SS referral by hospital but case closed without following up

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Would I need to disclose this ? I am pregnant and have my booking in app in a couple of weeks.
The safeguarding referral was made by a doctor who hadn't even spoke to me first, he made assumptions about me and why I was there in a&e, the lady from ss called me and said she was satisfied there was no concerns and was closing the case without even speaking to the school.
Does this count as ss being involved ? I'd really rather not mention it if I don't have too...

It was over taking too many paracetamol, I lost track of what I'd had over 24 hours and worried myself when I googled, called the gp who sent me to a&e for bloods.

No they don't ask.

They do ask, literally just had mine a few weeks ago - just explain the situation, can't imagine it'll go anywhere if SS happily closed it with no concerns!

I did think just mention it but I have major anxiety and worried it'll cause issues !

No need to mention. The midwife only wants to know if your child has been on a CIN or CP plan

@Doublechins So this would mean if it went further than that initial phonecall ?
Surely I'm being truthful when I say there's been no involvement, because there hasn't, I had a 20 min phonecall when I explained the situation, explained the reasons I ended up taking too many painkillers (ongoing pain issues made worse by pregnancy) and that I had lots of support etc

They was my midwife phrased it was “are you known to social services” in your case I imagine a simple no would suffice and if anything came up there’s a simple explanation.

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Thank you this has helped ease my mind a little.
I'm just worried I say no, then somehow it's flagged and I'm then seen as suspicious or something !

We’ve recently had a safeguarding concern raised by the hospital treating my elderly mother. Two phone calls from social services to me and her care company, then case closed.

The discharge coordinator at the hospital knew that a safeguarding concern had been raised and then closed. So there must be a record on her file.

When DS was little he dislocated his elbow. The hospital contacted SS as they have to do, SS called us and said they weren't going to do anything. I have never mentioned it when asked about SS involvement as there was no involvement. They are really o my interested if SS have been involved in your lives not that you had one phone call from them to say they weren't interested in taking the referral further.

I only had my baby 9 months ago, so am pregnant again very soon.
It is going to be the same midwife at booking in appointment who I had throughout my last pregnancy, I hope she remembers me and doesn't think to ask the question to be honest !

So what happens is that if you say yes the midwife will contact the local safeguarding hub. If you say no she has no reason to do this. Obviously if you'd lied it would work the other way and the hub would contact the midwife once they found out you were pregnant.

Honestly you have no reason to disclose a social worker once called you

So the local safeguarding wouldn't contact the midwife once I'm booked into the system being pregnant ? I know it sound ridiculous why would they call them over a phonecall but you never know...

No they definitely will not

No there definitely wont be any SS follow up unless there is a new case. My midwife just asks if you have ever been in care or have a current open case with SS at booking in.

Okay. Thank you everybody. I know I sound irrational but the anxiety heightens things and makes me overthink everything.
I won't mention it

So an update - I had my booking in appointment today, I wasn't asked anything about social services...
she did ask about the kids and wanted there date of births though. What do they do with this Information? Do they check there isn't any involvement or something ?
Anxiety taking over again and worrying that that bloody phonecall is going to get flagged up

Anyone any advise please ? Need reassurance more than anything

They will probably do not very much with that information other than record it. If something happened in future like they had an actual safeguarding concern it would be important they had a record of all the children in the family but at the moment they will just be making sure they are up to date.

I had to list my previous births with a bit of info on my booking-in form. I assume it's just so they know what your body has managed before and how it coped. Not having much time between pregnancies will be relevant - you haven't had much time to recover. They just want to look after you and your baby as best they can, honest!

Yes they did want to know how many weeks I was when I went into labour and their birth weights. So maybe it is just that.

Just getting myself into a state about that initial referral from the hospital.
Will it be on my gp records that I rang up and told them I'd taken too many paracetamol?
I did tell them I was too dependent on the cocodamol I was being prescribed at the time aswell hence accidentally taking too many tablets.

I am worrying the midwife will see this stated on my records - I am fine now btw, have a good support network and a good home life. I was just in a lot of pain and not thinking about any risks of taking too much paracetamol

They ask because there's a score chart re risk of dvts etc. Things like a high weight when booking in and having last child over 10yrs ago increase the risk apparently. Also they need to know obstetric history. Were pregnancies OK any issues ie high BP or birth complications. It's all standard stuff.

To ease your mind further I'm a SW. Involvement is classed as having an intervention/assessment of some form. We ring lots of families and if a contact is made to us and is going nowhere we call to let people know. Its your personal info so you have a right to know there's been information put through and a right to know the outcome.

Think of it this way - the hospital should have told you they were putting something through as standard procedure. If no one rang you to say we received this info and don't feel there's a role for SW how worried would you be just waiting to see if the phone rang or door knocked. Honestly it's nothing to worry about. Try relax

Thank you for this reply. It has helped me son down abit.

I had a phonecall off a social worker a couple of days after the referral was made, she was actually very kind and once I explained the situation, how it ended up the way it did and the fact I was now working with the gp to gradually come off my long term medication she was happy to close the case without going any further.

I've just got it into my head that all this is going to cause problems now I'm pregnant. It was only a few months ago.
Do midwife's automatically contact local safeguarding once a woman becomes pregnant ? Or does there need to be a reason?

Usually if we're contacted it's due to a concern raised during the appointment for example a parent saying they were experiencing domestic abuse or having previous involvement. We get contacts where a mum has reported previous involvement and the file is closed amd they'll ring and check and make sure that there's no reason to report a current pregnancy. I would assume that they're too busy to routine contact for every pregnant woman itvwould be too time consuming for both services.

Anyone reporting to social services should inform the family of this and gain consent before doing so unless it is reasonably assumed it would increase any potential risk to a child example such as FII. If midwife is going to contact she should have had this conversation with you or it would likely be refused as lack of consent. It opens a discussion for you amd them to talk about what their worries may be and why they feel a referral would support you. Honestly I would just tell her you've had a phonecall if it's causing you anxiety. I'd be surprised if anything came of it

@HappyJoyousFree Thank you for that, I do suffer with anxiety and tend to focus on one thing and make it into something massive.

I think the main thing I need to remember is the case was closed before it even went anywhere.