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Talk about every stage of pregnancy, from early symptoms to preparing for birth.

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49 replies

ChristmaBaby2023 · 26/04/2023 19:11

I am pregnant by a married man who has children. I told him today and he was devastated. He has begged me to have an abortion. He said he can't see any way about apart from killing himself if I go through with it. I don't think I could survive an abortion, I don't want one but I also don't know if I could live knowing something happened to him and his family because of me. I feel absolutely distraught and I have no idea what to do. I have nobody to talk to, I can't even get an appointment with my doctor. I really don't want anyone calling him names etc...he's devastated and I'm not making excuses for him, because I can see he feels absolute despair and I am genuinely concerned for him. I have zero hope that he will feel any differently. Can anyone advise me?

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OneMoreCookieMonster · 26/04/2023 19:49

@ChristmaBaby2023 - so sorry you're going through this. No judgement from me at all.

If keeping the baby is what you want then that's your choice to make. End of.

Anyone who threatens to kill themselves is very unlikely to follow through. As pps have said he's shit scared of what this will do to his family and marriage. If you weren't sure before, now it's clear. He doesn't have any intentions of leaving them for you.

You have a lot to untangle here and work through. Please seek counselling if you are able to.

If you choose to keep the baby and want maintenence (which is by right your's to claim) then let him know. You may have to block him and go through cms. There will others who can probably provide better advice regarding this. Or you may choose to have nothing to do with him.

Whatever, it is. I hope you're OK and can make the right choice for you. This is going to sound harsh but clearly either of you weren't bothered about the fall out if his wife found out, why should you care now?

YukoandHiro · 26/04/2023 19:49

Do what is right for you. You don't have to put him on the birth certificate or give him any access if this js how he is behaving about a situation he has created himself.

Try to make the decision for you and your future, not him

ArcticBells · 26/04/2023 19:51

Your choice but you must realise that this man will not leave his family for you.

Louoby · 26/04/2023 19:52

He absolutely won't kill himself - he's being dramatic! Has he got a wife also and your the OW? As that would obviously have an effect on his family life. If your wanting to keep your baby and your happy to go through with it alone then just tell him he doesn't need to be involved. It's a get out clause for him.

LakeTiticaca · 26/04/2023 20:15

He will be crapping his pants in case his wife finds out. Unlikely to kill himself. Just remind him you didn't get pregnant on your own. It takes two. Then tell him to get the hell out of your life

Milkand2sugarsplease · 26/04/2023 20:21

He's shutting himself because he knows if you keep the baby, there is no way he's not going to be found out!!

Don't let him blackmail you.

If you want to keep the baby, do so, let him worry about the consequences of his actions. If he'd been that bothered, he wouldn't have cheated on his wife.

And maybe don't sleep with any more married men, I'm pretty sure you wouldn't like being cheated on.

JussathoB · 26/04/2023 20:23

Hi OP. Firstly, you must decide for yourself whether you wish to continue with the pregnancy or not. Do not under any circumstances choose to have an abortion because a man wants you to.
secondly, no one should insist you do something otherwise they will kill themselves. This is emotional blackmail if the worst kind and is disgraceful cowardice and selfishness.
You have agency in this, your body , your pregnancy.
Do not expect much from this man, he has shown he is going to fail to live up to reasonable expectations.

Bashshell · 26/04/2023 20:27

He is an adult responsible for himself so as horrific as it would be if he did something like that , that’s a decision that’s on him not you.

I’d maybe just try to distance yourself from him, and work out what you want to do. Regardless of your decision you should steer clear of him in the future.

oliveandwell · 26/04/2023 20:52

He's not going to kill himself.

You do what you want, you don't have to involve him.

If you did want an abortion then call BPAS or Marie Stopes not your doctor.

If you want to carry on with the pregnancy then you self refer to your nearest (or preferred) hospital.

OopsieOopsieDaisy · 26/04/2023 20:59

as a single mum … I just want to advise caution. It’s bloody hard. Please don’t underestimate the task ahead of you.

this man is not going to help you and not only that, but if you go ahead, you are committing yourself to a life in which you never, ever get to cut ties with him psychologically. If you love him that may currently sound appealing but as the chips come down for you as they eventually will, you are going to drop to your knees and pray to all the gods for him to die just so your life doesn’t have to be connected to his anymore.

By the sounds of it, I doubt this relationship has been plain sailing. Imagine how frustrated you feel with him sometimes. Imagine breaking up with him, riding into the sunset with the wind in your hair and the freedom, freedom, freedom of moving on with your life, onwards to new chapters and adventures, to new uncomplicated loves, where your partner respects you and treats you well instead of as a sex service , pretending to love you.

please don’t underestimate the suffocation you are going to swallow down for the rest of your life that you will never be able to be psychologically free from him - to do the above - walk away and cut ties. Emotionally, you will adore yor baby of course, but a little piece of you will always connect your child to the absolute piece of shit who was happy to get you pregnant but then abandoned you both.

Even worse.. as your love for your child grows and grows, you will become frightened. What if the father comes back in the scene? Again you might like that thought now. I promise you, you will not like that thought in future. You will wake up in cold sweats with the fear that he could swoop in and try to interfere with your child’s settled, happy, life. It will break your heart to think of this happening. I am not exaggerating. Sometimes when my child smiles his beautiful, beaming smile, I fight back tears - over my dead body will his dad ever be allowed back into our lives to cause him hurt or confusion. But I know it won’t be so easy to prevent it.

This may even impact on your feelings when the baby is born. Prepare yourself for possibly needing postnatal therapy.

Can you afford it?

Do you have the means for raise a child alone?

Nursery fees in London are £2k+ a month. not sure where you’re living but think about that if you want to keep your job.

do you have a reasonable place to live, is it stable? Do you live near family? You are going to need help.

When I was pregnant people kept telling me to put food in the freezer. I thought they were a bit ott - I love to cook, what the prob I thought?

OP- you are going to need twenty freezer full of food if you are preparing yourself for single parenthood.

how do you feel about sleep - important to you? You will rarely sleep for the first few months.

Can afford prams, cots, clothes, toys, activities?

do you like any hobbies at the moment? Dinners, travel, sports, even Netflix?

I used to love all of these things. They will come back into my life , I know, but you will learn too, when you don’t have a partner, you will have to give up these things for some time

My advice to you op - tread very carefully.

if you want this child go ahead but be very clear - the father is not in love with you and he is going to leave you to it.

if you want the baby do a test with yourself. Call your lover and break up with him. Mean it. Block him on your phone and email. Then set your alarm for 11pm, 1am, 3am, 5am, for the next week. Put on a YouTube video of a baby crying for a hour each time and pace around your room sing lullabies. At 7am get ready to go to work. Keep going to work. When you get back from work put something to eat in the microwave, wolf it down, don’t shower. Got to bed. Don’t shower in the morning either. See how you feel after that in a week.

my baby’s father was not married btw, so I don’t know what it’s like to be the other woman. But I do know what it’s like to be strung along, to be in denial about it, and to be given the reality check of my life on the day my baby was born.
And then…. no going back now.

obviously, I wouldn’t go back now, me and my baby are an inseparable unit and I wouldn’t have it any other way.

but it’s bloody bloody bloody hard Op, never have I experienced anything as hard as this. for some time, I would not have survived without my family to emotionally support me.

if you don’t live near your family I’m going to buck the trend on this thread - and to say - don’t do it .

you will have other chances to have children, and in better circumstances.

once again, please don’t underestimate the difference between a good circumstance and a bad one , when it comes to having a child.

IJustHadToLookHavingReadTheBook · 26/04/2023 21:16

He won't kill himself. The kind of man who has unprotected sex with someone other than his wife and then threatens suicide when she gets pregnant is exactly the kind of guy very unlikely to actually go through with killing himself. Trust me, I've known this type of twat.

If you want to keep your baby, keep your baby. The consequences to his life are his to worry about, not yours.

And please don't feel sorry for this man. Save your sympathy for yourself and what you're going through. Good luck.

viques · 26/04/2023 21:27

I agree with many of the pp. If he thinks so much of his own needs that he can’t even be bothered to wear a condom , he is not going to sort out the issue and inconvenience himself by killing himself, because selfish men don’t put themselves out, they try to coerce other people into doing stuff to solve their problems, which is what he is doing to you.

I am sorry it has taken this for you to realise what a manipulative twat he is, I expect looking back you can see all the signs you ignored, so make sure you remember them for the next time you start a relationship.

Ttcmumma · 26/04/2023 21:55

OopsieOopsieDaisy · 26/04/2023 20:59

as a single mum … I just want to advise caution. It’s bloody hard. Please don’t underestimate the task ahead of you.

this man is not going to help you and not only that, but if you go ahead, you are committing yourself to a life in which you never, ever get to cut ties with him psychologically. If you love him that may currently sound appealing but as the chips come down for you as they eventually will, you are going to drop to your knees and pray to all the gods for him to die just so your life doesn’t have to be connected to his anymore.

By the sounds of it, I doubt this relationship has been plain sailing. Imagine how frustrated you feel with him sometimes. Imagine breaking up with him, riding into the sunset with the wind in your hair and the freedom, freedom, freedom of moving on with your life, onwards to new chapters and adventures, to new uncomplicated loves, where your partner respects you and treats you well instead of as a sex service , pretending to love you.

please don’t underestimate the suffocation you are going to swallow down for the rest of your life that you will never be able to be psychologically free from him - to do the above - walk away and cut ties. Emotionally, you will adore yor baby of course, but a little piece of you will always connect your child to the absolute piece of shit who was happy to get you pregnant but then abandoned you both.

Even worse.. as your love for your child grows and grows, you will become frightened. What if the father comes back in the scene? Again you might like that thought now. I promise you, you will not like that thought in future. You will wake up in cold sweats with the fear that he could swoop in and try to interfere with your child’s settled, happy, life. It will break your heart to think of this happening. I am not exaggerating. Sometimes when my child smiles his beautiful, beaming smile, I fight back tears - over my dead body will his dad ever be allowed back into our lives to cause him hurt or confusion. But I know it won’t be so easy to prevent it.

This may even impact on your feelings when the baby is born. Prepare yourself for possibly needing postnatal therapy.

Can you afford it?

Do you have the means for raise a child alone?

Nursery fees in London are £2k+ a month. not sure where you’re living but think about that if you want to keep your job.

do you have a reasonable place to live, is it stable? Do you live near family? You are going to need help.

When I was pregnant people kept telling me to put food in the freezer. I thought they were a bit ott - I love to cook, what the prob I thought?

OP- you are going to need twenty freezer full of food if you are preparing yourself for single parenthood.

how do you feel about sleep - important to you? You will rarely sleep for the first few months.

Can afford prams, cots, clothes, toys, activities?

do you like any hobbies at the moment? Dinners, travel, sports, even Netflix?

I used to love all of these things. They will come back into my life , I know, but you will learn too, when you don’t have a partner, you will have to give up these things for some time

My advice to you op - tread very carefully.

if you want this child go ahead but be very clear - the father is not in love with you and he is going to leave you to it.

if you want the baby do a test with yourself. Call your lover and break up with him. Mean it. Block him on your phone and email. Then set your alarm for 11pm, 1am, 3am, 5am, for the next week. Put on a YouTube video of a baby crying for a hour each time and pace around your room sing lullabies. At 7am get ready to go to work. Keep going to work. When you get back from work put something to eat in the microwave, wolf it down, don’t shower. Got to bed. Don’t shower in the morning either. See how you feel after that in a week.

my baby’s father was not married btw, so I don’t know what it’s like to be the other woman. But I do know what it’s like to be strung along, to be in denial about it, and to be given the reality check of my life on the day my baby was born.
And then…. no going back now.

obviously, I wouldn’t go back now, me and my baby are an inseparable unit and I wouldn’t have it any other way.

but it’s bloody bloody bloody hard Op, never have I experienced anything as hard as this. for some time, I would not have survived without my family to emotionally support me.

if you don’t live near your family I’m going to buck the trend on this thread - and to say - don’t do it .

you will have other chances to have children, and in better circumstances.

once again, please don’t underestimate the difference between a good circumstance and a bad one , when it comes to having a child.

This is a little dramatic... I've been a single mum for nearly 5 years and ive never not managed a shower for a long period of time just as example of one of the things you mentioned here... My son's dad sees him but never looks after him away from me, hasn't given me a penny towards him... This is a lot of scare tactics from you who seems to have not enjoyed parenting. Being a single mum is not as bad as this, I actually find it easier than the year I was with his dad 🤦🏼‍♀️

mrssunshinexxx · 27/04/2023 00:19

It's your choice OP but I wouldn't have a baby where from the off I am not giving it the best chance of a loving stable home with both parents z

anotherscroller · 27/04/2023 03:51

OopsieOopsieDaisy · 26/04/2023 20:59

as a single mum … I just want to advise caution. It’s bloody hard. Please don’t underestimate the task ahead of you.

this man is not going to help you and not only that, but if you go ahead, you are committing yourself to a life in which you never, ever get to cut ties with him psychologically. If you love him that may currently sound appealing but as the chips come down for you as they eventually will, you are going to drop to your knees and pray to all the gods for him to die just so your life doesn’t have to be connected to his anymore.

By the sounds of it, I doubt this relationship has been plain sailing. Imagine how frustrated you feel with him sometimes. Imagine breaking up with him, riding into the sunset with the wind in your hair and the freedom, freedom, freedom of moving on with your life, onwards to new chapters and adventures, to new uncomplicated loves, where your partner respects you and treats you well instead of as a sex service , pretending to love you.

please don’t underestimate the suffocation you are going to swallow down for the rest of your life that you will never be able to be psychologically free from him - to do the above - walk away and cut ties. Emotionally, you will adore yor baby of course, but a little piece of you will always connect your child to the absolute piece of shit who was happy to get you pregnant but then abandoned you both.

Even worse.. as your love for your child grows and grows, you will become frightened. What if the father comes back in the scene? Again you might like that thought now. I promise you, you will not like that thought in future. You will wake up in cold sweats with the fear that he could swoop in and try to interfere with your child’s settled, happy, life. It will break your heart to think of this happening. I am not exaggerating. Sometimes when my child smiles his beautiful, beaming smile, I fight back tears - over my dead body will his dad ever be allowed back into our lives to cause him hurt or confusion. But I know it won’t be so easy to prevent it.

This may even impact on your feelings when the baby is born. Prepare yourself for possibly needing postnatal therapy.

Can you afford it?

Do you have the means for raise a child alone?

Nursery fees in London are £2k+ a month. not sure where you’re living but think about that if you want to keep your job.

do you have a reasonable place to live, is it stable? Do you live near family? You are going to need help.

When I was pregnant people kept telling me to put food in the freezer. I thought they were a bit ott - I love to cook, what the prob I thought?

OP- you are going to need twenty freezer full of food if you are preparing yourself for single parenthood.

how do you feel about sleep - important to you? You will rarely sleep for the first few months.

Can afford prams, cots, clothes, toys, activities?

do you like any hobbies at the moment? Dinners, travel, sports, even Netflix?

I used to love all of these things. They will come back into my life , I know, but you will learn too, when you don’t have a partner, you will have to give up these things for some time

My advice to you op - tread very carefully.

if you want this child go ahead but be very clear - the father is not in love with you and he is going to leave you to it.

if you want the baby do a test with yourself. Call your lover and break up with him. Mean it. Block him on your phone and email. Then set your alarm for 11pm, 1am, 3am, 5am, for the next week. Put on a YouTube video of a baby crying for a hour each time and pace around your room sing lullabies. At 7am get ready to go to work. Keep going to work. When you get back from work put something to eat in the microwave, wolf it down, don’t shower. Got to bed. Don’t shower in the morning either. See how you feel after that in a week.

my baby’s father was not married btw, so I don’t know what it’s like to be the other woman. But I do know what it’s like to be strung along, to be in denial about it, and to be given the reality check of my life on the day my baby was born.
And then…. no going back now.

obviously, I wouldn’t go back now, me and my baby are an inseparable unit and I wouldn’t have it any other way.

but it’s bloody bloody bloody hard Op, never have I experienced anything as hard as this. for some time, I would not have survived without my family to emotionally support me.

if you don’t live near your family I’m going to buck the trend on this thread - and to say - don’t do it .

you will have other chances to have children, and in better circumstances.

once again, please don’t underestimate the difference between a good circumstance and a bad one , when it comes to having a child.

I see what you’re doing here and see your point, and I can see how you’re trying to help OP, but these kind of ‘exercises’ simply can’t be done without there being a baby there. Whether a single mum or a mum with another parent around, none of us could ever have contemplated how we got through what we got through, we just did. Because it was for our babies. You can’t prepare for it like a military training exercise.

Also, my friend lives in London and her nursery fees are £1100. So not necessarily £2k+. And there’s the new childcare law coming in.

Missingmyusername · 27/04/2023 04:07

Forget him.

What do you want? Do you want the baby?

Sundelight · 27/04/2023 04:24

My ex said ill kill him if I have the baby, he was lying. And now he sees her. Don't believe him, you are right he's desperate so he's pulling all stop don't believe a word of it

overthinkersanonnymus · 27/04/2023 08:45

LauderSyme · 26/04/2023 19:18

If you want to keep your baby then that's what you must do. He is highly unlikely to kill himself, he's trying to manipulate you using what he thinks is the absolute nuclear option. Also, he is not devastated, he is terrified.

This

lljkk · 27/04/2023 08:47

What will you do, OP?

Please let it be the welfare check at his home

3luckystars · 27/04/2023 08:51

You must be in a total state right now.

do you want to keep the baby, even if it was on you own? Do you have anyone you can talk to?

Forget him. He is a liar so you can’t believe anything he says.

OopsieOopsieDaisy · 27/04/2023 14:12

Yes you’re right I was a bit dramatic last night writing that. OP brought me right back to where i was a few years ago and it was an emotional time. Prob shouldn’t reply to posts in the evening..

I do still think that OP should be careful . I love being a parent and I love my child but it is not easy and I feel the op is in a naive place.. this much is obvious because being the lover of a married man is naive.

there is always the hope that he will leave the wife and it’s so sad, because these men don’t love their wives or children or their lovers, they love only themselves.

yes maybe I went a bit heavy on the scare tactics.. but this is a major decision and should not be taken lightly. Certainly not in the hopes that a selfish man will come to help.. but that’s a point that others have made

I continue to believe that having a child in better circumstances would be better for the child and for OP. That doesn’t mean child won’t be loved or have a happy life.

Whochangedmynamec · 27/04/2023 14:19

But he chose to sleep with you while he knew he was married? Why is the consequence of his actions a surprise to him?

OP anyone threatening to kill themselves to get you to have an abortion is emotional abuse and manipulation. If he is so upset he shouldn’t have had sex with you.

I can see you feeling sorry for this liar. Take it from someone who has believed the lies (not married men but general man lies iyswim) you can kill that baby and all he will feel is relieved for himself. Bullet dodged. He can keep his marriage and house and kids and keep cheating on the side. Because only his feeling matter.

Make the decision that is best for you. For your life. If you want the baby, keep it. Get child maintenance from him. Don’t deny that baby what is rightfully theirs.

If you don’t want it, terminate. Get some support please OP as it is a major decision.

Then, put your head over your heart and evaluate. Is this lying, self serving man really what you need in your life. Don’t you deserve better?

All the best Op💐

mischlerischler · 27/04/2023 14:25

He won't do it. He is just manipulating you as he is probably terrified his wife will find out.

Don't get talked into it, if that's not what you want to do.

If you can manage to be a single mum, then go for it. But please don't rely on him leaving his wife and kids. He won't do it.

Ttcmumma · 27/04/2023 17:08

OopsieOopsieDaisy · 27/04/2023 14:12

Yes you’re right I was a bit dramatic last night writing that. OP brought me right back to where i was a few years ago and it was an emotional time. Prob shouldn’t reply to posts in the evening..

I do still think that OP should be careful . I love being a parent and I love my child but it is not easy and I feel the op is in a naive place.. this much is obvious because being the lover of a married man is naive.

there is always the hope that he will leave the wife and it’s so sad, because these men don’t love their wives or children or their lovers, they love only themselves.

yes maybe I went a bit heavy on the scare tactics.. but this is a major decision and should not be taken lightly. Certainly not in the hopes that a selfish man will come to help.. but that’s a point that others have made

I continue to believe that having a child in better circumstances would be better for the child and for OP. That doesn’t mean child won’t be loved or have a happy life.

I agree that she shouldn't make a decision based on wanting him but I don't think that's necessarily the case. It is a naive situation to be in and I don't agree with being the mistress at all anyway. I have had an abortion, a child and a miscarriage and although I am a single mum (all pregnancies were by the same father, that sounds so messy 😅) I am still happiest with the outcome of my living child. I was planning to have the baby I sadly miscarried too as after my abortion I can never forgive myself.

It was for the best for the situation and lifestyle I was in at the time but I will never forget that I could have had that baby, that I chose to stop their heart from beating and honestly never looked at myself the same way since. I was naively almost forced into the abortion, or forced into thinking it was my only option anyway and if I could go back in time.... I never would have had that abortion for that man. He wanted me to abort my living child and miscarried child. Honestly the only thing I regret about any of this is staying in a situation with the same man! My child is the best thing that ever happened to me and he thrives even without a proper nuclear family, he has so much love around him regardless.

I guess my experiences too make me a little sensitive to the situation and yes being a single parent is hard but honestly my sister's who are married with amazing husbands are struggling with their little babies just as much as I was as a single mum 😅 parenthood is hard! But so worth it

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