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Anyone declined induction and asked for C- Section?

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Darklava09 · 30/08/2021 09:38

Hi everyone

My due date is today and I have midwife on Thursday at 40+3. She said she would
Look at booking my induction for 40+12.

I have shared concerns about going so late due to my severed SPD and not being able to walk, find a position comfortable to give birth in and the increase damage to my pelvis and hips if i get inducted and have an epidural as I won’t be able to feel the pain of my legs. I’m also worried baby might be getting too big and will get stuck so I’ll need intervention getting him out.

I’m starting to get quite anxious over it all and struggling to sleep and getting quite tearful. I have been housebound for 5 weeks, my DS is due to return to school next week and I can’t physically get him there and back due to not being able to manage the walk.

When I discussed concerns last week she said it was too little time to get me in to see the consultant and could only book my
Induction for 12 days after and not a moment before as her hands were tied. She advised me that if I was fed up to go to triage and basically moan and see if they will bring it forward.

Has anyone declined the induction process at this stage and pushed for an ELCS? If so, what was your experiences and was it possible?

I feel like I’m being forced to have an induction whereas now I’d rather push for a section for my own mental health and physical health reasons, had I known my SPD would be this severe I would of asked for it ages ago. Again, I feel let down as the midwife kept saying it’s ok “just keep your legs closed”. The physio who I saw at 37 weeks said it’s a severe case and hasn’t helped being left so long.

Advice please?

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cultkid · 03/09/2021 09:38

Call PALs this morning
Call the labour ward

Ask for a review, tell them you've been in touch with pals and that you also need your notes amended as there are lies in it.

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Darklava09 · 03/09/2021 10:55

I just called and ended up speaking to the lead community midwife. She offered to bring me in tomorrow for a second sweep and she said I can discuss my options with her so at least that’s something and I’ll hopefully have more time with her to ask for what I want. She presumed this was my first child but changed her tune when I said it was my second. Hmm

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cultkid · 03/09/2021 11:01

No I would ring and ask for the matron

You don't want a sweep you want a c section

Totally undermining you

RandomDent · 03/09/2021 11:02

It’s irritating how differently they treat you when it’s not your first!

I asked for straight to section instead of induction but I had two things going for me - baby 1 had also been a section, and I was already under consultant care after an amino early on, so he just said yes when I said I didn’t want the drip. I would have tried the gel but they checked the cervix on the day of the booked section and just said no.

Best of luck. You are so allowed to just say no!

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Darklava09 · 03/09/2021 11:07

@RandomDent yes totally! She was like oh is this your first? And I went no my second actually and then asked what happened with the first and I said early and natural and she went oh ok we’ll come and see me.

But like @cultkid I had said look I don’t want to be induced I have bad SPD and the whole thing is making me really anxious and her suggestion was to allow me to do another 2 days over! No chance, no thanks.

I’m taking OH with me tomorrow for support and to help me push for what I want. I want to be booked in for a section either Sunday or Monday at the latest. Is that achievable with time do we think?

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cultkid · 03/09/2021 11:23

Of course it is

They can always do a section,
I would say to them, if you let me go into labour when I have requested a c section repeatedly you will be performing an emergency c section on me when I said I was requesting a planned one

Do not try to induce me I am refusing that treatment and I am letting you know I will complain to NHS England if you let me go into labour, it's utterly negligent.

Bennetgirl · 03/09/2021 11:44

Why are some midwives such ass holes? Mine with dd3 was like this but she did actually end up supporting my decision to go to 14 days over before induction.

This time I’ve got an amazing midwife who fully supports my decision if I go with a c section. My baby is huge this time. But I don’t know if I want 6 weeks of no driving and the no lifting etc. It’s a really hard decision.

I will say though, with your second or more your body knows what it’s doing so induction might not be so bad. I had the drip with dd3 and it was no different to a natural labour. I only had gas and air.

You can do a maternal c section request I think. Basically you request it. Google it and include your hospitals name and it should come up with their policy.

Get dh to fight your corner and prep him before you go in. I go to mush with consultants! You can refuse induction, it’s all your choice.

Write some notes ready for tomorrow so you don’t forget anything and good luck xx

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Darklava09 · 03/09/2021 12:22

@Bennetgirl thank you for your advice. I have spoke to him today and we both know it’s no walk in the park. I had my appendix removed under an emergency and the recovery wasn’t great so I know what to expect in some senses. However, I’d rather have a planned section than end up in an emergency one.

That’s what I keep hearing about second babies etc I don’t know if it’s because I have a big age gap they do often say they treat you as a first time mom again.

It’s funny in my job I have to be so assertive but yet can’t assert myself properly. Need to give my head a wobble. I’m trying really hard to stay calm but I had PND last time and this is really starting to tip me over. I’m so worried about waiting an extra week as my OH has to start his new job and I’d be left with no support at home and a new born baby and no one can say how labour will
Pan out. I really need my OH with me to help even if it’s for a week. I also hate the fact he can’t stay with me for the induction is making me uneasy as they allow them to stay until a time and he would have to come back. I really need him with me right now. Eugh.

I will keep everyone posted. I’ll make some notes also I think.

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cultkid · 03/09/2021 12:59

Call PALs and send in an email it will get you on their radar before your appointment with the head midwife

I was driving two weeks after my last section, the recovery was better then all key hole surgeries I had

I could have a spinal with this section which was amazing as the emergency one I was asleep for it which was horrific

cultkid · 03/09/2021 13:00

Yea me too on the assertion thing. I know what you mean. I sound like an assertive mother fucker here but I generally crumble if it regards my own care. It's because you're already feeling unwell and it's just too much to have an argument xx

Helporhindrance07 · 03/09/2021 13:07

Sorry you’ve had such a hard time. Hopefully you can get a plan together, just wanted to add that I declined induction in favour of a planned c section, the circumstances were a little different but I was getting pressure same as you. One thing I hadn’t expected was that because the “slots” were taken up, I didn’t get a choice on the date of the section, just had to take what I could get, and I ended up being last on the list because the lists were already made and I didn’t have any super high risk factors that meant I needed to be bumped up. So if you do go CS route just prepare that it could be a long wait on the day! Oh and the consultant even tried to suggest induction 10 minutes before the section! That threw me a bit but I held firm.

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Darklava09 · 03/09/2021 13:38

@Helporhindrance07 thanks for that. I think the only thing that may bump me up the list is that I am 40+4 today so would be 41 weeks Monday. So may be more preferable over those who are 39 weeks perhaps. It makes me really angry as I was just reading the rcog guidelines and it clearly states inductions come with risks so I don’t know why they push it so much.

@cultkid well you have deffo helped me
Feel empowered so thank you.

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LunaDreams · 03/09/2021 19:19

Hope your appointment goes well tomorrow @Darklava09..let us know how you get on x

whoknew23 · 03/09/2021 19:25

I will NEVER have another induction, it was horrific . Then once I was in labour and my pain meds ran out they just left me without any (wasn’t allowed an epidural but had other stuff).

Ended up emergency section, if I had known it would end up that way I would have had an elective .

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Darklava09 · 03/09/2021 23:37

@whoknew23 why were you not allowed an epidural!?

Sorry to hear of your experiences. It sounds very common though from what I’ve read so far.

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cultkid · 04/09/2021 07:03

Good luck today xx

whoknew23 · 04/09/2021 09:45

@Darklava09 because I have issues with my blood being too thin, I also had to be knocked out for my csection because of the same issue. Makes me a bit sad I never heard my babies first cry but it’s the way it had to be for us both to be safe .

Chocolatebuttercream · 04/09/2021 10:02

You are not asking them, you are telling them. Say to them 'I do not consent to an induction, I would like you to arrange a c section for me please '. And repeat!

I wish I had done this for my first. I did for my second. And it worked.

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Darklava09 · 04/09/2021 13:27

Well she was a lot more understanding but no real joy. There was no consultant slots this week so she said the only thing I can do is go in for induction but ask to speak to the consultant before the process starts.

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cultkid · 04/09/2021 19:59

I would write to PALS and the matron

Hand deliver the note

Matron will over rule also the consultants

Bennetgirl · 04/09/2021 20:10

Go in for the induction but refuse anything other the a c section. Say you’ve been asking and asking and you’ve told the consultant your not being induced.

If they won’t, go home until a consultant will see you.

Honestly, this makes me so angry. When is your induction booked for?

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Darklava09 · 04/09/2021 20:44

@Bennetgirl another week! I spoke about my SPD, my endometriosis which I forgot to mention in this post and my anxiety. They won’t even consider bringing the “induction” forward. The only way really would be to go in with reduced movements but tbh I don’t like lying about something so serious. When I walk I have to hold my crotch lol and she went oh that’s a good sign and I said no that’s my SPD as it hurts my crotch. Hmm

She said that the c section recovery will take 6-10 weeks Smile haha which makes me chuckle a little. I said well I want to avoid an emergency c section which comes more with risks when being induced and she said well that’s only if baby or mom is distressed. I said yes I know and that’s what I want to avoid. However, contradictory she did say well you know you could end up with an emergency section after induction but then that’s ok with my “6-10 week “ recovery period.

She did say we need to get this baby out then now don’t we.
On my sweep my cervix is not effaced and posterier so would show there’s no change from last week either. So I was advised to have sex, rub my pressure points and sniff sage.

I said well I can speak to the consultant next week and she said you can ask but he doesn’t have to agree. Obv I know he doesn’t have to but they will have to find me
Someone who will. They make you feel like you have no options at all.

@cultkid yes I’m contacting pals on Monday and seeing if I can get a telephone appointment or something with someone. The problem is the community midwives have less say than those who work on labour ward so I need to speak to a matron or someone.

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AnneElliott · 04/09/2021 21:09

I declined an induction op but ended up going into Labour naturally. They really don't like being questioned so they?

The MW I saw told me 'the consultant won't let you go over 12 days'. She was slightly put out when I asked her what on earth she meant by 'let me' since I was an adult with capacity and had therefore to consent to medical treatment.

The consultant was a dickhead as well. Definitely push for what you want and don't let them railroad your into it. Make it clear you won't accept an induction. I just kept repeating that I didn't consent to an induction but would agree to a C section if baby was at risk.

Hope it goes well for you.

cultkid · 04/09/2021 21:35

Just go to the hospital and hand deliver it to the labour Ward ask the clerk for a receipt for it

Fuck this they are treating you like a twat

dM me if you want me to help you write a letter

Its your right to a c section.

cultkid · 04/09/2021 21:36

Write the letter to the matron

Cc in pals

Complain to pals

Cc in matron

Hand deliver both at same time

Make sure you get a received signature from the clerks

Do not let them do this to you

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