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Talk about every stage of pregnancy, from early symptoms to preparing for birth.

Second pregnancy- moments of panic- is this normal?

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Sleeplessem · 07/06/2021 12:26

Hiya,

So I’ll try and drop everything here to it doesn’t come out in bits here and there, but forgive me if I do miss something.

My DD is 20 months old. I found out I was expecting DS just before she was 18 months. I’m about 15 weeks. I know it’s a boy as we had NIPT testing (all low risk thank god).

This baby was unplanned and took me and hubby completely by shock. I’ve always said I wanted a 3 year age gap, so DD would be ‘slightly’ more independent and of course 30 hrs free childcare, but because we’ve always wanted a second child we decided it was fate and that we wanted to continue with everything, god willing. But, I keep having moments of ‘oh my gosh’ can I do this? Is this a mistake? How will I/ we cope (financially, emotionally with everything). My hubby doesn’t quite get it, and I’m not close with my parents ( dad extremely unwell, mother was abusive) and ive not announced to friends and I know one of my friends is struggling to conceive her second so I don’t want to insensitive to her, so I thought I’d ask you lovely lot for a little bit of advice or soundboarding etc.

Parents and carers of children with a 2 year gap, what’s it like? How did you cope? I found the newborn stage with dd terrible (we had feeding issues and I developed severe pnd due to only getting 2 hrs sleep a day for months)
For context, My DD sleeps through the night, is a daddy’s girl, pretty independent and can play independently. Her understanding of speech is very good and her speech is ok, pretty average id say, so I’m hoping by the time baby gets here (she’ll be 26/7 months old) she’ll have a greater understanding of the world and being kind and gentle to baby etc.

Did you feel guilty? I’m feeling so guilty and feeling like a right dead beat towards my DD. I don’t want her to feel replaced. I was still bf’ing my DD when I fell pregnant and at about 12 weeks milk dried up so we stopped and I feel like I’m depriving her. This pregnancy hit my hard, waay harder than my first, I never had sickness with DD but this time the nausea was constant and the only way it went was if I was lying down. GP wouldn’t give anti sickness meds. I couldn’t be around food, so all meal times fell to DH and the few I was I ended up being sick In a bag at the table. So I just feel like I’ve neglected her in this time. My DH has fuelled this worry too at times, saying when we’ve been bickering that I’m phasing her out, that I’m making sickness up and not doing anything. So I just feel guilty, is this normal?

Financially, this is quite a big worry for me. I earn the average salary in the UK, hubby quite a bit above it. We both wfh and will for the long term now. I’m lucky that I work for a company with a great mat leave policy and will get 6 months full pay plus a bonus, I also get KIT days. But I am worrying about money. We have a mortgage and HTB which we are saving to pay off. DH needs a new car as our car will be too small for 2 kids and car seats, so some of our savings will go on that.
Nursery is quite pricey (as we all know) currently DD goes for 3 days a week. Not sure how we’ll manage that for my last 3 months unpaid, she loves nursery, so I don’t want to take her out of it. Also worried about childcare when I go back to work, DD is an early year baby so will be entitled to her 3 hrs from jan but it’s the interim period. We don’t have any reliable family around to help either. I’ve always been a worrier about money, am I being silly here? Please tell me if I am.

This is another biggie, what on Earth do I do for labour? We have no reliable family around. I don’t want to give birth alone, I had quite a poor experience first time around so would definitely need someone around to advocate for me. I’m at a loss for what to do.

I’ve posted about this before, and we reassured by MN, but this baby is a boy and I’d really wanted a girl. (Backstory, is my brother was very very violent from as early as I can remember long into adulthood, I took the brunt of it (encouraged by my mother) but when I left he became violent to my mother too. He also stole and generally was a bully. As adults we are not close as I can never forget his behaviour. History repeating scares me a little, although I do feel better about that now.

There are other things to that come up in my mind, which now I’m typing I can’t recall lol. But I’d love to know, is this normal? Did others feel the same way? And if anyone has any suggestions that maybe I’m not thinking of. Flowers

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tuxedocat · 07/06/2021 13:49

Hi!

I didn’t want to read and run. A lot of your post I can’t relate to as my son will be 4 when we have our baby due at the end of the year but there are parts I deffo do!

Ours was planned pregnancy but I still feel parts of panic like you say, I wonder how I’m going to cope, will he feel pushed out, how our lives will change and we are excited but it’s also terrifying the thought of impacting their lives from everything they’ve known.

I am close with my family but we have zero childcare as we have a family business so I don’t get much time off either. My grandmother helps out but obviously she’s getting older so I hate relying on her. I do worry about that as nearly everyone I know of has SO much help and I just worry about it.

I think it’s all very much normal, though I wish I could say something more helpful about your other worries. Your baby boy will he brought up by you and your husband and you will teach him and show him the way to act and behave so he will have nothing to do with his uncle at all.

Please do speak to your midwive as they might be able to point you to some help for financial and other things possibly like someone to talk to just for an ear to listen to. They might be able to discuss some ideas for when you go into Labour etc, as I’m sure it’s no uncommon at all.

Sending love x

Sleeplessem · 07/06/2021 14:16

@tuxedocat thanks for replying!

I really worry about the age gap.

Labour too, a home birth is 100% out of the window as I’m high risk due to my DD being low birth weight. I’m hoping we don’t go down a similar route here but still. I’ve been feeling anxious lately so I’ve been booked to see the mental health midwife so I’ll discuss it with her xx

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Mncrmum · 07/06/2021 14:56

I just wanted to say, I can relate to majority of your post. I’m 34 weeks today and my daughter is 27 months old. We were in complete shock and the mental strain of planning everything as well as feeling pretty rough whilst looking after a toddler abs working 48hrs /5 days a week, was very hard.
We even had to get another car too!! I get 6 months full Mat pay, but similarly will be getting 30hrs free from I believe the April next year?
I had a traumatic birth and were weighing up elective sections (again, for the reason for limited support during labour).
I don’t have all the answers unfortunately, but I would say that it’s easier to navigate week by week. I realised I didn’t have to make all the decisions in one go, and actually taking time to decide what’s the best solution to some of the problems. I’m also a massive money worrier, but just think you May have the majority of what you need already (or at least know this time what’s essential).

I had huge waves of mum guilt about bringing another baby home abs wondering how DD would react, but she’s now rubbing my bump and saying “little baby sister”, and reminding me that I have to share 😂🙄. The bigger I have become the more she’s recognising it. Nursery have been very good with talking to her about it as well, and making sure that she’s aware what’s happening etc.

Sending you a big hand hold and promise 85 will be all ok. Smile

Sleeplessem · 07/06/2021 15:07

@Mncrmum thank you for replying!

Have you considered a Doula? I was wondering if that would be an option, although dh not being at the birth would be quite upsetting to me, but it’s better than nothing. It was that or maybe try and find a nanny and explain the situation and hope for the best lol?

Thank you for the advice! I think stuff wise, we’re probably ok. We’ll need a new car seat, clothes and a toddler bed but all the stuff from dd is in pretty good nick, so can deffo be used again.
Are you getting a double pushchair? For some reason im very against the idea lol, they seem too clunky. I was debating getting like a toddler stand or little seat that clips on the back?

I know how lucky we are with 6 months as a lot do women just get 6 weeks, so im really grateful but it still worries me, but im probably over thinking. Wonder if we work in similar fields lol
Xx

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tuxedocat · 07/06/2021 15:12

So glad you’re booked into speak to someone. Even if it’s just to get it off your chest, I’m sure it will help ❤️

Sleeplessem · 07/06/2021 15:19

I hope so, I’m probably just feeling a bit overwhelmed. Xx

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mswales · 07/06/2021 19:52

I haven;t got any advice really other than to say I think all these feelings are completely normal, everyone panics a bit about number 2 and feels guilty towards number 1. But I did want to say the part of your post where you say your husband accused you of making up your nausea and neglecting your daughter worried me so much - this is an absolutely awful thing to say (emotionally abusive even) - are there other ways in which he is this uncaring/nasty? I really hope this was a one off and not representative of the way he treats you. That's not okay. Good luck x

Sleeplessem · 07/06/2021 20:03

@mswales thanks for replying!

For the most part he’s not like that at all. He has a habit of lashing out and saying things in the heat of moment or when he gets triggered, he always goes for things that hurt too! Obviously I’m not perfect either, but I do think he thinks it’s unfair that these things have fallen to him (dd can prat around a little at meal times too lol) but I still, even when I was feeling so so sick, did 98% of the cooking. It was just the actual meals and snacks made me hurl. I’d try to help with the cleaning and tidying but I was pretty slow, the movement made me feel so ill. He just says ‘well other women do it’ ‘I see pregnant women mowing the lawn’, I think he thinks well she felt fine before, what’s the problem now. He knows I’m high risk, and I’ve been explicitly told to take care of myself and not over exert xx

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Peachee · 07/06/2021 20:27

Honestly another one in a similar boat however your boat looks magnificent compared to my dinghy lol!
Joking aside..
Surprise pregnancy the month after leaving my job ..
I have now earned enough to get maternity pay but I am temporarily employed and my partner isn’t on a great whack..
My son is 18 months and will be 22 months when the baby is born.
I feel exactly the same as in panic, guilt (massive) about my first born.
I’m also on boy number 2 and this will definitely be my last.
I found the newborn baby stage really hard and have just enjoyed getting my life back a bit. Let alone bringing up a child in lockdown with no support network and just your home and a short walk nearby for entertainment.
Maybe we could form a little group??
I’m sorry about your brother but I can guarantee your little boy will be a reflection of you and all the lovely qualities you possess will be seen reflected back at you. Children are so innocent. Congratulations.. and eek for all of us on this thread. I’m sure it will bumpy but we can get through. All the very best xxx

Sleeplessem · 07/06/2021 20:29

@Peachee I’d honestly love to form a little group

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Peachee · 08/06/2021 16:33

Aww yeh let’s do it! Where are you from. I haven’t got fb but happy for a WhatsApp group if anyone else is interested.. is that safe? If not a thread on here I don’t mind.. I likewise don’t have many friends either.. would be cool just to chat for support and a bit of a laugh?? Xxx

Sleeplessem · 08/06/2021 21:55

@Peachee I’m happy for a whatsapp group, if that’s safe?

If not we could totally created a thread ‘second baby and shitting it 😂’

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Peachee · 08/06/2021 22:07

🤣🤣 love it.. is anyone else on the thread wanting to link up???
I don’t mind WhatsApp.. as long as others feel comfortable!
Xx

obvsnotasecretgarden · 08/06/2021 22:13

Didn't want to read and run.
I have a 3 year age gap. I would have had a 18 month but I lost him at 23 weeks.

Those moments of panic? I still have them now and he's currently 5 weeks old sleeping in his mamaroo Grin it's normal and btw I think a 2 year age gap is great from my friends and also my daughter as she literally just turned 3, she's FULLY AWARE her life has changed. A 2 year old will forget after a week or so, where as my daughter keeps saying she "misses old mummy before baby came". GrinBlush

Sleeplessem · 08/06/2021 22:24

@obvsnotasecretgarden I’m really sorry for your loss Flowers

Thanks for your reassurance! Xx

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Sleeplessem · 08/06/2021 22:26

@Peachee shall we make a thread then? And can play the WhatsApp by ear.

First question: to get a double buggy or not? 🤷‍♀️

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Bluebell56 · 09/06/2021 00:04

@Peachee

🤣🤣 love it.. is anyone else on the thread wanting to link up??? I don’t mind WhatsApp.. as long as others feel comfortable! Xx
Omg yeah, totally up for a WhatsApp! Pregnant with my second, will be born when my first is 22 months and yes weirdly enough before I read this I had my weekly moment of sheer panic 🥴
Peachee · 09/06/2021 04:36

Hah yes let’s do the thread instead and see how it goes.. me, you and @Bluebell56 so far 👍🏻👍🏻 .. I think your thread title suggestion sounds great..

Sleeplessem · 09/06/2021 09:34

Fab I’ll make a threat called ‘second baby and shitting it - a support thread’ in the pregnancy section

Is it just the same as creating a new post? Xx

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Peachee · 09/06/2021 15:05

Yeh I think so I’ll have a look for it! X

Peachee · 09/06/2021 15:07

Can you tag us in it I’m struggling to find it atm.. I’m not great on these forums sorry xx

Sleeplessem · 09/06/2021 15:29

I think I’ve tagged you both

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