Whooping cough Vaccine 34 weeks pregnant

[Dancingonthemoonlight]

I'm 34 weeks pregnant and haven't had the whooping cough vaccine yet.

I'm torn between what to do because I understand how had whooping cough can be but when I was pregnant with my middle child (wasn't routine when my eldest was born in 2009) I had it done at 32 weeks and literally the very next day I was in hospital overnight having steroids because of potential pre term labour, I was contracting etc the lot. My midwife has told me this time around that it was merely a coincidence (I firmly believe this was NOT coincidental)

I'm going to speak to my consultant about it on Thursday at my next scan and check up but I'm really torn on what to do.
Most people have a sore arm and don't feel well and I had that too but the fact is it nearly put me in preterm labour (which I'm led to believe is a rarity) puts me off and makes me anxious. I remember sitting in triage hooked up to the machine and my contractions where hitting 100 thankfully he held on until 39 weeks but it scared me.

Has anyone else had that as a side effect to the whooping cough vaccine? Because everyone I speak to and every thing I've looked at nobody else has said anything about it.

If I had it done again would the same thing happen?

I don't have any vaccines during pregnancy

I had the whopping cough vaccine on Monday and on the Thursday my waters broke at 22 weeks. Could have been the vaccine? Could have been my large fibroids? Will never know.

So you are going to ignore the professional qualified midwife and instead seek advice from largely unqualified anecdotal reports on the Internet...ok then.

Op whipping cough vaccine has zero links to preterm labour. However it has lots of links to infant deaths.

Having had it as an adult twice I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy let alone a new born baby.

Stop being ridiculous and get the vaccine.

Everything okay? X

No way I’d get the vaccine again if I’d had that reaction.

No sadly things didn't turn out well for me. Low risk pregnancy up until that point too and will never know what caused my waters to break. Thanks for asking tho

It's your body and your baby. You can do what you want as long as you're aware of the consequences and it being on you if you don't follow medical advice. I'm not medical but trusted the science/people over my worries. You don't have to do this, but you do need to know you follow medical advice or your own views and whatever happens next falls at the relevant door

Is this why you're claiming you can't link to the study you refer to? The study which you yourself admit shows that there's no difference in miscarriage rates between the national average and the vaccinated sample? Which means there's no statistical evidence to suggest there's a link at all?

It's there in black and white.....

I said the misscarriage rate was same as national average so wasn't a concern did I not? read my message again, also in black and white. Doesn't mean there weren't other outcomes that were of a concern, read the study for yourself, I was merely listing things the article discusses.

For anyone interested in fact rather than opinion here is the study performed by bmi that @em3392 referenced.

https://www.bmj.com/content/349/bmj.g4219

There was actually a control group of unvaccinated pregnant women. The main point they looked at was stillbirths as obviously that’s a serious problem, but it also looked at other potential problems, of which they did not find any. They do mention the 14 infants unfortunately lost their lives in 2012 which is why this vaccine is so important. This has been a vaccine that has been routinely given to pregnant women for 10 years and no adverse side effects has been shown from it.

You may get a sore arm or feel a bit rubbish for a day or two, but your baby has no increased risk.

I see the back and fourth about the adverse affects. May I just add that reporting of effects is extremely low. Firstly people are not aware of the yellow.card they can complete. Instead they may go to the Modwofe/Dr and report and reporting of potential problems is very low. In fact most HCP will brush it off and say Coincidental.
So although these studies say no effects the realities out there are very different. Just reporting is low / nonexistant.

This is not related completely. But we had a family friends son who died from complications of newborn vaccines and as suspected the Drs shrugged it off and did not report it. I had to help said family friend to find the correct channels. Even after reporting they really swept it under the carpet.
I am an NHS worker and have a household of Drs/Pharmacists (both industry/community)/Dentists. All said members have never vaccinated any of their children and all refused the Corona crap to this includes their friends in the profession. If the HCPs are doing this what does that say.
They live a double life. At work they have to push what the Govt and their respective Boards requests. But in their personal lives they live very differently and many have guilt about this.

I remember my OBGYN said to me once. The risk of such and such is 1.3% but when you are that statistic you won't care how big or small that number is.

And this swings both ways.

So when the Dr / Midwife or whoever twlls you

Her experience of having contractions at 32 weeks was very much real. The link to the vaccine cannot be made so let’s not show people how to jump the gun.

I’ve cared for babies in ICU who contracted whooping cough before they were 8 weeks old. Born healthy, contracted whooping cough, intubated, ventilated and in hospital for several months. Long term problems with their breathing, needing breathing tubes as toddlers, unable to talk.. and they were the ones who survived. Nothing convinced me more to have it when I started my family

I'd like to start by saying thank you to everyone who has taken the time to comment, even the harsher ones.

My first child was born at 35 weeks pre 2012, so yes when I went to hospital at 32 weeks with my middle child and ended up staying in and having steroids it scared me and yes I do put some of the blame on the DTAP vaccine because of how quickly it happened AFTER the vaccine was administrated..

I have spent weeks researching it etc and whilst it all says how safe it is etc I can't help but still feel completely torn and tbh quite distressed by it. If you aren't one of the ones who had a reaction to it and the scale I did then it's easier for you to all say its coincidental, it wasn't the vaccine etc but truthfully none of us (including me) know that for a fact because let's face it no medical professional is going to say 'yep it's the vaccine'

As for the you can't be in labour 7 weeks I know this I'm not daft, however I was in slow labour for around 1 week before my eldest was born.

I feel like I'm on double edged sword, either get the vaccine and potentially have the same side effect or don't have it and risk whooping cough. It's left me in a very anxious and over thinking state.

If you had an adverse reaction to say the covid vaccine that was severe enough to leave you anxious etc I'm sure you would understand and would be questioning if you should have more of said vaccine.

I'm going to speak to my consultant today about the whooping cough vaccine and try to find out if whooping cough is going around my local area etc. I'm trying to make an informed choice. I'm not an anti vaxxer all my children are fully vaccinated with the exception of the covid vaccines which none of us have taken purely because its experimental.

If i hadn't of reacted to DTAP like I did with my middle child I wouldn't be questioning it for this pregnancy. I blindly had it with my middle child no questions asked.

@Dancingonthemoonlight you had a history of pre term labour prior to that pregnancy which builds an even stronger case that the vaccine was not responsible for the contractions you experienced at 32 weeks.

Yes most people would be reluctant to have the vaccine they have reacted to a subsequent time but from what you’ve posted, there is nothing to suggest you reacted to the vaccine in the first place. Your post indicates you are absolutely convinced you have had a reaction to this vaccine when all professionals are telling you otherwise. If there was any evidence to suggest the vaccine causes this, you would be informed of the risks before being vaccinated. Professionals will never say with certainty ‘yes it’s the vaccine’ but they equally will openly tell you if the vaccine could have been responsible. Evidence says otherwise and that is what they are conveying to you. Your consultant will hopefully be able to provide more reassurance as they have your full history.

I have friends who refused to have it in pregnancy, fortunately their children are healthy and well and were fine. But having seen the other side (and especially with a subsequent pregnancy where you are out and about early on and surrounded by children), not having the vaccine is not a risk I would be willing to take.

So you had a history of pre-term labour already? Surely that is more likely to be the explanation than the whooping cough vaccine?!

I had it both babies without ever considering not. No issues.

Why are you getting it so late anyway? You can get it from like 20 weeks or something. But you've a) left it till the very cusp of the time that it needs to be effective for your baby and b) left it so late that if you do go into labour again shortly after, entirely likely as you have a history of it, then in your mind it will be conclusive that the vaccine caused it.

@Clefable I've left it so late out of fear. If you don't suffer from anxiety then you won't understand the crippling fear of anything going wrong and the over thinking that happens about pretty much anything. Yes I have history of pre term labour with my eldest BUT the consultant said at the last appointment it was unlikely to happen again because my middle child was born at 39 weeks.

My first child was born prematurely most likely through stress as at the time I was in a highly stressful situation with the father who pretty much abandoned me, I was 18 at that time, I'm a lot older now.

I can have the vaccine up until 38 weeks. It doesn't mean I'm going to stop being scared of the what ifs. I'm sure if you had gone through similar you would also be anxious and having a hard time dealing with it.

OP, for someone with no medical degree you talk with a lot of authority! Please do speak to your consultant and keep an open mind to being persuaded getting the vaccine is the right thing to do.

Consultant told me to have it at 38 weeks. She said if there was the smallest chance it was linked then its best to wait until I'm classed as full term. Il be having it done then.

I’m calling bullshit on this. As an HCP with a family and friends who are doctors, nurses, pharmacists I don’t know any who haven’t vaccinated their children or who would recommend not vaccinating.

And I suspect that none of yours have been anywhere near an icu or acute ward in the last 3 years or they would be a bit more informed about covid.