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Grandmother drama - what would you do?

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Evianontoast · 22/09/2021 17:24

I wasn't sure what section to put this in, so I thought I'd post here as I'm currently pregnant - sorry if this is in the wrong place.

I'm due to have my first child at the end of the year and we live about an hour away from both my parents and my husband's parents. My mum is over the moon and can't wait for her first grandbaby. She's retired and my parents have already decided they'd like to move closer to us so they can help out/ spend regular time with their grandchild.

My husband's mother hadn't talked much about the future so my husband asked her about what her plan was for spending time with her grandchild once the baby is born.

A little context on both mothers: MIL doesn't like driving long distances because she's scared she'll get lost (she's not very tech savvy and doesn't like the idea of GPS or using google maps). She has never worked but, in her defence, she has raised 3 kids as a single mum for a lot of the time with is obviously the equivalent (or more!) of a full-time job (all kids are grown up and moved out now). She lives in a council house and survives month-to-month off her new husband's paycheck. She has always been very emotionally generous with us and is a very sweet lady but does feel a little hard done by in life, which I think is fair to an extent. My parents have worked all their lives and are by no means rich but they have saved up enough to be reasonably comfortable in retirement and have their own property etc. They are also very emotionally generous but are able to also be generous financially, where they can (they paid for our wedding, for example, which we were so grateful for).

MIL replied to husband's question with "well, you'll have to drive the baby to me at weekends". Husband was a little upset by this and said that would be difficult with a newborn to make the journey every weekend (2 hour round trip). Her response was "Well we're not rich like [my] parents, we can't just afford to move house!". Unfortunately, this resulted in an argument between the two, which wasn't very pretty and they've not been on good terms since. It basically ended with husband (who can be a little hot-headed and say things he doesn't mean) telling his mother that she'd never get to see her granddaughter if she was going to be like that. (Husband is close with my parents and I think was also a little offended by his misunderstanding of their situation).

I can kind of see things both ways. I will admit, my parents do have it very easy compared to MIL and I can see that she'd be frustrated. I can see that MIL wants to spend time with her grandchild, which is wonderful, and ordinarily, we always drive to her to see her but I do think it may become exhausting making the journey every weekend with a tiny baby. We don't want her to move, we just want her to come to us sometimes but she's refusing. Her comments about my family's "wealth" (hardly!) have made us realise that she does compare herself to my parents (which is natural) and so I'm worried she'll be upset if my parents get to see the baby all the time and she only gets to see her once a month or so, because of the driving distance. Husband and MIL don't have a fantastic relationship and I think this will really drive a wedge between them. I've tried to make suggestions that she will be included in her Grandchild's life, like when she was talking about her car, I joked about her having a car seat in there soon and she got a bit huffy with me and said "I've raised my children already, I don't need to raise yours too". I was a bit baffled by this, as I really did mean it nicely and that we would trust her with our child and would love for her to spend time with her, not like I wanted her to raise my child. I don't really know what to do!

In this strangely tense situation, what would you do? Do you have any advice for managing difficult relationships with parents in law and between grandparents?

Thanks for taking the time to read, I appreciate this is a long post!

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HeronLanyon · 22/09/2021 18:24

I agree very often for your DH to ask his mum what her plans were!
Surely (once they’ve got over the unpleasantness!) you’ll see what works. It might well be that sometime you drive 1 hour to see her. Sometimes surely your DH would drive to pick up his dm and bring her over ? Every now and then she could maybe stay over ?
It doesn’t need to be every weekend anyway surely ?! So long as she is involved and sees the baby as best you can all work out ?
Things tend to work themselves out once the baby arrives not now.
Congrats by the way.

HeronLanyon · 22/09/2021 18:24

Odd not often

Bimblybomeyelash · 22/09/2021 18:25

husband asked her about what her plan was for spending time with her grandchild once the baby is born.

That’s such a weird conversation to have!

If it’s difficult for her to travel up to see you, for whatever reason, then you go down to see her as frequently as suits you. For me (in a similar situation) that works out to be roughly once a month.

MaggieFS · 22/09/2021 18:26

Just try an patch things up in the mean time. Otherwise wait until the baby arrives and work things out.

Bear in mind the guidance for newborns is no more than 30 minutes at a time in a car seat though so she might have to meet you halfway or some other compromise.

tofuschnitzel · 22/09/2021 18:26

Like others have said, it seems a little odd that you are asking your parents how involved they will be with your baby, when said baby isn't even here yet. It is your baby, I don't think it is always fair to expect others to be massively involved in your child's life. Surely you need to let the relationship between grandparents and grandchildren develop over time, I think few would be in a position to say we'll see you x number of times a month.

crimsonlake · 22/09/2021 18:26

Another one who agrees it was a very strange question to ask. Wait to see how things sort themselves out once the baby is here.

HeronLanyon · 22/09/2021 18:29

Hi mum. I’m really sorry about the call last week. I didn’t realise how stressed I was about the baby and I was stupidly trying to tie everything down. I’m really sorry for what I said. Of course we’ll come see you and we’ll work it all out once the baby is here.
Can your DH do something like this ? It’s what I’d do when I killed myself together after a call like that and had a chance to laugh at myself. I’d need to apologise big-time.

ArnoldBee · 22/09/2021 18:29

Nothing.

I will be a grandmother in March - my youngest is 9 and I have already told my son that's it's not because we don't care but due geography unlikely to see little one very often. We also both work full time.

You also may find that you want to spend time alone with the 3 of you as a family, catch up on sleep or just do your own thing. You may find that having grandparents move closer may become claustrophobic, You really are putting too much thought into this and just need to relax and take things as they come.

Porfre · 22/09/2021 18:30

I think unless she comes to you she'll just have less time with the baby, so only seeing baby once a month compared to more.

Personally having a newborn is difficult, I wouldn't be doing the journey more than once a month.

saraclara · 22/09/2021 18:31

She has always been very emotionally generous with us and is a very sweet lady

Your DH should get a grip. He's very lucky. He seems to have 'fallen in love' with your parents and stopped appreciating his own.

FWBNC · 22/09/2021 18:34

Yes, seriously odd question to ask someone. Very loaded. It's just one of those things that you wait & see.

Absolutely no way do you need to trek to hers every weekend though!

She can find an easy car route that she's comfortable with or she can sort out a coach/train, but not every bloody weekend either.

I'd be telling her to knock the chip off her shoulder too!

Don't allow her to spoil your or your parents enjoyment of your baby. Especially after her shitty comment.

Disfordarkchocolate · 22/09/2021 18:35

I think you should ignore it all for now.

However, your mother needs to grow up at some point or she will miss out on so much. My son and his wife have children, I see them a lot less than her parents because the live closer. I have to deal with this otherwise it would taint the relationship I have with them all. We also travel to them because its far easier for us than having them pack up small children and drive for hours.

SirChenjins · 22/09/2021 18:42

As others have said, it does look like you and your DH were effectively saying to her that your parents were moving to be nearer you and what was she planning to do to step up to the mark. I’m sure that’s not what you meant, but it’s reading that way and I can imagine why your MIL reacted the way she did.

Just let it blow over and fgs, don’t place any expectations on either parents or start a ‘who can be the best granny’ competition - that’s not fair on either of them.

Howshouldibehave · 22/09/2021 18:42

so my husband asked her about what her plan was for spending time with her grandchild once the baby is born

That sounds like he was asking for an argument and setting her up to fail. Not nice.

Fairywings86 · 22/09/2021 18:57

@Porfre

I think unless she comes to you she'll just have less time with the baby, so only seeing baby once a month compared to more.

Personally having a newborn is difficult, I wouldn't be doing the journey more than once a month.

This^ x
Thatsplentyjack · 22/09/2021 19:03

@Summersnake

Dear god Are you the first person to ever have a baby Get over yourself ,it’s not really a big deal . What a stupid question your husband asked his mum …how involved are u going to be ….ffs You and your husband are causing problems before the baby is even here ..how crap you must of made his poor mum feel
Completely agree. Your dh sound like a spoilt brat.
Dillydollydingdong · 22/09/2021 19:12

Some grandparents like to be closely involved with the new baby. Some prefer a less involved relationship. Both are ok. It's not their baby, they've already brought their children up. If MIL can't or won't spend a lot of time with the baby, that's fine. Certainly not every weekend, or even every other weekend. I'm sure she'll still love him/her.

OnlyFlans · 22/09/2021 19:13

Why is your DH causing unnecessary drama?

You're having a baby, it may be massively important and all consuming for you as a couple (and probably for your parents if they're considering moving house as a result) but not everyone will be massively over invested in the new arrival or wanting to visit every week.

Your husband was being goady and completely overreacted - saying his mother (who you say is a nice lady) can't see her grandchild ffs!

thelegohooverer · 22/09/2021 19:14

Don’t get involved in your dh’s family dramas. Family will make up and move on but everything is so much harder when in laws get involved. Don’t fan the flames either.

It strikes me that your dh’s mum was being sarcastic and putting the ball firmly back in his court. I really wouldn’t take it literally and would leave them to it. He shouldn’t be repeating what she says about your dps (honestly your dh sounds like he enjoys stirring up trouble) because it wasn’t intended for you.

Once the baby comes s/he will be your priority and the feelings of grandparents will take a back seat to baby’s welfare.

cptartapp · 22/09/2021 19:30

You're expecting too much.
Every weekend? Every single weekend?! We saw my DM who lived ten minutes away twice a month on average. Not everyone likes to be around young children, GC or not.
Your parents might want to move closer to help out, but it all seems a bit entwined to me. No doubt you being closer to them will benefit them too as they age. Be careful there. My SIL came unstuck with that in your situation as she was so beholden.

LightDrizzle · 22/09/2021 19:37

@Howshouldibehave

so my husband asked her about what her plan was for spending time with her grandchild once the baby is born

That sounds like he was asking for an argument and setting her up to fail. Not nice.

I agree with this. I also wouldn't assume "at weekends" meant every weekend, however if it does then she can whistle, obviously. Has your DH "adopted" your parents do you think? A friend of ours did this with his in-laws, who were very nice, generous people, but I felt really sorry for his own parents who seemed equally lovely and he never suggested otherwise. It was excruciating at the wedding as his speech was full of praise for his wonderful, welcoming in-laws and not a word about his parents, his poor mum sat there dressed up and be-hatted ...

When the baby comes things will pan out.

I didn't see my grandma weekly or even monthly growing up as she lived 2.5 hours away, I don't think I loved her less and it made seeing her very special. When my eldest was little we saw my in-laws fortnightly and my parents maybe 5 times a year but my mum was my daughter's favourite person in the world (including us I fear Grin).

I share your sympathy for your MIL. I hope everything works out. She can be a lovely and special grandmother without being financially supportive or breathing down your necks.

WhyOhWhyOhWhyyyy · 22/09/2021 19:53

This doesn’t seem like it needed to be an argument.
Just say you’ll aim to go to her once a month, or whatever you feel is reasonable, and then if she wants to see baby more she can come to you or meet halfway.
Given that it’s turned into an argument though probably best to drop it altogether and just let it play out once baby arrives. Is this the first grandchild? I do find people can get quite intense when it’s the first.

NerrSnerr · 22/09/2021 19:54

Was you expecting your mother in law to move house near you as well? What was the desired outcome from the conversation between your husband and his mum?

It all feels very intense. Babies happen. If your MIL is lovely as you say I'm sure you won't mind going to visit as often as you would like. I really don't see the problem. An hour away isn't far.

MushMonster · 22/09/2021 20:01

Wait for your DD to arrive and let it happen.
You will be very busy with the little one.
The GPs can decide what to do at the time.
And you do what suits your little family best.

HoikingUpMyBigGirlPantss · 22/09/2021 20:05

Maybe the way he asked the question of her made her think he was really asking about providing childcare? Otherwise why would he ask in advance of the baby being born?