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Please comfort me, the stress feels overwhelming

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GirlMama21 · 04/08/2022 09:45

Back in February this year I had probably one of the worst timed MVAs, on Valentines Day, alone in hospital. The loss of that twin pregnancy was our second, after I had my first MVA in May 2021 when we experienced our first mmc.

Despite desperately wanting our rainbow baby, we gave up ttc after the MVA in February- the thought of experiencing another loss was too traumatic. Since then until now I have been very slowly and painfully recovering from my grief. You never forget what you've lost, but time is kinder to you as it passes....

On 20th July we were shocked to discover we were expecting again, completely unplanned and I only tested because I was feeling rotten- though I originally put feeling not quite right down to that heatwave. DH and I were shocked, but overjoyed and every day since then has been absolutely terrifying.

What gave us a shred of hope these last 3 weeks is that despite it being very early days, I have had quite strong symptoms- very sore/sensitive boobs, utter exhaustion, queasiness, metallic taste, killer reflux. We were barely allowing ourselves to believe that this was a good sign and maybe just maybe we might end up with a baby in our arms this time, when my symptoms have suddenly disappeared. It's been the case for 2 days now- all of them, gone, just like that 💔. This is exactly how my other two mmcs started off and I was ignored by medical professionals and told I wasn't miscarrying because I was not bleeding.

The thought of a 3rd mc in a row is sickening, would put me in that 1% of women who have experienced 3 or more in a row. I just feel sooo mentally overwhelmed and down, can someone please just share some kind words. Those of you who have experienced multiple losses in a row, how did you cope and carry on? I know it's not been confirmed I am miscarrying, but it is too early for a scan to confirm anything right now- 5+2 today- and in my heart I tremble because my body has been through this twice before...

Am I setting myself up for a bigger fall if I dare to hope things could still be ok despite the above and my history, or is it better for my MH if I accept it's probably game over again? I have booked a scan for the 14th Aug when I would be 2 days shy of 7 weeks, assuming that will be better timing to give a yes/no one way or another. How do I survive the next 10 ten days until then? Doubt I'll start bleeding before then even if I am miscarrying- I had to have MVAs with my other two because my body simply refused to start the process of removing the pregnancies 💔.

The support I got on here when I posted about the twin pregnancy touched my heart and I was so grateful ❤️. Please now help me get through this you kind souls out there, I feel I'm breaking 😪.

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GirlMama21 · 14/08/2022 00:05

Thank you @YouPutTheScrewInTheTuna Flowers.

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Chasingclouds100 · 14/08/2022 11:08

Hey, I have no advice or knowledge but just to say we are still here if you need to talk. I hope Monday goes ok xx

GirlMama21 · 14/08/2022 14:51

Thank you @Chasingclouds100 for checking in with my updates, your kind words mean a lot to me while I struggle with all this❤.

So even though I know I shouldn't, I spent ages last night googling and reading and the information out there seems to suggest things are not so black and white! Attaching a screenshot of a website, Baby Med, which says the doubling in 48 hours is when you're starting with hcg values below 1,200 miu. It says with values above 6,000 miu- my exact initial value was 9, 524- then often it takes about 4 days to double rather than the standard 48 hours. By that logic mine starting at 9, 524 would have expected to at least double by Monday not Saturday (48 hours later) when I had my follow up bloods coming back at 10, 601. So I guess if they're not in the 20/21,000 miu region by Monday it's pretty bleak.

Same site- info included in the screenshot attached- it says you'd expect to see an embryo and HB once hcg levels have exceeded 10, 800. So on Thursday when I didn't see either of those my hcg was below that threshold. Doesn't explain why a yolk sac wasn't seen at least, and obviously some women see embryo and HB before having such high hcg levels, but at least reassuring that not everybody follows the same road.

I know it's looking bleak, but at the same time my chest is hurting again and boobs are so swollen, I just can't bear to give up hope until there is literally nothing left for me to clutch at. Maybe I don't remember properly, but with previous two mcc I don't think the chest pain came back once it went AWOL. Other symptoms still AWOL including tiredness and nausea, but in my heart it feels different now this time...

Next step, bloods tomorrow!

Please comfort me, the stress feels overwhelming
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GirlMama21 · 14/08/2022 14:54

Also, no idea if being ill has any impact on pregnancy and symptoms or hcg rise, but I've been building up to being really unwell the last week or so. Now it's full blown viral sore throat and swollen tonsils, wondering whether that could also be impacting things....

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Chasingclouds100 · 14/08/2022 15:07

Ah no problem, it’s just nice to know you are not alone during such a worrying time. I’m racking my brain to try and remember details from my early pregnancies but I can’t remember. I’m currently ttc but no luck in 14 months

GirlMama21 · 15/08/2022 09:42

@Chasingclouds100 I'm not really talking to anyone about this pregnancy IRL following the experience of our other two mcs so the support on this thread means a lot to me ❤. 14 months of trying sounds really tough Flowers, have you asked to be referred for investigations as I think they will look into things if you haven't conceived after ttc for 12 months? I'm unsure about what to do if I have actually mc current pregnancy because we will qualify for recurrent mc referral having had 3 in a row, but I don't think we will be ttc again 😔so is there any point...having said that, regardless, I will probably want to know if something is wrong so....

Feel sick with anxiety this morning, blood test in a few hours and then I can ring up a few hours after for the result. After desperately googling and reading things over the weekend to try to stay positive, am feeling very negative this morning and quite sure it's all over. Most of my main symptoms have been gone for about 2 weeks now so not just a few days of light relief and then they're back. Especially disconcerting to go from feeling exhausted to feeling utterly normal 😥.I've read so many old mumsnet threads in the last few days where ladies in a similar situation have gone on to have a good outcome, but you just don't expect it to happen to you 😔. My mind's already wandering ahead to whether I can handle a third MVA without getting PTSD (had my second one in Feb this year so not that long ago) or whether I should risk medical management despite having a bleeding disorder.

Wondering whether they'll cancel my rescan on Friday if today's blood result is a car crash. If it's the same rate of increase as the first 48 hours then it'll be just under 12,000 miu whereas it needs to be over 20,000 miu. Think I'll push to still have the scan regardless as I don't miscarry naturally- the removal of the pregnancy has to be forced on given my last 2 experiences and the fact I have no bleeding or pain again this third time...before accepting "options" I need to know 100% that it's a non-viable pregnancy and not just a slow burning pregnancy, however rare the latter might be.

Feeling really down in the dumps, can't believe I'm on the brink of this for a third time 💔, how do we put ourselves through this 😪.

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GirlMama21 · 15/08/2022 09:49

I'll know it's bad if they ring me 😔. For the first result I had to ring them to ask what it was. After second bloods were taken again they asked me to ring after a few hours, but they ended up ringing me first when they got the results because it wasn't good news...so will be dreading phone ringing 😕. Just want it all over already...

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Skylark1990 · 15/08/2022 13:37

Really sorry you are going through this op. Sending good luck as I hope the call has good news, but also snding love and strength. Know that you will get through this and there are lots of things that can help and support you can access if it doesnt work out this time. if you speak to a Tommy's midwife they are really helpful x

Chasingclouds100 · 15/08/2022 15:36

Heya, sorry for delayed response - hope you are ok and bloods went well today - have you heard anything yet? You must be so worried and fed up. Yeah after 14 months of ttc I’m thoroughly fed up but I’m aged 44 now so not really expecting anything to happen, we may look into medical help but I’m kinda scared of what they will say and if they will just say oh you are too old! I totally get the not talking to anyone IRL but honestly if you want to rant, moan or cry please message me don’t keep it to yourself, I had 2 MC’s a long time ago now but went on to have 2 healthy DC’s - those two dates are etched on my mind and heart forever xx

GirlMama21 · 15/08/2022 19:27

Thank you @Skylark1990 and hope you continue to have a safe pregnancy Flowers . Have been dipping in and out of the "due April 23 thread", but haven't dared to join yet 😔. My DD for this pregnancy is 4/4/23.

Yes, I got the results back @Chasingclouds100 . The hcg didn't double, but it increased further and the actual percentage rise doubled this time. So in the first 48 hours it rose by just over 11% and in the second 48 hours it rose by just over 22%.

The nurse on the phone told me the Dr who reviewed my results is confused because the results are not correlating with a typical mc, but obviously also not reflecting a typical pregnancy so they haven't called it either way yet. Dr has cancelled my scan on Friday and asked me to come in on Wednesday instead- will be 48 hours after today's bloods- so they can see what's happening there. I think if they don't see an embryo on Wednesday they'll probably call it by then as the hcg levels will just be too high to not see one on ultrasound. ..the wait continues...

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GirlMama21 · 15/08/2022 19:38

I wouldn't be scared of seeking medical advice @Chasingclouds100 , perhaps they might discover something straightforward which they could resolve? 44 is def not too old! ❤

I'm the opposite- had my two beautiful girls in my early and mid thirties and then we've experienced these mcs in my later 30s....the first one came as such a shock after 2 uncomplicated pregnancies, the second was heartbreaking and now this limbo for a 3rd time in a row is unbearable. We wonder whether we'll ever have that final little one to complete our family...

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Chasingclouds100 · 16/08/2022 09:10

Morning, oh no still waiting for answers then - stay positive though as it’s not a definitive no. I’m really pleased your scan has been moved to Wednesday though - that is just 24 little hours away and at least you will know then (and hopefully all will be ok) Try not to worry meanwhile - I know easier said than done!
Ah thank you, it’s hard not to feel deflated isn’t it, I conceived literally straight away with my DC and hoped it would happen straight away this time.
keep us posted, I really hope all works out for you

GirlMama21 · 16/08/2022 23:25

Thank you for your kindness @Chasingclouds100 ❤, the nerves are starting to kick in, but I'm just going to try to go to sleep and get some rest because I know I'll be a mess in the morning...

We were the same, conceived easily with the girls and now all this 😔.

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Chasingclouds100 · 17/08/2022 15:43

Hope your scan has gone well today xx

Maxime34 · 17/08/2022 20:59

Really hope everything goes well for you OP x

GirlMama21 · 17/08/2022 23:08

Thanks for asking @Chasingclouds100 and @Maxime34 ❤.

Praise the Lord I can't quite believe I'm saying this and it's not the update I thought I would be posting at all, but the sonographer found a tiny fetal pole today...with a heartbeat!! I couldn't help myself, full on sobbed and just couldn't believe what I was hearing. I had to keep asking her if she was sure, if it was really a heartbeat.

I was meant to be 7+1 by LMP today, but the fetal pole was measuring less than 6 weeks which is nerve wracking. However, they said my hcg levels from the bloods correlate well with what they saw so they told me it looks encouraging moving forward at this point. They were very worried about the hcg not doubling so it was the best possible outcome to hope for ❤.

The weeks ahead will be nervous and I know there is no guarantee of anything, but seeing a heartbeat despite the fetal pole being so tiny gives me hope as the rate of mc does drop once that is seen. Determined to be positive and hope for the best.

Thank you to everyone who has supported me on this thread at such a difficult time and especially you @Chasingclouds100 Flowers; your care and kindness in regularly replying and checking in on me has helped me get through this rollercoaster ❤.

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NeuroticFox1 · 17/08/2022 23:16

❤️❤️❤️

Pinktruffle · 17/08/2022 23:36

@GirlMama21 all the best going forward, I'll keep everything crossed for you. Please do update us as things progress, if you can x

Chasingclouds100 · 18/08/2022 12:17

GirlMama21 · 17/08/2022 23:08

Thanks for asking @Chasingclouds100 and @Maxime34 ❤.

Praise the Lord I can't quite believe I'm saying this and it's not the update I thought I would be posting at all, but the sonographer found a tiny fetal pole today...with a heartbeat!! I couldn't help myself, full on sobbed and just couldn't believe what I was hearing. I had to keep asking her if she was sure, if it was really a heartbeat.

I was meant to be 7+1 by LMP today, but the fetal pole was measuring less than 6 weeks which is nerve wracking. However, they said my hcg levels from the bloods correlate well with what they saw so they told me it looks encouraging moving forward at this point. They were very worried about the hcg not doubling so it was the best possible outcome to hope for ❤.

The weeks ahead will be nervous and I know there is no guarantee of anything, but seeing a heartbeat despite the fetal pole being so tiny gives me hope as the rate of mc does drop once that is seen. Determined to be positive and hope for the best.

Thank you to everyone who has supported me on this thread at such a difficult time and especially you @Chasingclouds100 Flowers; your care and kindness in regularly replying and checking in on me has helped me get through this rollercoaster ❤.

Brilliant news!!!!!! Your post brought tears to my eyes! I am so pleased for you and I really hope everything goes smoothly for you. Ah no thanks needed honestly - I’m just glad you and little one are ok. You take care sweetie xxxx

GirlMama21 · 19/08/2022 09:37

Thank you @NeuroticFox1 ❤️.

@Pinktruffle , I will update after out next scan. Have decided to just not stress now- whether symptoms are absent or not etc- and just focus on being positive. We pushed back the original private scan I booked when I started this thread, after I was referred to EPU by my GP. We're due to have it on the 28th Aug so hoping it confirms the good news and shows progress.

Thank you, I'm really touched by that response @Chasingclouds100 ❤❤❤. Here's hoping we hear good news from you soon too. Have you decided whether to seek medical advice?

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Chasingclouds100 · 19/08/2022 18:42

Thank you! X Yes, I think so just got to pluck up the courage first! x

GirlMama21 · 28/08/2022 17:33

Well, finally had the private scan today, 11 days after the euphoric EPU scan where saw little one with a HB.

The sonographer wasn't the best...she simply said it was a missed miscarriage, apparently she couldn't see anything in the sac which she dated as being only 6 weeks 4 days. She said baby would have died between the scans 💔💔💔. So I'm there afterall after daring to hope otherwise- the hated Club 1%, 3 mcs in a row, my heart feels like it's shattered into a million pieces 💔.

Rang EPU afterwards as it's my third "missed" mc- no bleeding, pain etc so I'll need it to be brought on to remove the pregnancy. They're going to scan me on Wed morning in the EPU to confirm the outcome before giving me the options to get it started. Don't know what else to say, am numb and in shock, just can't believe it...3 mc in a row, after seeing little one's heartbeat beating only 11 days ago, my poor baby 😭.

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georgarina · 28/08/2022 17:42

Ohh I'm so sorry @GirlMama21 what awful news Flowers
TTC can be so cruel, it's not fair
My mum had multiple mc's between my younger siblings and I still remember how it felt.
Sending you a hug and really hope you have lots of love around you xxx

Nursemumma92 · 28/08/2022 18:33

So sorry to hear this @GirlMama21, sending hugs, strength and support ❤️❤️

Chasingclouds100 · 28/08/2022 18:41

@GirlMama21 I am so sorry to hear your sad news, I was really hoping it would work out differently for you. Please be kind to yourself. Here if you want to chat