Empty sac at 2 previous early scans, another scan tomorrow

[MollySxx]

I feel like I’ve posted this 500 times🤦🏼‍♀️ But please I’d anyone has been through this, has knowledge, advice. Please feel free to jump in.

I am currently pregnant, 7 weeks +3 if I’m going by my LMP on January 11th. I have had 3 miscarriages before this pregnancy. My one in April also being an empty sac that I discovered at my 9 weeks early private scan. I bled with that one, so there was my answer.

This pregnancy I haven’t bled, haven’t had pain. Hardly any other signs other than sore boobs/nipples.

I had my positive test feb 6th, had an early scan on feb 19th, showed an empty sac which was 3mm, had another scan a week later and still empty, but 7mm this time. I’m back tomorrow for another scan and I just know this isn’t good news. For the 4th time now I just know it’ll be “sorry, you’re having a miscarriage”

I didn’t track ovulation because we were taking a break, some “break”😂🤰🏼 I’ve been taking tests and there are strong as anything. I know a tests doesn’t give answers, but I’ve never had them this strong. Digital tests been 3+ for the last week now. I just don’t know what to do. I’m so confused

I don’t have any words of wisdom just wanted to wish you luck for tomorrow 💖

I’ve been there. It’s such an awful place to be.

With my first mc, I bled and that was that. But with my second mc I never bled but scans showed a growing, but empty, sac.
I had it confirmed at my third scan that it was an MMC (missed miscarriage) at 8 weeks pregnant, where your body doesn’t realise that the pregnancy has ended and continues to support it.
I was given the option of medical management or surgery. I chose surgery (ERPC) because I wanted my body back to normal ASAP. It is such a personal decision though.

There is a small possibility that you ovulated late and things may be different at your next scan.
But it’s more likely that you will be told bad news. I’m so sorry you are going through it. It’s so shit.
Please research your options yourself and push for what you want. Some hospitals are very unwilling to allow surgery but it is totally your choice, not theirs.

@Rosebud2016 so sorry🥺 it’s the most heartbreaking feeling. I really am trying, but I don’t know if I can do this again if this one is bad news. I just know in my heart of heart it will be. It almost makes me feel embarrassed I can’t do the one thing a woman’s body is meant to do. I was sobbing in bed last night just beside myself with worry.

If I really clutch at straws, I may I’d ovulated on the 22nd jan, which would line up with her saying I was 5 weeks last week. But that’s if I really really just think into every possible outcome.

I’m ready for the news tomorrow and what will be will be. I’ve done it before, I’ll do it again. I never thought I would be wishing for bleeding to start, but really wish it would so I could have my answer and stop with the anxiety of going to the hospital x

Thinking of you op I know that fear I had a miscarriage last year and convinced if I fall pregnant again it will end the same way

@Pompom2367 I really had a good feeling about this one because I had the support from the recurrent miscarriage consultant, I’m on progesterone pessaries, baby aspirin, higher dose folic acid. Really thought I had this one and it was my sticky baby. It’s sad I no longer have that positive outlook. It’s a cruel thing

@MollySxx I know the feeling of shame and embarrassment. I felt exactly the same. We were also diagnosed as infertile so we were having IVF too. It just felt like my body was never supposed to be pregnant and I’d forced it onto my body.

Great that you have your recurrent miscarriage consultant there to guide you on your next steps if you do receive bad news tomorrow. It may be that you need to increase your progesterone dose further- push for that to be checked by your consultant if they haven’t been doing do already. Or it might not be an issue with your body at all- maybe it’s a sperm issue or maybe it’s just extremely bad luck.

Easier said than done but try not to give up hope. X

@Rosebud2016 my progesterone levels weren’t checked, they just gave me the pessaries as a precaution. I don’t think it’s ever been mentioned in a scan. So I may ask on Friday about it. I’m on 400mg twice daily as of right now

So I was on 400mg twice a day with my second pregnancy too, and my progesterone was checked and was too low still! So it’s a possibility that you levels could still be low. The low levels may have caused an issue with my second pregnancy. Or it may not have been viable anyway but you should definitely get it checked- my GP did it but he is lovely and didn’t have to. (My IVF clinic was abroad so I couldn’t rely on them to check for me)

For my next pregnancy my progesterone dose was doubled! I was still doing the pessaries but having progesterone injections too. And my levels stayed nice and high that time.

@Rosebud2016 I never knew that was a possibility, wow! I shall definitely ask tomorrow. If not for now, for future reference as well

@MollySxx Definitely do. Arm yourself with as much information as possible about progesterone and it’s importance in sustaining healthy pregnancies. Also research your options for if you receive bad news tomorrow, and push for what you feel is best for you.

I wish you sooooo much luck for tomorrow. I really hope you ovulated late. Still get that progesterone level checked whatever the outcome though.

Keep us updated x

I had a missed miscarriage in 2017 sac was empty
2019 i had my ds no bleeding or complications
2020 oct i had a miscarriage at 4/5 weeks
2020 dec got pregnant again had my dating scan today baby has no heartbeat at 9 weeks got another scan to confirm only started spotting sunday evening

@BlessMeLord oh my, I’m so sorry! Sending you my love x

@MollySxx thankyou... so heartbreaking seeing the baby but no heartbeat

UPDATE for this thread!

So had the scan and she saw a yolk sac in the sac this time, so it’s not empty anymore. The consultant went over my first 2 scans and the HCG bloods I had when I was 4 weeks and 5 days pregnant and I had another lot when I was exactly 5 weeks. and putting all the scans together shows progression. The sac was close to 7mm last week, now is 9mm. So they don’t know if they’ve just scanned me super early. Or the pregnancy is going really slow and not reaching its milestones, but he wants to give me a chance. So I’m going back in 2 weeks from now and if nothing has really progressed now there is a yolk sac, then a miscarriage will be diagnosed. So a bit of hope, mixed in with no hope🤷🏼‍♀️x

@MollySxx Hopefully they just scanned you super early. Yolk sac is good progression! Hope you are doing okay

Good luck OP! If things don’t work out, look into reproductive immunology/NK cells.

@MollySxx Keeping my fingers crossed for more positive news in the coming weeks. X

@Rosebud2016 really hope so. I wasn’t expecting the yolk sac yesterday, so it could surprise me. But I am still doubtful of that. Surely it’s normal since my LMP was jan 11th and I had my first, very faint positive on feb 6th. I just feel so confused and in limbo. So hoping I just have a slow grower. Can’t seem to find anything to read about similar experiences either x

I truly hope you have a happy and positive outcome and just a slow grower as you said.
The thing that would concern me the most is that the sac should be growing a mm per day in the first trimester, and if yours only grew 2mm in a week is doesn’t sound too positive.
BUT every pregnancy is different and fingers crossed by the next scan everything will have had a growth spurt! X

@MollySxx It’s so difficult because there is so much more uncertainty with your position- it may be that you ovulated late and also implanted late, and that could account for your scan results.

Whilst with me I had IVF, so knew my dates for definite. And I had a visable yolk sac in all 3 of my scans but no visible embryo. So a mmc was far easier to diagnose.

The limbo you are in, and have to remain in for the next 2 weeks, is awful. I’m so sorry.

Wishing you all the very best for your baby op

@Rosebud2016 trying to stay as positive thinking as I can, but also not foolish enough to not prepare myself for a bad outcome.

Clinging on to the fact I could of ovulated late as I didn’t track it. But I have 2 friends who are early pregnant like I am, both had scans and both saw heartbeats. Even my friend who is a week behind me has had her early scan and saw the heartbeat. And there is me🤦🏼‍♀️

@Moominmiss it only growing 2mm is what really worried me. Least in the other 2 scans it has good growth progression from 3mm to 7mm. I really don’t know at this point, I’ve given up🤷🏼‍♀️

@ruruvision

Wishing you all the very best for your baby op

Thank you so much🤞🏼