7.4 weeks no heartbeat

[Nataliej87]

I am 7.4 weeks and I had a pink hue that lasted 2 days with no pain at 5 weeks.
i was prescribed utrogesten 400mg daily from 5 weeks.
at 7.3 weeks I had some rust coloured discharge that lasted a day and this concerned me enough to call early pregnancy unit and they booked me in for a scan today.
i had the belly ultrasound and transvaginal scan and the nurse could not find the foetus heartbeat.
i am booked in for a second check tomorrow and if the same outcome I am booked in for a removal on 7.6 weeks.
my question is has anybody else had the same happen to go on to have a full successful pregnancy?
my instincts are strong and I feel like maybe it was too early to detect the heartbeat.
do I wait for another week or so to have another scan??

What does your midwife/healthcare practioner think?

There would be no harm in waiting a while longer if you wish, if it would put your mind at ease.

It is only in recent times that women have been able to know they are pregnant so early on, many would have lost their pregnancy and believed their period was late and would have gone on to have successful births.

A very early loss is your body doing as it should with a non viable pregnancy, in itself it's no reason to believe you can't carry a baby to term.

I do hope you are well and have a healthy baby.

Thank you doodlepug,
nurse found the baby straight away but struggled to find a heartbeat with the ultra sound,so we immediately did a transvaginal scan and still no heart beat.
i have read that it could be too early to detect it. I also have a tilted uterus so maybe that added to the difficulty???
i am going to have a second check tomorrow but I am frightened that if it is the case where it’s too early that the outcome will be the same.
should I wait a week or so instead??
i am willing to accept the outcome should that be the outcome again as heartbroken as I am.

I had a MMC, they wouldn't do anything without two scans a week apart so I'm surprised they're having you back tomorrow. If you feel there's still hope then wait before making a decision.

I'm surprised they have booked you in for a D&C the day after tomorrow. Are you UK based? I had a missed miscarriage around your time and I had to wait a week between scans to absolutely make sure there was no development. If your instincts are aging it may not be a loss I would advise you go with that and ask for a further scan in a week before you make any decisions. I'm keeping everything crossed for you x

I think I agree. My instincts are strong about this. I had a loss at 14 plus weeks 10 years ago and it was obvious that was happening.this time I feel differently.
i am also 41 so I have been told to expect to be a high risk pregnancy.

Thank you redbigbananafeet, yes uk based.
my instincts are screaming at me. Usually I would have accepted this…but it dosent feel right to this time.
maybe I’m wrong too but I always end up kicking myself when I don’t listen to my instincts.
i trust my loacal pregnancy unit and fully appreciate that they know what they are doing but I can’t help think maybe they couldn’t find the heartbeat because it was possibly too early or perhaps Dates are slightly off.

I'm stunned that they suggested a next day D&C to be honest. To the extent I think you might have misheard/misunderstood. Even after I had. Information of miscarriage at second scan it was a weeks wait to get a D&C appointment.

@Nataliej87 I think if you are 7+4 and they can easily see the baby but there is no heartbeat it isn’t a good sign, I’m so sorry. Could your dates be wrong? In any event I would also expect the EPU to offer a scan at least a week apart to ensure no growth rather than just 24 hrs. As long as the baby is in your uterus there shouldn’t be any rush to book you in for a removal, I would wait and see particularly if your instincts are telling you otherwise as you don’t ever want to look back and wonder.

I’m so sorry you’re going through this and I really hope it is good news tomorrow.

Thank you HRF
I will discuss this again with epu and ask for another check a week apart instead of tmr.
your right I don’t want to wander and traumatise myself later down the line. I will be back with an update tmr. X

Hi redbig
yes I agree it’s just too soon for that I am going to ask for a second opinion in a week and not be rushed into a big decision that they have already booked me in for 😢💔

This has happened to me twice. First time the EPU were able to tell with one scan that it was not a viable pregnancy. The second time I was asked to go back 2 weeks later. But both times they gave me the option to go home and think about whether I wanted to wait and let it pass naturally or opt for medical or surgical management. So even if you do go to the scan tomorrow, you don’t need to make a decision straight away about what you want to do.

Hi dal8257
i have to ask did they find the heartbeat on the second time??
sorry if I have read your reply wrong, at this point my head is all over the place and the anxiety is more than overbearing this evening.
im sorry to hear you also went through tough times. X

I actually mc at home before the 2nd scan. I was certain of my dates anyway so I was expecting it to happen. In my experience the epu will only say it’s not a viable pregnancy when they are 100% certain but it’s important that you also need to feel comfortable with their explanation.
Just to add that I know you are have a really tough time at the moment but don’t lose hope. Whatever happens with this pregnancy, it’s unlikely it will happen again and most people go on to have a normal pregnancy (I’ve had two).
Fingers crossed for you!

Did they say how big the foetus was measuring on the scan? I thought I was 6 weeks, measured 5+1 weeks, no Heartbeat so was left a week then as that's not unusual for such a young foetus, and by 6+1 I had a heartbeat. Other times I've been measuring over 8weeks (approx) and no heartbeat so the consultant said that it had stopped growing, then had a miscarriage.
I ask because with my second baby (as mentioned above) I was a 6 days behind where I thought I should be, and must have ovulated later - he was born on time (albeit c/s) hence the heart hadn't started yet so it you're say a week plus behind where you think you are it may just be a bit soon, so I'd wait.
Good luck

Hi everyone.
it was bad news again and they also did the colour Doppler to show me there was zero blood flow. 💔 this time I chose to look at the scan and I saw the bad news for myself.
I am booked in tmr for a removal. Very sad news Indeed for our family.
i would like to thank you all for you lovely reply’s and kind support.
Wishing you all the very best
hopefully we get our rainbow baby one day 🌈

many many thanks again
Natalie. x

Hi @Nataliej87 i didn’t reply to your original post but just saw your update. I’m so so sorry. I’ve been through this and the rollercoaster of emotions is exhausting. Are you having general anaesthetic tomorrow? They really try to make it as smooth as possible for you. Wishing you a speedy recovery xxxx

@Nataliej87 you'll get your baby, don't you worry. For now this wasn't to be, but your times will definitely come. For now, enjoy all those naughty things you can't eat in a few short months time and get loads of 'me / DH ' time and enjoy your life before it all changes.
Be assured, it will happen. And tomorrow be strong, cry, and just remember there will be a time, a short time to wait for your baby, they will arrive soon.

@Nataliej87 I’m so sorry for your loss, it’s absolutely devastating. Take all the time you need to grieve, here are some support resources that helped me. I found a podcast called The Worst Girl Gang Ever really helped me not to feel so alone and they have a Facebook community as well. If you need any medical support Tommy’s helpline is run by midwives and also Miscarriage Association has a helpline run by volunteers if you need emotional support. Take care of yourself, I’m so sorry again x

Hi ladies.
just tested as advised too and it’s still positive 🤷🏼‍♀️ it’s faint but darker than my very first test when I found out I was pregnant before the loss.
i am emotionally confused and a little scared.
is this hormones still dropping off or am I pregnant again.??
Did my research but conflicting info everywhere I look.
any advise gratefully received.tia.x

@Nataliej87 sorry for your loss ❤️ it is most likely hcg taking a while to drop it took me 6 weeks to test negative after my first MC and I'm 5 weeks since my second and my tests are stil very faint but positive all the same. Everyone is different some people get a negative fairly quick whilst others take a while. Your EPU should have said to call if positive after 3 weeks and they will advise you on what steps they want to take. But it's very normal for it to take up to 6 weeks to drop to 0 x

Thank you mummatara 💖
my frickin body is being so cruel to me.😢
I wish so bad it’s a bfp but I know in my heart of hearts it’s not.
going to call EPU on Friday if it’s still positive.
all the best for you - wishing you a happy and healthy pregnancy 💖 x

hey ladies I’m going to keep going with my thread and share my journey.
fingers crossed for a healthy pregnancy when/IF it happens.
im 42 in a few weeks so I’m feeling a little down that my days of fertility my not be on my side anymore.
i struggled to get my little boy (now 11)
I was 31 when I had him it was a fantastic pregnancy.
when he was one I fell pregnant again with my little Gracie but at 16 weeks I lost her and had to do it all at home. Was the most awful experience I had.still hurts my heart today and I miss what could have been.
ten years later and I’m still struggling to get and stay pregnant.
I used to track on fertility app but I got obsessed…so now it’s what ever happens happens 🤷🏼‍♀️
so please wish me luck ladies I need it 🌈
love and all the best to you all X

Feeling meh 🫤
this mornings test was darker. Although Iv read through tonnes of info saying it can take 4-6 weeks to drop off. 😧 my last miscarriage (Gracie 16 weeks) my levels went back to normal after 2 weeks.
im 3 weeks past surgical intervention and I was expecting the tests to be negative.
I was advised to test 3 weeks after to be sure hcg had gone but it’s still VERY much positive.
so after trawling through copious amounts of the glorious internet advice Iv decided to keep testing to see if I can spot the changes.
and in addition if im still testing positive by Monday I’m going to call EPAc and see what they say.
what a rollercoaster!! i just want to know.
we can send a rocket to the moon but we can’t make tests that can give us these answers at home.
sounds dumb I know….but I can’t help feel impatient.
well let’s see what tomorrow brings. 🤷🏼‍♀️
if tomorrows test is darker again I will post pics and you lovely’s can ponder over the wonders of our beautiful technology that is.
🌈

Hi mummatara I’m so sorry I just realised I read your reply wrong. I’m so sorry for your loss. I hope the very best for you and you get your rainbow baby.🌈💖 x

Hi @Nataliej87 - I’m so sorry you’re going through this. I know it can be absolute torture hoping for a negative test when you really want positive. Definitely call your EPU if you’re still testing positive / the tests are getting stronger because it could be that you’ve retained some tissue and your body is still producing hcg. Hoping you test negative soon so you don’t feel like you’re in this odd limbo for much longer ❤️