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Am i wrong if i don’t let my son see his dad?

23 replies

43zigzag · 01/11/2022 07:20

hello, i am a first time user so bare with me! i will go through the whole pregnancy just so everyone has lots of context.

i am 19 and currently pregnant (💙)
in my third trimester. (33/40) i was never with the father (21) and this was a spontaneous pregnancy.
at first, the father was happy about the news. although we weren’t together we agreed on coparenting and communicating regularly with updates etc. because we wasn’t in a serious relationship, none of us had met each other’s family either so we were trying to get that all arranged. he had just also come out of prison when we conceived our baby.

one day i try to call his number, and got told by his brother to stop calling him. i didn’t hear from him for at least over a month.

after finally gaining contact after weeks of trying - he then goes on to say he wants me to get an abortion- which obviously i said no to.
at this point, i’m gathering all the items i will need for my baby on my own. i have gone to every single appointment alone, and i have moved into another flat alone.

after not speaking to him for some time, he apologises and we start afresh. however, recently he has been quite verbally abusive towards me. he doesn’t let me speak, he tells me he never wanted to get “someone like me” pregnant, says he doesn’t have a child (or at least one on the way) has denied his son several times, tells me it’s my fault he’s this way because “i am scaring him away”, and uses my physically appearance to offend me. i have put an example down below. i have more of course but i think one is enough
he also tells me i won’t be able to provide the best for my son by myself, and he has “more money than me and my mum put together”
i also want to add that this man doesn’t have an actual job, and we can just label him as a “criminal” in this case.
the father hasn’t contributed ANYTHING the whole of my pregnancy. he hasn’t come to any appointments, hasn’t sent me money to help with buying any of the baby’s things. i haven’t seen him since THE CONCEPTION DATE.

i wanted to give him as many chances as possible. i thought maybe it will take him more time for him to understand just because he was a man. at my 20 week scan, he left me waiting for over 30 minutes with the sonographer just to tell me he couldn’t make it.

i guess my question is will i be a bad mum if i don’t let him see my son now? he is very inconsistent and i don’t need that to be a problem when my son is here. he has denied him on various occasions to feel better about the fact he hasn’t actually been there. i don’t want to be blinded by what he has said to me and make a bias decision based on how he treated me through my pregnancy,because he isn’t my dad ,
but he has said quite a lot of upsetting things about me and my son which has actually brought me to tears. i am so confused on what to do- i am already in a “teen” pregnancy and the fact i have had to struggle alone without his dad has been challenging. i have already decided he will not be getting put on the birth certificate and the baby will be taking my name (DEFINITELY)
i also have had lots of support from my own family and friends already have all of my baby list bought and ready for him for when he comes :)
please any advice will be useful!!!

thanks guys :)

Am i wrong if i don’t let my son see his dad?
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BackOnTheBandWagon · 01/11/2022 07:25

It sounds like this man will cause more harm than good in your son's life. I think you're much better off keeping him out of it. Sounds like you're going to be a great mum, and have the support of your family too. Just focus on you and your baby now.

OddshoesOddsocks · 01/11/2022 07:27

OP I’ve been in a similar position and I can honestly say the biggest regret of my life was putting ex on dd’s birth certificate so I 100% back you on that one.

I would change my number and give him an email address saying ‘contact me here if it’s about baby, otherwise I don’t want to know’

He has no right to be cruel to you so don’t let him. Be strong and protect yourself and your baby from him. He’s shown you his true colours, he doesn’t need any more chances now.

Good luck 💐

SmartCar · 01/11/2022 07:29

Yep don't put him on the birth certificate and loose his number. If he wants access he can take you to court. I bet he won't bother.
Sorry he such an arse.
You sound lovely.

DesMoulinsRouge · 01/11/2022 07:37

He's an immature idiot. Ignore.

alwaysmovingforwards · 01/11/2022 07:39

He sounds like a complete waste of space.

sorrynotathome · 01/11/2022 07:40

This man will bring your child nothing but heartache. Delete him from your lives.

43zigzag · 01/11/2022 07:43

thanks all for the advice and kindness! i honestly thought i was losing my mind about all of this and have literally been gaslighted into believing im the issue in this situation. it is nice for people to understand where i’m coming from with this ❤

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Mindymomo · 01/11/2022 07:48

Don’t waste a second on him, there’s no way on earth I would want contact with anyone like that. Keep all texts in case you need these in the future as he may feel different after baby is born. He’s let you down by not turning up, don’t even bother telling him about the birth. Good to know you aren’t putting his name on birth certificate.

IWillBeWaxingAnOwl · 01/11/2022 07:49

I would agree with creating an email address just for him to use if he wants to contact about baby and changing your number, blocking his number BUT don't delete all his phone messages - save them somewhere as they'd be good proof that 1) you gave him a way to contact you about the child and 2) he was verbally and emotionally abusive.

Agree with just you on birth certificate.

Will you need to claim maintenance financially?

43zigzag · 01/11/2022 08:17

the short answer is no. during arguments with him i have already stated i am willing and very much capable of doing this alone if he wants to back out from the day i told him i was pregnant, as i didn’t want the stress of what seems to be happening now. of course i am aware this isn’t going to be easy for me, but i am willing to do whatever it’s going to take if he doesn’t want to step up for his son. i am also confident in my support network. although financial help would obviously benefit him it’s not a necessity.
i have created a file on my phone of the screenshots of our conversations and have recordings of certain phone calls for proof just in case he does try to change his mind in the future.

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bumpytrumpy · 01/11/2022 08:19

The chances of you getting maintenance out of this loser is practically zero so I would just cut your losses and cut him off.

However you MUST for the sake of your child do some work on your own mental health and choices. Sleeping with someone you don't know who is just out of prison is a bad choice. It's done now, but next time those choices will affect your son. Don't subject him to a series of poor mums boyfriend figures. You can do better for yourself and him - be single, focus on yourself, your son and building a secure income.

Listen to the Boy in the woods podcast also.

TeaAndJaffacakes · 01/11/2022 08:24

If he’s got lots of money but it’s not earned through a legal job (or laundered through a legal job) then going to CMS for maintenance is pointless. Funnily enough they don’t have data on drug dealers annual incomes.
I wouldn’t count on any financial support.
The special email address then change of phone number idea is good.

PeekAtYou · 01/11/2022 08:25

I would block him, text him after the baby is born ("Baby born Wednesday 8th weighing 7lbs 3oz and is healthy") then block him again.
If he wants to see the baby then he can go the legal route but I hope that he leaves you alone - especially as you're not going after him financially.

43zigzag · 01/11/2022 08:46

sorry- i should have clarified before this.
ive known his dad since i’ve been about 13/14. this wasn’t our first time sleeping together. this was just the first time sleeping together after he came out of prison.
we were also communicating whilst he was in prison (about a year). he told me he wanted to be with me, move in together etc and i thought once he came out, we will give a relationship a go.
i have a benign tumour in my brain which affects a bunch of my hormones, which should have affected my fertility. i was told i wouldn’t be able to conceive nor be able to carry a pregnancy. So we didn’t use protection as did we think it would result to pregnancy. he was also the only person i was sleeping with (and to my knowledge vice versa)
of course i am aware he hasn’t done right in the eyes of the law- however i was really under the impression he loved me and we were getting closer to an actual relationship.
sorry for the confusion

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43zigzag · 01/11/2022 08:47

bumpytrumpy · 01/11/2022 08:19

The chances of you getting maintenance out of this loser is practically zero so I would just cut your losses and cut him off.

However you MUST for the sake of your child do some work on your own mental health and choices. Sleeping with someone you don't know who is just out of prison is a bad choice. It's done now, but next time those choices will affect your son. Don't subject him to a series of poor mums boyfriend figures. You can do better for yourself and him - be single, focus on yourself, your son and building a secure income.

Listen to the Boy in the woods podcast also.

sorry- i should have clarified before this.

ive known his dad since i’ve been about 13/14. this wasn’t our first time sleeping together. this was just the first time sleeping together after he came out of prison.

we were also communicating whilst he was in prison (about a year). he told me he wanted to be with me, move in together etc and i thought once he came out, we will give a relationship a go.
i have a benign tumour in my brain which affects a bunch of my hormones, which should have affected my fertility. i was told i wouldn’t be able to conceive nor be able to carry a pregnancy. So we didn’t use protection as did we think it would result to pregnancy. he was also the only person i was sleeping with (and to my knowledge vice versa)
of course i am aware he hasn’t done right in the eyes of the law- however i was really under the impression he loved me and we were getting closer to an actual relationship.

sorry for the confusion

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creideamhdóchasgrá · 01/11/2022 08:51

This man is personally connected to you and what you have described fits the definition of domestic abuse. As you are pregnant you are especially vulnerable.

You can get help here
www.nhs.uk/pregnancy/support/domestic-abuse-in-pregnancy/
and here
www.gov.uk/guidance/domestic-abuse-how-to-get-help

Also
See the definition of personally connected here (Domestic Abuse Act) www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2021/17/section/2/enacted
See signs of domestic Abuse here
www.nhs.uk/live-well/getting-help-for-domestic-violence/

IWillBeWaxingAnOwl · 01/11/2022 08:52

For your future OP - a prolactinoma tumour causes sub fertility but unless you have no uterus or no ovaries you are not completely infertile. You should always use protection in future due to this. That was unclear advice from medics!

Best of luck for your birth and wee boy x

43zigzag · 01/11/2022 09:05

yes- definitely some miscommunication from my doctors about the whole fertility thing.
my tumour is actually bleeding into itself and has been since before i was pregnant, and my prolactin (i’m not sure the names of what other hormones but there’s definitely more) was too high to actually get pregnant, it wasn’t impossible- but i definitely “wouldn’t be able to carry a pregnancy to full term” (apparently)
my doctors have in endocrine we’re quite shocked with the news i was pregnant - to the point it’s in my maternity care notes!! he’s due on christmas day and my midwife calls him the christmas blessing😂❤️ either way i don’t regret my son the slightest and can’t wait for him to be here🥰

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TerfranosaurusVagina · 01/11/2022 09:11

I'd block him right now. Don't even let him know the baby is born. He sounds horrible and will only cause you heartache.

Littlebluedinosaur · 01/11/2022 09:15

Do not put this man on the birth certificate.

Littlebluedinosaur · 01/11/2022 09:15

Do not give the baby his surname!

Tiani4 · 01/11/2022 09:39

Do not put him on birth certificate (go register birth on your own and as you aren't married you can't put him in anyway) so he has no PR

Chase him for CMS

Stop communications. If he continues to send nasty texts report him to police for malicious communications so you can get non mol order against him
Speak to NDAH

www.nationaldahelpline.org.uk/

They will give you plenty of advice to help decide if this is DA

Tiani4 · 01/11/2022 09:42

Yanbu to not arrange an informal contact between your baby son and this uncaring verbally abusive father, once he's born

If he was or is bothered, he would take it to court to seek PR and childcare access and his offending history will be relevant to the latter (we don't know what that is, but if drug related he's going to have difficulties) .

Make sure you give baby your last name. Don't let him come to hospital nor involve him any way, he sounds an unsavoury person to have in your child's life - you'll have 40+ years to regret it if you do.

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