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Talk about every stage of pregnancy, from early symptoms to preparing for birth.

Frank/extended breech

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Ivfgottahope · 16/10/2021 20:52

My DD has been in the extended breech position since my 20 week scan, I’m now almost 33 weeks and I saw a consultant this week about ongoing lack of movement (caused by anterior placenta and her awkward postition apparently) and he said it’s highly unlikely she’s going to turn. Has anyone had a baby in this position from fairly early on to term and gave birth without any issues? Worried about her hips and little legs, it can’t be good for them being locked like that for so long Confused

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ABMUA · 16/10/2021 21:00

Hi sorry cannot be any help coz im in the same position. My baby has been in the same way since 23 weeks and currently 32 weeks. Lets hope they change position before we give birth

Ameteurmum · 16/10/2021 21:11

Mine has been breech since the 20 week scan, I’ve another scan on Monday at 32 weeks but theyve already told me they are not worried until 36 weeks. It’s annoying because I feel like the end point is now so up in the air 🙈 I don’t believe she will move at all having been this way for so long. No lack of movements here though; just feet in my crotch 24/7

Ivfgottahope · 16/10/2021 21:23

@ABMUA have you had any issues with feeling movements? X

@Ameteurmum is your placenta anterior as well & is your little one extended breech too?

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Babdoc · 16/10/2021 21:23

My second baby turned from breech to vertex at 35 weeks, OP. Delivered normally.
You can be checked nearer the time, and plan for an elective section if the presentation is still breech.

Ivfgottahope · 16/10/2021 21:26

@Babdoc yeah I’m not too bothered about having a section - I’m more concerned about any longer term issues from being stuck in an extended position for so long.

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Ameteurmum · 16/10/2021 22:03

@Ivfgottahope - yes complete breech but the placenta isn’t anterior. I’m literally so uncomfortable, the pressure from the head in my ribs is unreal! I don’t want an ECV or any of those shenanigans if she’s still like this at 36 weeks! People keep saying to me she will turn etc but I just don’t see it happening

Ivfgottahope · 16/10/2021 22:06

@Ameteurmum yeah my middle sticks out at the weirdest angle from where her head and legs are! I just can’t believe they can be comfy stuck with they legs in front of this faces for all this time 😂

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SacramentoQueen · 16/10/2021 22:07

One of mine was until turned by ECV at 37 weeks. She was also 9lbs 11 which is another risk factor for hip dysplasia (girls also more likely to have it I think) she was absolutely fine. The doctor who did her newborn check said hips felt strong but had a scan when she was 6 weeks to double check them. All absolutely fine, she’s now 18 months and has had no issues whatsoever. Also had a totally normal birth

FelicityBob · 16/10/2021 22:11

Your baby will have a hip scan a few weeks after she’s born

PoppityBoo · 16/10/2021 22:13

I had a frank breech. Only suspected at 35 weeks but I had been telling the midwife from about 26 weeks that I thought baby was the wrong way round! I had an unsuccessful ecv at 36 weeks. Also had an anterior placenta which apparently can make it harder to turn baby in an ecv and really masked movements for me.
She was my second and as I’d had a straight forward head down birth with my first and she was in a good position I opted for a breech vaginal delivery. Really quick 2.5 hour labour (no time for pain relief!) and she weighed in at a hefty 8lbs 15ozs. She needed a hip scan at about 4/5 weeks which is apparently standard for breech babies?

CraftyGin · 16/10/2021 22:14

I had a frank breech baby and had a natural and fairly uneventful birth.

She did have dislocated hips, but this resolved itself by 12 weeks.

Ivfgottahope · 16/10/2021 22:16

@SacramentoQueen thank you for your message…. Do you know how long your daughter was in that position for?

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Ivfgottahope · 16/10/2021 22:17

@CraftyGin do you know how long your baby was frank breech for? Did she have any treatment at all like a pavlik harness?

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CraftyGin · 16/10/2021 22:23

I think she was frank breech for the whole pregnancy.

In her post birth examination, the paediatrician completely pulled her femurs out of the hip socket Shock.

She had an ultrasound examination at the children's hospital a couple of weeks later (yes, dislocated hips), and again at 12 weeks where everything was back to normal. They had a harness ready for her but decided to see what nature would do.

Interestingly, DH had dislocated hips (he was born by c-section but possibly breech). He was treated by wearing double cloth nappies until he started to crawl (1963).

TambourineTimesThree · 16/10/2021 22:27

My friend had a breech baby (born by section) and she had been in that position for a while. Friend needed to do daily physio exercises with baby during her first 6 months, or so, to correct ankles/feet alignment. All resolved quickly and without any other intervention.

Those I know who've had hip dysplasia and harness were not in breech position.

SacramentoQueen · 16/10/2021 22:32

@Ivfgottahope I can’t remember, sorry! I know that for every growth scan I had from 20 something weeks she was breech so at the latest maybe from 28 weeks?

bowchicawowwow · 16/10/2021 22:33

I was a frank breech baby. No issues caused by being breech but at the age of forty something and overweight I can still touch my toes and put my palms flat on the floor Grin

Heronatemygoldfish · 16/10/2021 22:35

I had a frank breech baby with anterior placenta that was definitely like it at 20wks (made seeing it was a boy rather easy!). I didn't attempt ecv because I was told it would be unlikely to work, quite painful and in any case I was 40, had HG and it was my first... I figured I could do without any more hassle!

Went straight for a planned c-section. DS was fine, no dislocated anything and he's now a gangly teen.

CraftyGin · 16/10/2021 22:37

The most interesting thing about my breech birth was that every junior/student doctor in the hospital descended on my room to witness this miracle baby (breastfeeding by that time).

User0ne · 16/10/2021 22:51

If you're worried about hips you could consider using reusable nappies as they give a lot more support than disposables.

Ds1 was breech (I think from as soon as he settled into a position as I didn't feel him switch) but I also had anterior placenta and no one realised he was breech until I was 7cm dilated. His hips were fine.

ladycarlotta · 16/10/2021 23:07

mine was folded up like a little ironing board when she came out! She could pop her ankles around her head for a while afterwards. But her 4 week hip scan was totally fine and it hasn't been an issue for her so far (she's 2 now).

I know she was head down at the 20 week scan, so she must have turned after that. She did try really hard to turn head down again in my third trimester - several times she went totally horizontal and I could see her head moving down the side of my belly but for whatever reason she couldn't make it all the way. I went for an ECV to try to turn her, 3 people had a go and the consultant said her bottom was just jammed in my pelvis and they couldn't lift her out of it to turn. I think physically it just wasn't going to happen.

The good news is that my elective C section was a calm, friendly, happy experience. The staff were lovely and it went so fast. It was genuinely magical and I wouldn't have done a thing differently. So if you end up on that route, don't worry - it can still be an amazing way to meet your baby.

SoOverThisCrap · 17/10/2021 09:01

@Ivfgottahope just a bit of reassurance, my daughter was born Frank breech (bottom down and feet by her ears), we only found out an emergency growth scan at 39 weeks 😱 so a C Section was my only option, and then my waters broke 4 days before my scheduled C Section date 🤦‍♀️
However, it was all v chilled out. She needed to have a scan at 6 weeks and she had hip dysphasia in both hips. She was in a Pavlik harness for 20 weeks (which I did find upsetting) but she turns 5 next month and she leaps, dances and runs around all the time! She has yearly scans which show she's developing as she should, and after her final scan in a couple of months she'll be signed off. Just to reassure you it's not as scary or daunting as it seems...

Ivfgottahope · 17/10/2021 09:30

@SoOverThisCrap thank you so much, I needed to hear that. I’m bracing myself for the fact she’s been stuck in this position for so long it’s going to be pretty likely so it’s good to hear that there aren’t necessarily long term effects. Did you feel much movement when you were pregnant? I feel some, but not much. The consultant said it’s likely due to my anterior placenta and her in that folded position but you can’t help but worry (plus I’m a ftm so it’s all new anyway!)

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SoOverThisCrap · 17/10/2021 09:37

@Ivfgottahope I'm glad I've helped reassure you 😊 I was also a ftm so I didn't know what to expect either. She moved all the time in the last few weeks especially and woke me up most nights around 2am because she had hiccups!

Ivfgottahope · 17/10/2021 09:41

@SoOverThisCrap was your placenta posterior? (Sorry for a million questions!)

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