was just going to have to be induced at 37 weeks as that's what all doctors said the procedure was. However, my weekly monitoring was always fine, I never had any big leaks or gushes, fluid levels were always fine and so I declined to have baby delivered at 37 weeks as I wanted to go as long as I could. And, for my situation personally, an elective c section was absolutely the best decision for me, as it removed the anxiety that would have come with having an induction/spontaneous labour, and the possibility of having to have an emergency section anyway. The recovery from the surgery was rough at first, but the procedure itself went smoothly and I would make the same choice again.

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