Total long shot....

[Honey2]

Hi all,

Sadly I went for an early scan last night (for ‘reassurance’ after previous mc’s) but found there was a yolk sac but no Foetus or even foetal pole. I believe I was between 6+3 and 6+6 when I had the scan. The sonographer pretty much said with certainty that for those dates there definitely should have been a foetus and more than likely a heart beat.

Im booked into NHS EPU tomorrow for a follow up scan to confirm.. I know really there is no hope, but just in case a miracle is possible, has anyone else had a similar scenario at this sort of timing and had a positive outcome??

I know early scans divide opinion on here but whatever happens I’m personally really glad I went as I’ve had no bleeding or pain I and would have been even more devastated if I’d have gotten to the 12 week scan to find id miscarried at 6 weeks.

Hi OP,
Are you sure about when you ovulated? It could be that you ovulated a lot later than you thought.

However if your dates are correct, I think unfortunately the sonographer is also correct. At least about seeing a foetus. If it was just the heartbeat that was an issue, I could offer you more words of optimism

@Oodilallygolly thanks for replying... unfortunately I think it very unlikely I’m less than 6+3

I I think I ovulated on 10 Feb and last time I dtd was 11 Feb, so even if I did ovulate later I’m guessing sperm would have lasted only 2-3 days after 11th Feb so conception 14th at very latest? making me 6+3 minimum 😥

Sending lots of luck for you op.

Try not to count yourself out just yet. Even if you’re certain of ovulation date, sorry can live up to 5 days, and then the fertilised egg can take up to 12 days to implant and start producing hcg etc.

X

@Honey2 I hope it’s good news for you. Just wanted to say it is absolutely possible for sperm to last 5-6 days! Last time I got pregnant that happened to me.

@MollySxx thanks for replying, I’m about 5 weeks after ovulation, but they normally add the 2weeks before ovulation don’t they? as they date a preg from LMP not ovulation?

Confusingly my LMP was actually 1st Feb but I was tracking temp and I’m 95% sure I ovulated early on 10th feb

@Honey2 I'm currently in a situation where I got a scan at 5+4, based off LMP, saw an empty sac and got told to come back a week later, went back and still empty, but grew from previous scan, back a week later and it grew again and saw a yolk. I was told to wait 2 weeks and I'm 2 days away from my next scan to see if progression is still rolling or if it's a foaled pregnancy. I wouldn't count yourself out. See what they EPU have to say and take that as gospel.

I've posted so many times about this situation and there has been so many positive stories. For example people not seeing heartbeat till 9 weeks. So please don't think the worst (should tell this to myself😂) but have faith x

Failed pregnancy*

And just to add, I didn't track ovulation. But if I go by what the EPU say I'm 7 weekish, instead of the 9 weeks counted from LMP

@MollySxx thanks for your kind words. Wishing you all the best for 2 days time... please come back and update us

For me, The EPU did suggest that after tomorrow’s scan they most likely would want to wait another week to make absolutely sure, so looks like it could be a long journey!

@Honey2 I got my first scan with them a month ago, so it's been a long journey with many outcomes to say the least. Just take it as it comes, don't worry yourself to much. Because I had nights where I would cry myself to sleep with worry. Each scan I've had they've had a different opinion and not once have they said it looks like a miscarriage. All of them have said so early having these scans can be so unreliable. So keep the faith, and if you aren't bleeding, then take that as a good sign also. I haven't bled x

Hi OP - I went for an early scan and was measuring a week earlier than I expected. I'm now 39 weeks pregnant. Sometimes our bodies do strange things, babies are also so hard to measure properly when they're so tiny too. I wish you the best of luck, be kind to yourself in the waiting period x

Hi @Honey2 your dates are almost identical to mine, and a very similar situation.

My LMP was 24/01 and I think I ovulated 10/02 based on OPKs.

I had a scan last week (when I should have been 6w) which showed only a yolk sac, which looked perfect for 5weeks. Sonographer said it was almost certainly a mc if my dates were correct. (I have already had 3 in the last year so this was no surprise).

They said I needed a rescan in a week to confirm, which I had this week at 7w exactly. I was expecting to see nothing but instead there was an embryo, and a heartbeat. Sadly the hb was very slow, and embryo teeny, so it's unlikely this will work out and I am expecting to miscarry imminently. But it does show that something can appear in just a week, and I really hope that happens for you with a better outcome.

@treesall thanks for commenting.. I remember your username from the November 21 thread.

Unfortunately I was scanned today and the sonographer saw only a gestational sac so the yolk sac that was seen on Tuesday has now disappeared - he said it’s most likely been reabsorbed. This shows pretty clearly I’m going backward not forward ☹️

The frustrating thing now is that the nhs cannot use the private scan info, so to them today was scan 1 and they cannot confirm a mc diagnosis until they have rescanned me in 1 weeks time. So another week to wait before I can move on 🙁

It’s so sad isn’t it.. I’m really sorry you are also going through similar. The fact you had a HB with your baby sounds more positive but I know that been given false hope is worse than just coming to terms with the reality. That said I will keep it everything crossed for you.

Since you have had multiple mc’s have they referred you to the recurrent mc clinic?

Oh I'm so sorry @Honey2 , I was really hoping you would get better news.

I had the same problem with my first mc - had to wait 3 weeks in the end to have first and then second EPU scans before they were able to accept it was a miscarriage, even though I knew 100% after my first (private) scan.

My GP supposedly referred me in January, but nothing has happened and when I went to the EPU for this pregnancy they said there is no record of any referral. I can't now get a referral until this pregnancy is over, but I will push for it as soon as it is. Also considering going to see someone privately because there's a doc with a very good reputation locally. Just gotta come to terms with the scary cost!

I'm sorry you're in this situation. The waiting is just horrible. I've gotta wait 2 weeks til my next scan at which I am certain they will confirm the mc. I hope you are coping ok xx

@treesall that sounds that a really painful journey. I get that they want to give the pregnancy every possible chance but it really does prolong the agony :( How rubbish they have no record of the referral! Private may be the way forward if you can afford it. Although you should certainly qualify for help from NHS so you should continue to push for that. Can you speak to a different gp who might be more proactive??

I’m coping ok, but the big decision for us is wether to try again or not. I’m 41 in May and this preg was supposed to be our last one. I don’t really want to be 42 and having a baby so we’d have to try and get preg almost straight away. Not sure yet if I can cope with all this again (I’ve read the odds of mc in your 40’s are 50/50).

thankfully we are so very lucky that despite 2 other mc’s along the way I do also have 3 healthy boys. Maybe I need to be grateful for what I have and make a tough decision it’s the end for us 😢

@Honey2 there are countless stories on here of ladies having babies well into their 40s...you shouldn't let that be the reason you don't try again, it and when you're ready.

There's no right answer but I hope you will feel able to try again if that's what you want to do x