Expecting better- smoked salmon?

[wasanneofcleves]

Does anyone have a copy of Expecting Better and can tell me what it says about smoked salmon please? I ate it in my last two pregnancies as I'm sure I remember the book saying it's fine because the stuff you buy in the shops has already been frozen but the NHS says it's a no go. I don't have a copy of the book anymore but really want my smoked salmon tomorrow if I can!

I don’t have the book but I personally couldn’t, there’s been a number of listeria outbreaks in the past year linked to smoked salmon. It’s been in the news and food standards agency have done assessment if you wish to read.

Could you cook it?

It should be heated at the moment. There have been issues with listeria in smoked fish recently so the advice is to heat it first.

National outbreak of listeriosis in England associated with smoked salmon, 2020 to 2021Between November and December 2020, an outbreak of listeriosis was detected in England after 3 people were infected with the same strain of L. monocytogenes, one of whom died. All 3 cases had underlying comorbidities or risk factors for listeriosis, including one pregnancy-related case. One of the outbreak cases reported consuming salmon trimmings and smoked salmon slices purchased from a UK supermarket chain.
Following international inquiry through the European surveillance portal (EPIS, now known as EpiPulse), whole genome sequencing (WGS) analysis of food isolates sampled from smoked salmon in an EU country identified the outbreak strain. The samples were traced back to a smoked salmon supplier in the UK that distributed salmon products to the supermarket chain reported by one of the cases.
Two further cases were identified in 2021. These 2 cases also had underlying comorbidities or risk factors for listeriosis, both were non-pregnancy associated and reported consuming smoked salmon products.

Oh dammit. Thanks though ladies. I guess I'll cook it 😭 and enjoy it with my nosecco 🙃

Suppose you could heat it and then put it in the fridge to eat it cold later

I wouldn’t heat it. But you can freeze it then defrost it to eat later. Same with Palma ham.

What do you mean? Is that because you think it's ok if it's been frozen? All (as far as I can tell) smoked salmon in the shops has been frozen already (it says on the packet) which is why I thought it was ok to eat it but the other posters seem to say it can still cause listeria xx

At the moment it's advised to heat smoked fish to kill listeria. Freezing doesn't make food safe from listeria

https://www.food.gov.uk/news-alerts/news/food-standards-agency-and-food-standards-scotland-issue-updated-advice-to-higher-risk-consumers-on-ready-to-eat-cold-smoked-and

Says you can heat it and then eat it chilled later.

I've been eating it! I didn't know about the outbreak. I've not been sick 🤷‍♀️