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People refusing induction against medical advice

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bollocksthemess · 07/01/2022 09:47

I’m pregnant and I’ve been in hospital quite a bit lately, I’m in hospital now with a bit of high blood pressure, been here overnight but should be let out today.

I can’t believe the number of women I’ve overheard who don’t want to follow medical advice about having their baby.
There’s been over the last couple of hospital visits:

The lady who was 42+2 and was refusing induction, and walked out of her appointment without being scanned when the consultant said there was no benefit to her baby staying in longer.

The lady who came in at 38w with reduced foetal movement, was scanned and induction recommended, and was refusing induction even when the consultant explained that she was at term and the recommendation for reduced foetal movement at term is to get the baby out.

Today’s lady was in last night with pre-eclampsia at 37+5. Induction recommended. She wants to labour in the pool but obviously you can’t if you’re induced. She wants to go home and see what happens.

I just don’t understand it at all. I’ve had quite a bit of anxiety around this pregnancy and not being able to tell what’s going on with the twins, and while I’m trying to keep them in as long as possible there comes a point when they’re safer out than in.
I’ve seen more medical people in the last few weeks than in my whole life, I’m the sort to never even go to the GP and I’m usually of the wait and see mindset.
But Jesus, when someone who does this for a living tells you your baby needs evicting surely you’re just grateful that we have such good monitoring and get your baby out where it’s safest?
I know nobody wants to be induced, but I just want my babies to be safe, however they come out.

OP posts:
mobear · 08/01/2022 01:18

I was induced as DS refused to make an appearance himself. I was afraid of giving birth and I put it off almost as long as possible, so I wouldn’t pass judgement on others.

Notwithittoday · 08/01/2022 07:34

@PissedOffNeighbour22 that’s awful. Have you gone somewhere else?

grey12 · 08/01/2022 08:45

[quote Notwithittoday]@PissedOffNeighbour22 that’s awful. Have you gone somewhere else?[/quote]
@PissedOffNeighbour22
has a good advice! Sometimes people don't think about the possibility of going to a different hospital.

I have said earlier I was assaulted by my doctor (even though it took me a few years to really realise it), but it never crossed my mind that I could change hospital if I wasn't happy with the place! 🤷🏻‍♀️

grey12 · 08/01/2022 08:46

😂 I meant @Notwithittoday. 3 kids climbing on top of me atm

PissedOffNeighbour22 · 08/01/2022 09:30

@Notwithittoday unfortunately there's nowhere else nearby to go. All maternity units have been closed and everyone referred to one hospital which is why it's so overloaded with patients and there's no maternity beds.

I was at a different hospital for my first birth and although they almost killed us both due to incompetence, the service was better than I'm receiving now, which is VERY worrying. I only have a few weeks left before the birth but am considering trying to transfer back despite us moving away from the area.

HobgoblinGold · 08/01/2022 11:25

Naughty naughty women not listening to the doctors. Everyone has the right to choose what they want to do with there body and baby.

PiesNotGuys · 08/01/2022 23:19

Induction is not a decision made in a vacuum. Induction has a lot of implications, good bad and indifferent, but it changes things.

Choosing induction means you will give birth in a hospital. That means you need to choose a hospital, preferably be familiar with that hospital, travel to that hospital, be admitted to that hospital sometimes for several days and nights. It’s a big departure from normal life. You’ll need to get some supplies, pack a bag for a hospital stay, prepare for the unknown. You may or may not be allowed visitors. You may or may not be allowed the support of a partner. It might be the first time you’ve ever been in hospital. You don’t know how long you’ll stay, who will be there overhearing your personal health information, how many people you’ll share a room with. You won’t have control over your movements, it can be difficult to get enough sleep, you compromise your privacy, it’s a very vulnerable time. Your baby will have the hospitals address on its birth certificate. They’ll drive past the hospital in thirty years and say ‘that’s where I was born’ In future years your great great great great grandchildren will research their family tree and see this hospitals information.

Consenting to induction means consenting to intimate medical procedures and internal examinations. You may or may not get privacy for these. You likely won’t get much say in who performs these or how it feels to you. You are accepting needles and cannulas, which can be a significant issue to many. You are accepting induction drugs, which can have side effects and complications like any other, without reading the small print. Many women will scan the information leaflet on something to ease a stuffy nose when pregnant in case the drug affects the baby but induction requires you to accept medicines that act on the uterus. Of course they can be life saving medicines, but it’s not unreasonable to ask for the small print.

Induction means letting go of the popular/romantic trope of telling your partner you’re in labour, letting go of the idea of a gradual build up, of dashing to call the midwife or drive to hospital, letting go of the idea of how you thought it might be, how it might go. You let go of the idea of the baby coming when they are ready, choosing their own birthday,. The sweepstake they are doing at work on birthdate suddenly narrows and competition switches to birthweight.

It turns labour from something nebulous that might happen in the future, but can be put to the back of your mind, into something imminent, something marked on the calendar, something real, and that’s scary. For many it’s an adjustment, a swift change to plans, a sudden need to begin maternity leave, an abrupt end to a pregnancy when they thought they had more time, more space. Some women will not be able to keep their baby after birth and need to put back that moment for as long as possible. Some know their baby will be born with difficulties. Some have had previous losses and feel safe and connected in pregnancy, some have had severe previous birth trauma, some are on their seventh baby to an abusive or shit partner who won’t look after the others properly if she has to stay in hospital.

I could go on and on with further implications when the idea of induction is raised. There are endless scenarios which might lead a woman to question the need for or timing of induction, especially a routine one not for urgent medical reasons. Her reasons are 100% up to her, just as yours are up to you.

ellie1789 · 09/01/2022 13:46

Reading this feed makes me feel really sad. No woman should be judged on what she wants to do giving birth. It is her baby and her body at the end of the day. Doctors and midwives are not always right, and are there to give advice.

I think it's a great shame that you can't see passed your own experience to consider that others may have had a different one. Your hospital experience is unique to you. I think you ought to spend more time to listening and speaking to other mums rather than assuming that everyone acts and feels the exact same way. It's what makes life interesting - if we all thought and acted the same way, wouldn't the world be a boring place @bollocksthemess

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