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Severe Mental Health Issue (Circumstances Too Difficult) Please Talk With Me?

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KickAssMumma · 31/03/2023 06:41

Hi all.

I have some mental health issues (depression and anxiety, some past psychosis and other issues no longer relevant particularly tho they are becoming so- for example the more desperately unhappy and depressed and unable to fix it I get the more likely I am to get to psychosis level of depression, if that makes sense. Only mention this as it’s something I have worked hard on the past couple of years so don’t really have issues this severe anymore. Tho it is ramping up now. Hope that makes sense).

I am 33 weeks pregnant. For ease I’ll just bullet point the issues I have dealt with during this pregnancy-

*Many triggers to past trauma due to my childhood - happy to elaborate if you feel necessary. If not let’s just say extreme trauma
*Childs father not at all interested so been doing this all alone
*Only recently been able to have some kind of normal ish relationship with my father, mother passed as did my Nan who was my second mum but dad isn’t much use re support. Has two new kids of his own so he can’t afford to drive to me but currently spending hundreds on redecorating his new kids rooms and on weed when I need him for once in my life
*Only have two friends I can rely on fully (one is birth partner both are amazing but have full busy lives of their own)
*Was homeless for two months in a disgusting pub hotel pregnant and alone early pregnancy. Was lucky to get my new home but have had to make it a home on my own doing the job of two people/ parents and things I shouldn’t be doing pregnant- ie moving large items such as bed, and putting together lots of household items and baby items ie the cumbersome and large cot, other furniture items like my daybed etc
*Until I got my pip back payment (unexpected) I had nothing. At all. Was living on 340 a month with no furniture and no baby items- only (very gratefully) received donations ie a bed and some baby items. Tho now me and baby are all set thanks to pip back payment and the increase monthly now with regular pip meaning I can finally stop having to have food banks
*Grandad passed away and this has left a massive lasting legacy of grief now as now I have lost all “authoritative/parental” type figures and it’s just me and I miss my grandad and it’s scary
*I have LOADS left to do, with no one at all to help me. For example organising my baby items, some house things like a lock for the back gate/ putting up my back garden camera/ sending off maternity grant forms and so so much more. The issue is I am so so so so tired ALL THE TIME and baby is more often than not putting pressure on my diaphragm so my breathing is wheezy. This is before I get to this-
*I have a flat that is just terrible re the state the walls have been left in. There isn’t much I can do or anyone can do re the living room and hall walls and they are in such dire condition they need skimming really. I can’t paint over them or paper/ line them as they’re truly terrible. Then there’s the rest of the decorating to do. This is important to me this is my first baby and as ridiculous as it may sound, I need to start this journey with my boy perfectly as I can due to my own trauma and how I was brought up. The idea of bringing my baby home to this undecorated crack house looking walls (I have carpet it’s clean but the walls truly look like a crack den sometimes I just want to burn the fucker down I hate looking at it) and I still need to put my tv bracket on these unstable useless walls etc etc it all sets off my trauma and I know it’s not particularly reasonable- a baby won’t care. But I do. And I can’t do it after baby comes cos I’ll STILL be alone and STILL tired - in fact more so.
*My uncle is vile. 4 weeks or so pregnant he screamed at me to abort. Then a few weeks ago he was asking me questions and we were talking and I told him about the couple of men on my street who have tried to push my boundaries and have been sexually inappropriate and he literally went OFF HIS HEAD screaming at me (I’m really not exaggerating I was shocked into silence and I can tell you this written essay reflects the amount I actually verbally talk too haha I’m not easily stunned into silence) about how I’m having all these men in my home and be a crap mother (no men have been in here I don’t know where he got that from). I have pushed away most of what he said and I’m not inclined to fit into my mind to recall them as it was vile and distressing enough at the time. So I literally have no family. He even brought up my divorce for now where it wasn’t relevant and it confused me.
*I am really isolated in this area. To get to the centre of town where activities and such are, it’s a long journey and with my sciatic pain it’s hard enough to walk the usual 5 mins (now hobbling 15mins) to the nearby centre for shopping/ prescriptions etc. When I get back I’m in extreme agony. At the moment I can’t do it at all and I need my epilepsy medication. I’m too tired
*This area is also massively undeserved re mum groups/ baby/ pregnancy groups. I am literally alone. I tried to make a community and friends but as above the two men were inappropriate so I can no longer comfortably visit the lady next door who I like who is disabled cos her husband kept going for a hug which I dislike anyway as I don’t know him then kissing me on my mouth so fast I didn’t have time to even think let alone move and the other thing he did was when he was sat on the opposite side of his wife and I was in the middle, the dog they have was lay on my leg and he kept stroking the dog but really stretching his thumb out to rub my leg at the same time and it made me feel vile. I kept moving but the dog was leaning on me so just flopped back into me. I couldn’t exactly say anything as it was so sneaky cos all he would say is “I’m just stroking the dog” but he wasn’t.
*Im sure there is more but this is the idea of it. I am lucky in some ways. I’ll list those -

*My midwife, perinatal mental health team, other mental health team support are amazing and I am engaging heavily with them.
*I have only lovely older neighbour above me, I went to visit him last night for paracetamol and we ended up having a really nice hour or so just doing silly quizzes on YouTube and things and he is so very very appropriate and normal (so far as I can tell and my spidey senses about such things due to past trauma tends to be good- only times they aren’t are when I ignore them like with the other two)
*My pip back payment meant I could afford all I needed for me, home, security (cameras etc) and most importantly baby. Inc decorating items if only I could actually do this. But these walls 🤦‍♀️
*Other items I needed have been donated to me (like lots of clothes that I couldn’t have afforded even with the back payment cos I would have had to choose- but the kindness of strangers means I have both newly bought by me, and given second hand by others, baby items in abundance and don’t have to worry about anything for baby or me for a good long time now. Of course hardly rolling in luxury items but that isn’t my goal. Just what we need and a few extra items that make life easier as I will be alone when baby is here.
*My friend of the two she is being my birth partner and has informed her work of my due date and told them she could need to leave two weeks either side of that with no notice and they are fine and she’s been amazing
*My baby is healthy and I am too (physically)

But I’m not coping. I have so much to do and I just CANT. I have come this far on my own on my hands and knees mentally crawling and scraping to make a good life it’s like I have ran out now. Had a mental health crisis yesterday. Feeling better today. I’m just so lonely. I need some help. I feel like if I could just have someone stay with me one week and help me so I don’t have to do anything too heavy cos it’s dangerous- or even just sit while I potter around for the moral support then I might be able to manage this last leg. But two friends and a useless dad it’s not much by way of options and they can’t they have their own lives and jobs.

I’m fed up. Lonely. Scared. Angry. I feel like the abandoned child all over again.

And if I hear one more time “it’ll be worth it when he’s here” or alternatively “just wait til you get no sleep and all shitty nappies” I think I will scream so loud the world goes deaf. I KNOW IT WILL BE WORTH IT. I KNOW IT WONT BE EASY. But these things don’t help me NOW. They just make me impatient without being able to prep cos I CAN’T DO IT ALONE ANYMORE. And also terrified of no sleep and it being harder. COS ILL STILL BE ALONE.

Im so done. So done.

I miss my body. I miss my life. I miss being able to be selfish and not worry and stand on a chair and paint and not put my baby in danger. I spent 35 years building a certain personality that has protected and kept me mostly sane and become who I am due to trauma and hasn’t always been healthy but it was ME and it’s been stripped away entirely now and I don’t know what to do with that. 35 years of trauma responses and personality based on such and suddenly it’s gone. For example my fierce independence. Gone. Now I need people and no one is here.

I don’t know what I expect here. Vent I guess. I don’t know. Coffee doesn’t help my energy. I never used to be able to drink or even sniff a coffee as it’ll send me hyper! Now I can have a strong one (I know not recommended but Jesus I’m desperate for energy my body hurts and mental health so bad laying around all day) I can have a strong one and just pass right out exhausted.

I created a “me” who was so kick ass and fiercely independent I could do all this stuff I need to do in a day and not bat an eye. Now I’m a useless piece of nothing and it takes all I have to clean. Cos I won’t live in a mess on top of the crap I have to do. I just need support.

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KickAssMumma · 31/03/2023 06:51

Sorry for spelling and misused (autocorrect) words. Trying to get it all out. It doesn’t even sound bad reading it back I don’t think (but then my judgement on “bad times” is skewed thanks to so much trauma). So now I posted I feel like a drama queen. Which doesn’t help as that’s all my toxic (I’m now no contact) family ever called me. Forgive me for being traumatised by seeing my mum beat horrifically for years or passed out drunk as she couldn’t cope, til she killer herself when I was 13. If that makes me dramatic or a drama queen at some triggers then shoot me 🤷‍♀️

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whodafucisalice · 31/03/2023 07:01

Please discuss all this with your midwife and GP and see what help is available and hopefully you can make some plans and start to feel more positive. I wish you well.

CarlaTheGnome · 31/03/2023 07:08

My goodness. A first pregnancy is bloody hard enough anyway without everything else that you've got going on! You're doing incredibly and you've come so far - keep going. Your friend sounds wonderful, but your uncle and male neighbours are clearly total weirdos. Definitely keep confiding in your midwives - they need to know what you're dealing with so they can help. Both now and after the baby is here.

KickAssMumma · 31/03/2023 07:09

Thank you. I have been really open with my midwife (talked yesterday and she’s amazing she wasn’t even working which I didn’t know, otherwise I wouldn’t have contacted her) also the perinatal mental health team. I’m under the river team which is the mental health department of maternity where I am and I have such great support which does help, I just don’t know how to get the energy to sort the last bits out. And stop sleeping all the time. They’ve set up a plan so my perinatal lady is gonna come once a week beginning next week to help me either physically if it’s moving heavy stuff, or just natter while I Potter about doing things. They’re truly amazing. They even wrote my list of to do’s and told me even if I did one thing every second day, it would still be done in 3 weeks and I have minimum 6 left. I don’t know what I’m posting for really, I guess just some mum support, maybe things I didn’t think of, or natural energy boosting methods. Or just some hand holds even. I really appreciate all and any feedback. Thank you 😊

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KickAssMumma · 31/03/2023 07:19

CarlaTheGnome · 31/03/2023 07:08

My goodness. A first pregnancy is bloody hard enough anyway without everything else that you've got going on! You're doing incredibly and you've come so far - keep going. Your friend sounds wonderful, but your uncle and male neighbours are clearly total weirdos. Definitely keep confiding in your midwives - they need to know what you're dealing with so they can help. Both now and after the baby is here.

Thank you that’s so lovely to hear. I was actually just thinking that you know- that I have posted all of that and not once really factored in that I’m also making an actual first baby too which is so hard as well! Thank you for voicing that. It helps to have it reinforced as I tend to be too hard on myself and just think well crack on stop complaining. But it’s a lot a pregnancy. Then all the other crap too!

And definitely I’m keeping my team up to date. I have to, yesterday was so bad I called the crisis team he wanted to send an ambulance and I said no due to past events when I had a psychotic break and despite only threatening myself the police came and tasered me and 4 men jumped on me and that’s all I’m gonna say about that cos it got far worse and the triggers it caused! So when I said no ambulance the man on the crisis line said the police will kick the door through (helpful and safe to a pregnant lady not threatening to harm herself or anyone else 🙄) anyway. We settled for me contacting my midwife and perinatal team which I did (I wouldn’t normally but things are different I’m going to be a mum now) I then became so exhausted I couldn’t answer the phone so they arrived at my door and were really helpful and lovely. So more support there now which is great. They’re very good and I intend to keep working with them. I have today as well my first mums group thing with another part of the maternity team (it’s a volunteer group of experienced mums and women like me) Just tea biscuits and a chat and the lady is taking me there and dropping me off as it’s so far away so that’s amazing. I have great support from medical staff. Just struggling with no family support and my two friends have own lives. I wish I could afford someone to pay them to come each day to just sit while I Potter haha. I’m lucky really for all the support maternity give me. My midwife suggested a mum and baby unit when baby comes for that kick start of support which I am really considering too

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MaireadMcSweeney · 31/03/2023 07:27

You should be really proud of yourself. Were you referred to children's services for an assessment during pregnancy? It sounds like you could do with a referral to early help services? Don't be scared of children's services, they are there to support if you meet the threshold for involvement but from my experience you definitely meet the threshold for early help. Ask your midwife.

KickAssMumma · 31/03/2023 07:30

So I have noticed that having just downed about a litre and half of water (I’ll regret later peeing all day haha) that I have more energy. Not enough to get out of my lovely bath (one of my few real joys at the moment) but more clear headed type of energy. And wondering if anyone knows any other similar type of energy inducing things? I never took care of myself my whole life not properly (no idea how I’m still alive frankly!) and cos of my childhood wasn’t taught such things- so wondering if I might be missing something re natural energy boosters? I did get a cheap ish but well reviewed exercise bike after grandad died he unexpectedly left me a little money so I got that, I just need the energy to put it together. Lots of water and exercise? While watching tv so it’s not feeling such a chore? Are there any other natural energy boosting/ self care I’m missing? I think if exercise helps then I can do my best to get that bike set up today, and continue with the water, and any other idea you ladies may have, give it a few days to a week to work re energy kicking in and in the meantime be kind to myself, and perhaps once my body is better taken care of I might get natural energy then? Hope that made sense. Pregnancy brain haha.

*Water. Lots. Daily
*Continue my pregnacare vitamins
*Exercise (not over the top obviously)
*Are there more? For example certain foods? I eat fine considering but if there’s some super foods that might help energy. Or anything else at all!

Thank you all in advance and for the advice so far

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KickAssMumma · 31/03/2023 07:38

MaireadMcSweeney · 31/03/2023 07:27

You should be really proud of yourself. Were you referred to children's services for an assessment during pregnancy? It sounds like you could do with a referral to early help services? Don't be scared of children's services, they are there to support if you meet the threshold for involvement but from my experience you definitely meet the threshold for early help. Ask your midwife.

Oh yes- I spoke to my doctor who suggested this and I requested that she refer me so that I can be sure all is good and if not, things can be implemented. Took a few weeks of info gathering, the woman was AMAZING I miss her! And at the time my mental health wasn’t great but wasn’t as bad as it started to get yesterday ( tho today is better so perhaps just a terrible one off day yesterday) my house was new to me so it was noted that house wasn’t up to standard for new baby but also noted I had just moved in so of course no carpet or furniture yet (all that is now sorted and they knew it was just short term at the time) and I didn’t have all I needed for baby but that it was early and now I have all that. It was assessed by social services dept and no concerns or risk factors so was signed off. I’m very happy to work with them any time they or I should want or need- social services aren’t scary provided your priority is your baby and you work with them- both of which are true in my case. It might be worth contacting them again and see if there are other things to be checked out here before he arrives. I need my boy to have a good life - he will NOT know a childhood like I had. He won’t

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KickAssMumma · 31/03/2023 07:51

Oh just to add- what I have noticed lately since I did work on my mental health is that my mental health only tends to decline based on circumstantial situations. So for example, I can say hand on heart that if my home and things to do and my prep for baby arrival finished (almost not quite) and my home was decorated (it’s just the walls and gloss mostly). Then I would be totally fine, happy, content, and I wouldn’t feel so exhausted with the sheer anxiety of knowing all I still have to do. So basically my mental health tends to rear its head when something is going on to cause it to be no longer manageable. When things are under control I still struggle as it’s not something that disappears- but it’s more than manageable mostly. But when something happens to set it off, it goes bad again (tho not like before for example no longer self harming or psychosis etc). So it’s purely these circumstances stressing me and making it worse. Then I can’t sort them. Then it gets worse. Like a catch 22. If I could just sort it then I know I would be ok and can focus on this exciting new time. That’s what makes it so frustrating. If I could only just DO IT, like I would when I wasn’t pregnant I would cane it in two or three busy days, then I would be fine. But I can’t. I’m so tired. It’s so overwhelming. I have run myself into the ground as it is by doing too much and cracking on alone that there is nothing left energy wise

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KickAssMumma · 31/03/2023 08:20

This is getting like a journal now cos I’m posting so much haha but it’s helpful anyway just getting it out and into the ether so to speak.

So today I have that mums thing. I forget the name- mums for parents? Something like that it’s parents who volunteer alongside the maternity teams, for women like me and we go there and have tea and stuff and chat. This will be my first time.

The official maternity lady (forget her role I have so many teams haha I engage with all of them they’re all amazing and I couldn’t cope without them). She’s picking me up, taking me for the first time today, then bringing me home. She is really really nice and may well if I explain and ask her if she has time, nip past the pharmacy for me to get my needed epilepsy medication. If not I can sort it another time as it’s the previously mentioned centre that isn’t far usually, but is when waddling with sciatic pain and wipes me out for the day.

So I’m thinking this-

Make an effort today. I don’t wear much make up (some creams, my eyebrows and blush and a little lip gloss) some perfume. To feel nice. For a damn change cos I have really neglected myself lately. Do my nails (I only file and do clear polish but again haven’t bothered). Make an effort to feel “back to me”.

Go to this event and do my best re anxiety and opening up. Enjoy it. It’ll do me good - I need community and friendship.

Then come home and straight back out while I’m high off the happy social feelings. As I have options re other things that usually I would need the centre for. For example I need to send off my maternity grant form, and also write a letter to Dvla. Both need the post office. Luckily there is a McColl’s around the corner that has a mini post office. I can go there and that is two big worries off my list and get some shopping while I’m there (just some bits). Will be good for air and a little exercise but not anywhere near as far or difficult as the Center. And also it’s always lovely going there as I know the ladies who work there now so it’s lovely having that little social connection- chatting about due dates and their grandkids etc.

If the lady can help with the lift to the pharmacy on the way home, then that will be 3 things off a list and the 3 really anxiety inducing things (paperwork is so hard for me). Without me needing to half kill myself in pain and energy going to the centre. If the lady can’t take me on the way home (it really is on the way) then I can look into medication delivery instead and set that up today. And also call the benefits to explain that my ability to work form is being filled out for me by a support worker as I struggle hence it will be late possibly.

Then I can come home and maybe rest an hour. Or if I’m feeling energised still, get the exercise bike set up.

Thats 5 things off the list and a really productive day. As long as I can manage it and don’t push too hard. And it gives me wiggle room re the things I need to do and none of it is TOO overbearing/ too physical. Which means as the lady who helped me do the list in the first place said- I can leave days in between and it still get done in 3 weeks. She said if I do one thing every two days I would get it done in 3 weeks. If I wipe 5 things off, that gives me mental wriggle room to be far more kind to myself and be able to mentally relax somewhat. And I have a feeling that the second I can relax - I’ll suddenly have energy to do more.

So I think if I try for this plan today, and do my best, that’s a really good kick start out of this pit I have put myself into! And even if I do just one of those things. Well it’s one thing down and a social event for support done today which is fantastic progress for me.

I’m so pleased today has started off much better than yesterday. That could have spiralled terribly for weeks. Thank goodness with the support it hasn’t.

Please cross fingers and toes for me today! And if you can think of anything at all, especially re the natural energy thing, foods or whatnot, then I would massively appreciate it. Just knowing I can post and get my thoughts clear is so helpful right now. So thank you for reading. Thank you for posting. And I’ll keep updated too.

Now to get out this bath! I really don’t want to I love love love my baths so so much. I really do. I sit here for hours (really!) and when it gets cold I let some out and top up the heat. It’s not like I can drink a glass of wine or something is it 😂 not that I drink but still, you know!

Thank you ladies. Any input has and will mean more than you will ever know. ❤️

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