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Talk about every stage of pregnancy, from early symptoms to preparing for birth.

Private early viability scan..

23 replies

Blisax · 03/06/2023 17:49

Hey,

I wondered if anyone can give me some positive outcomes about similar situations..
I tested positive (BFP) on 15th May, however I had seen very faint lines for a while beforehand but just not clear enough. All tests I've taken (Maybe 353 currently?? 🤣🤣) have been progressing really well, really strong lines, dye stealers, digital from 1-2 on 15th May, 2-3 on 21st May, then 3+ on the 26th..
Going based on my last period, 19th April, I should be around 7 weeks..So had booked in for a private early viability scan today
The lady literally took 5-10 mins to scan me, she said she could see a sac but nothing else, then gave me a leaflet on unknown pregnancy location- including miscarriage, eptopic.. She said she would rebook me for 2 weeks time but suggests I contact my early pregnancy unit.
I feel absolutely terrible & left really upset.. I guess it's just wait & see but I don't have much hope based on the ladies reaction..
I've attached a picture, thought I could see something but probably just wishful thinking, I'm also not a professional..
Sorry for the long post, just desperate to see if there's been any good outcomes
Thanks..

Private early viability scan..
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JD90 · 03/06/2023 18:03

Was it an internal or external scan? At this early stage there is a big difference between what is visible between the two types. Good luck, ring your local epu tomorrow and see what they say, but be prepared for them to tell you that you'll have to get your gp to make the referral to them (hopefully they can accept a self referral though)

Dubaibutwhy · 03/06/2023 18:09

Do you know how big the sac was?

Blisax · 03/06/2023 18:15

@JD90 Thank you for your reply.. It was internal, she started off externally but she could only see the sac, however she didn't seen anything else when she swapped to internal anyway, so I just don't know what to think now, she said the epu might give me a blood test or my gp 🤷‍♀️

@Dubaibutwhy I was told that a sac the size she measured would be something you'd see at 5 weeks gestation..
10mm my report says

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lemonaddde · 03/06/2023 18:20

Could your dates be off?

I had a scan at around 7 weeks and I could see a little blob inside the black hole area.

mashm24 · 03/06/2023 18:26

Hey - could your dates be a little off? My last period was the 22nd April and I'm around 5/6 weeks - not 7? Xx

Basilthymerosemary · 03/06/2023 18:33

Had an early pregnancy scan at 7 weeks 4 days and you could see the heart beating from an external scan.

Hopefully it's just your dates that are wrong and fingers crossed that it's all ok. X

LadyJ2023 · 03/06/2023 18:40

Don't worry not once but twice they told me nothing there and now we have twins and a single in last 2 years. If I had done what they wanted the first time gone for the procedure to clear you put we would have no son and when they said if for next not only did it not pick up on twins it didn't pick up anything other than a sac. We changed hospital and hey presto all was fine

Blisax · 03/06/2023 18:44

Thanks for all the replies..
My dates could be off, I am also going by the tracking app, which put me at 7 weeks. I've no idea how to track it right, according to the app I ovulated about a week later, but I suppose that doesn't mean anything either!
I'm going to contact my epu, see what they say, they might just tell me to wait also, I don't see them scanning me again.
Hopefully a couple of weeks I'll see something more

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tulipsunday · 03/06/2023 19:38

So judging by last period you should be around 6wks 3. Though may be less if you ovulated and implanted late so things could potentially be ok. Will keep everything crossed for you xx

TheShellBeach · 03/06/2023 19:45

Hi OP.
By LMP you're 6 + 3.
If you ovulated a week late, you're only 5 + 3.

That probably explains why the ultrasonographer couldn't see much.

If you book another scan in a fortnight you will hopefully get a better result.

I hope things work out for you.

Blisax · 03/06/2023 19:52

Thank you all
I'm going to definitely book in for another scan in 2 weeks, going by everyone's advice, I think my dates are definitely wrong.. I'll update when I get another scan
Trying so hard to stay positive ❤️

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Angelik · 03/06/2023 19:58

Please for your own mental wellbeing stop testing and scanning. If the pregnancy doesn't progress there's nothing you can do about it. If the pregnancy continues and I really hope it does, you can't spend every day in this state of mind. You will be a mess and have a miserable pregnancy. Just wait. I know it's difficult but I think it is best.

TheShellBeach · 03/06/2023 20:38

Angelik · 03/06/2023 19:58

Please for your own mental wellbeing stop testing and scanning. If the pregnancy doesn't progress there's nothing you can do about it. If the pregnancy continues and I really hope it does, you can't spend every day in this state of mind. You will be a mess and have a miserable pregnancy. Just wait. I know it's difficult but I think it is best.

This is true.

Blisax · 03/06/2023 21:03

I'm going to try
I struggle mentally in my life with everything unfortunately, I was on anxiety meds before I found out I was pregnant & have berm advised to come off them by gp.
Obviously the number of tests I put above was an exaggeration, but I am a total avid panicker I won't lie!

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Blisax · 04/06/2023 18:42

Just an update.. I contacted my epu, as the woman who did the scan advised me to do
They weren't happy with the advice the woman has given - they've told me not to go back & I've to go for a scan with them on Monday the 12th June.
I'm feeling alot better after my conversation with the lady at the epu, she was really understanding & helpful!
So now to wait & see!

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SaveMeFromMyBoobs · 04/06/2023 18:53

Unfortunately this is why midwives HATE private early scans. They book you in from 6 weeks, see you for 5 mins, throw their hands up in the air and say they don't know, say something could be wrong and throw you out on the pavement and leave the NHS to pick up the pieces. Even then there isn't much they can do beside saying come back in a couple weeks so these poor women are in hell worrying for 2 weeks unnecessarily. It's so common for women to be a week or two out, and you can't see much at all before 8 weeks.

Waiting until you think you're 9-10 weeks is best if you are going for a private scan. Even if your dates are wrong you should see something!

TheShellBeach · 04/06/2023 19:54

Waiting until you think you're 9-10 weeks is best if you are going for a private scan. Even if your dates are wrong you should see something!

Absolutely this.
I'm also a midwife and I cannot understand why women are prepared to pay a lot of money for a so-called "reassurance" scan, which generally does the complete opposite.

There are countless threads on here on this topic.

I have every sympathy with women who are anxious in pregnancy. I had a great many miscarriages myself and I know the agony of wondering if everything is going to be all right. But the reality is this: if you're going to lose your baby, it will happen, no matter how many pregnancy tests and scans you have.

You pregnancy is either viable or it is not.

Seriously, stop wasting your money. The NHS will scan you between 12 - 14 weeks, (and prior to that if you have pain or bleeding).

Blisax · 04/06/2023 20:20

Look, I understand what you are all saying but I'd appreciate less of the judgemental comments! Clearly if you are a midwife you are going to know this! I'm sorry you've lost in the past as have I
I've actually had a loss at 32 weeks, so I'm sorry if there's a lot of anxiety involved in this pregnancy! This is the first time I've been pregnant again since this
So thank you, for the kind words. But I will not be looking to this forum for help again

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elm26 · 04/06/2023 20:34

OP, I get it.

After 13 miscarriages, I had a scan at 6 weeks, 8 weeks, 10 weeks, 12 weeks, 20 weeks then growth scans from 28 weeks onwards.

So sorry to hear of your loss and I'm praying for the best outcome ♥️

JC89 · 04/06/2023 20:35

@TheShellBeach You really don't sound like you have every sympathy with women who are anxious in pregnancy. I had my NHS scan at 13 weeks and was told the pregnancy hadn't progressed beyond 5 weeks. So the whole time I had symptoms (nausea, vomiting, and exhaustion meaning that I could not be there for my toddler as much as I would like) there was nothing there but an empty sac. There was no unusual pain, there was one drop of blood the night before the scan.

For the next pregnancy I had a private scan at 8 weeks, which fortunately showed a heartbeat - these scans can give good news and can be reassuring. And honestly if there was a problem, I wanted to know sooner rather than later, timing would have made a difference to me.

I got nothing from the NHS until 13+4 when I had my dating scan, but knowing the pregnancy had at least got started helped get the through the first trimester. I had zero confidence in my body's ability to know if something had gone wrong, as it had taken 8 weeks the previous time. People have their reasons for wanting these scans, it does not help anyone to feel judged for wanting reassurance.

Hardbackwriter · 04/06/2023 20:45

Great post and I really agree with you @JC89. I would also note that the NHS is unusual compared to a lot of other European health systems in how late it offers a first scan, or indeed any antenatal care. If they did anything at all for women in the first trimester then they might not find that so many were so anxious that they felt the need to pay for private scans.

TheShellBeach · 04/06/2023 20:53

Blisax · 04/06/2023 20:20

Look, I understand what you are all saying but I'd appreciate less of the judgemental comments! Clearly if you are a midwife you are going to know this! I'm sorry you've lost in the past as have I
I've actually had a loss at 32 weeks, so I'm sorry if there's a lot of anxiety involved in this pregnancy! This is the first time I've been pregnant again since this
So thank you, for the kind words. But I will not be looking to this forum for help again

I'm sorry. I really didn't mean to upset you.

SaveMeFromMyBoobs · 04/06/2023 21:01

I'm very sorry about your losses. I agree a scan should be offered earlier by the NHS (8-10 weeks). However, any earlier than this really does risk causing mum more anxiety because even at 6 weeks a heart beat may not be seen, not taking into account dates being wrong, and all they can do is book you in a couple weeks later leaving mum with an awful wait thinking she's lost her baby. Waiting until 9-10 weeks for a private scan is best for reassurance rather than risking further anxiety. That means even if you're a week out on your dates you're 8 weeks and should see something.

But the NHS doesn't have the capacity to do another scan for everyone, and the 12 week scan has the screening tests, which 8-10 weeks is too early for. The NHS do give early reassurance scans to women who have a history of miscarriages though.

I hope you have a happy and safe pregnancy OP, I can't imagine the grief of losing your baby at 32 weeks. I hope you engage with antenatal mental health help for this pregnancy for your anxiety. I understand wanting reassurance, but the reassurance scans bring is often short lived, and I can imagine this will be even harder for you having had such a late loss and surrounding trauma.

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