Private NT Scan transfer back to NHS

[MAY324]

Hello
we are booking a private NT scan purely due to the fact we wanted to know sooner rather than later and our trust is running quite a few weeks behind. Can the results be passed back to the NHS? I know I will get a due date given at this scan and don’t want it to be missed by the NHS midwives. It is our first baby so not sure how it all works ☺️
thanks

I know I will get a due date given at this scan and don’t want it to be missed by the NHS midwives.

What do you mean by 'it'?

You’ll still get your 12 and 20 week scans via the NHS regardless of how many private scans you have, so they will date from there any how.
but you could ask the private place for a print out of your report and then give it to the midwives at nhs to including in your paper notes or upload to your electronic if they are that modern.

The due date! Like my current one is based off my last period but I know they change at your dating scan. This is likely to be our only private scan and then carry on with the nhs. Just wanted to make sure the MHS would be aware of the new due date!

do you have to have them? Our trust is currently only offering 12 week scans about 16 weeks! So I wouldn’t need one then. I would definitely have the 20 week one though!

The NHS scan will be your official due date. Have you had your booking appointment yet?

Yes had my booking appointment this week! So even if we pay to have a private scan, the NHS won’t go off that due date? Just worried about having too many scans when not necessary if that makes sense.

So even if we pay to have a private scan, the NHS won’t go off that due date?

That's right.

The scan isn't just to find out the due date.

Can you imagine what would happen if something went wrong further down the line that could have been prevented by the scan but they didn't do one because someone else had done one.

You don’t HAVE to have them but it would flag up safe guarding risks, or the trust might refuse to care for you if you can’t go through their tests. Etc. as above says, not just a dating scan.

to reassure you, I had scans every 2 weeks from about 8 weeks with one of mine, and scans at 8, 11, 12, 20, 34 (due to a big bleed) and the subsequent 3 days, then 37 as baby felt breech, then 38 to confirm breech.
both babies (now 2 and 4) are super healthy and absolutely fine.

US is very safe x

Also, there is a perceived (/real in some cases) difference between private and “private”

do you mean you’re paying private health care provider such as spire or bupa healthcare/hospitals with a gynaecologists or sonographer in that setting, or one of those “window to the womb” or other such high street places. The nhs would consider information provided form the former but not the latter re dates/issues with the baby. But they’d likely still insist on a scan anyway

Window to the womb referred me back to epu and epu took it seriously. Although I wouldn't ever go back there for different reasons.

Hi
I had the same question I think, do you mean will the NHS take account of what is on the private scan? The answer to that is no, they take no information from them due to the fact they are largely unregulated, you don’t even need to be a trained sonographer. I know this as my baby was measuring smaller on NHS scan and I told them the private scan hadn’t flagged the same issue, they didn’t even want to see it which in hindsight is the correct approach in my opinion.

I was under a private miscarriage clinic and paid for a 12 week (more in depth) scan there with a professor who happened to be the lead gynaecologist for the nhs trust I was under. My nhs scan was the next day and he told me to still go. Nhs dated it a few days differently which was a tad frustrating, as I trusted the professor more.

I agree to the comments above it's totally up to you if you want reassurance earlier. I have been to two non NHS scanning establishments.

One did the Nuchal testing and bloods which they said the NHS do accept. They recommend not having both. Highly professional setting and all mostly NHS trained private docs. You are more than entitled to both however.

The other is simply for "reassurance" and they are more gimmicky if you ask me. Okay if you want to scan early for rough dates or check up on baby - but they won't tell you anything about baby's autonomy etc. if you wanted an early for an approx date whilst you wait for NHS NT one then this is fine. It actually made me feel really uneasy the "assistant" looked 12 and I was worried more they'd missed something important! I wouldn't recommend them again.

Make sure you're going to the right place don't waste your money.

Also the NHS do have to do a dating Nuchal scan and chromosome testing before 14 weeks. So seems strange they've told you 16!?
If you've had your booking appointment see how long the wait is for the NHS scan you might be surprised. 😊

Also my due date changed 3 times with my first at every NHS scan 😂 so I ignore them mostly anyway! You won't be forgotten have sperate 'private' ones but the NHS might insist they do theirs anyway ..

They have to do the dating scan before 14 weeks because that’s the latest they can do the screening tests. If the NHS trust isn’t giving you your scan before 14 weeks, you have to raise a complaint as high up as you can (or do what I did and go and stand in their ultrasound reception until they sort your appointment out).

Are you sure that the 16 weeks you mention is for an ultrasound? They should have made you a 16 week midwife appointment, but the ultrasound is usually booked separately (not always, some trusts just block book them). I had my 16 week appointment confirmed at my booking appointment, while for the dating scan I had to wait to hear about that appointment (and never did, hence just turning up and getting it sorted in person).

Just to clarify, the scan is doing the NT test as well as the trisomy blood tests and the dating aspect. It’s costing over £200 and is through a private healthcare provider rather than a reassurance scan type place. I know you need to have the scan before 14 weeks which is why we’ve opted to go private as they are running far behind and also we’d like to know as early as possible. Would this be accepted by the NHS? They have the BM registration number and are also part of a hospital trust.

As other posters have told you, no. They will need to do their own scan.

@MAY324 no the NHS will give their own dates based on their findings. Im an IVF pregnancy so knew the exact dates and had several scans before the 12 week NHS scan, they were aware of these dates but went with their own dates. The baby has pretty much followed their measurements throughout, currently 38+2 weeks.
Good luck :)

@MAY324 ahh okay that helps! it sounds like it’ll be the same process that the NHS do then 🙂

however I would suggest you contact your specific NHS trust and ask - nobody can really answer if they’ll accept it. I am shocked they’ve said they don’t have space before 14 weeks for you - as a matter of safety and priority. I’d be calling to complain and ask for it sooner rather than paying for it? But I know this also can be frustrating and cause worry.

Best of luck either way! It’s so confusing and an anxious time especially first time around.

Hi there I'm reaching with the hope you guy's can provide any useful support/ guidance.

I was pregnant bk in 2022 and I had two private scans proformed, before my 12 week scan which was carried out at 15 weeks.

The second private scan picked up failed twin pregnancy and himonic echoing...
I was advised to inform NHS maternity and for this too be investigated.

So I produced the private scan at earliest convenience, however this came across to maternity care sonnagraph proforma that day, in discused and dismissive attitude, as this person took it as a reflection of the level of care, they did or didn't give.

Rewind in short bk storey...
I was being carbon monoxide poisoned, adult social services couldn't house me in support accommodation as they didn't have to take control of my finces...this not much help..

So I realised the only person who could get me out this shit, is me especially being pregnant.

10/11 month as one can imagine numerous health problems, memory issues sensory overload all heightened...

So fast forward out the death trap literally...
12 scan this NHS care provider... shrugged should and spoke with discused/derision followed with why am I going private u don't need to go private we provide the same care.

So with that it must've been that serious....
She NHS maternity nurse!
So being homeless ill health for more than pregnancy, blah blah I'm ASD number of othe mental issues, as well as being targeted with cursive control on covert, level memory issues, L.A.....im sure you get the picture.
Worsen health issues complications ect...

I passed mummified fetous 7 weeks after C-section...

I emailed the NHS provider who's concerns,
With sorry I've missed the deadline blah blah.

Then at the 11th hour to the actual time frame I pull all the stops out and I know my right!!
I was then met with after a review of my correspondence the board would like to off my the opportunity to present my issue.

After Knock bk after Knock back my medical negligence firms....who are incompetent as they requested GP records however I found out maternity records are not in GP records...
There's few words in GP records where I spoke and mentioned failed twin pregnancy.... numerous A&E attendance's...
As I was suffering with prclapisa....
3 trips dehydrated stools colour of sand itchy skin and bumps occurring in the night...

One A&E trip coughing blood clot over one month and disappears returns... advice go the A&E so I did....first consultation blood pressure ect, any other conditions, yeah 2021 two shadows on lungs carbon monoxide in lungs, I said but ASD senory overload & memory problems I did couldn't do basic tasks.

Result time now no clot to heart or lungs, no shadows on lungs, but early COPD....

passed fetous what do u know all my health issues... disappears....

Due to the deteriorating health, I choose to adopt my child as I couldn't do anything for myself I thought this was because of the carbon monoxide, thus how can I give good enough quality of care to this child...

The decision literally broke my heart and whole being every fiber crushed...
I relapse to numb the pain....to then recover with a few undiagnosed health issues...
Due to addiction distrust of professional services.

So I represent myself letter of claims even though a positive step of a meeting with the NHS provider who this concerns...

They said this isn't to talk about any claims..

My question what's the process any help advice contact who can help...please....

Anyone been through this?

I think if you start your own thread you’ll probably get more guidance as this is over a year old. Sorry you went through this.