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LucindaE · 27/01/2021 19:26

I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
sites.google.com/site/pregnancysicknesssos
Another invaluable website is:
www.pregnancysicknesssupport.org.uk
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
cks.nice.org.uk/topics/nausea-vomiting-in-pregnancy
cks.nice.org.uk/nauseavomiting-in-pregnancy
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.

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Sarahmummy1989 · 20/05/2021 09:46

Hey all. Almost at the 12 weeks mark so I'm hoping soon this starts to wear off. I have some really rough days where I wanna just lay in bed coz I feel so sick. And some days where I hardly feel sick at all. So I'm always worrying. I have antibsickness tablets which help me stop actually being sick. But the all day nasea is horrible.
I find myself just eating fruit, baby bells and chips from work. And drinking Coke or Pepsi.
Hope everyone is going well and there is a light at then end.
I didn't think that 6 weeks ago but here I am

Marnie1234 · 20/05/2021 10:38

Hi everyone just an update 4th day today on ondansetron! I honestly wish I had them from the start Iv managed to wear for 4 days and drink and haven’t thrown up once! Still limited on what I eat but slowly trying new things .. I even managed to go to home bargains yesterday I haven’t been in 10 weeks! Obviously bought things I didn’t need and spent a lot but I deserve that! Haha, it’s my gender scan tomorrow 16 weeks 😀 last week I didn’t think I would be going but now I’m excited can finally feel excited I hope everyone is having a good day and if anyone is struggling please don’t there is some anti sickness that WILL work xxxx

Marnie1234 · 20/05/2021 10:38

Eat not wear* xx

Ysa15 · 20/05/2021 14:04

I feel back to square one. Not keeping stuff down again, scared of hospitalisation..:(

LucindaE · 20/05/2021 17:10

Flutterby8 That's great news. I hope the headache soon goes.

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LucindaE · 20/05/2021 17:17

That's weird - I only got Flutterby8's message just now, nobody elses'.
Ysa15 Sorry to hear that; could it be a hormonal surge? Remind me what meds you are on?
Marnie1234 Good news.
Sarshmummy1989 That sounds a fairly reasonably healthy diet in some ways, though boring; good news. Sorry to hear of lingering nausea.

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Ysa15 · 20/05/2021 19:15

I’m on cyclizine and prochlorperazine. I’ve stopped taking them as I reckon they’re making worse, they seemed to always trigger a vomiting episode and extra saliva which ends up in 24/7 nausea. I’ve managed to eat some fruit from being off them so I’m not tempted to start taking them again :/

SB91 · 20/05/2021 20:29

This is my first pregnancy and I'm 8 weeks, have suffered with HG since week 5 and it has been the worst weeks of my life. I'm feeling so down, I've had to take a week off work so far and don't know how or when I'll be able to get back to normal. It is so tough. I was prescribed ciclizine 50mg for 10 days and now stretemil. Neither have really helped, I'm vomiting anything I try to get down me. People say it gets better at 12 weeks, please let this be the case. I don't know how much more I can take.

SB91 · 20/05/2021 20:42

Has anyone else struggled to swallow their pregnancy vitamins or keep them down? I know it's really important to have folic acid but I haven't been able to be consistent in taking mine because of the vomiting.

mamaatthegym · 20/05/2021 23:44

Hi all,

I’ve lurked but not posted. Someone pointed me here from another thread. I’m 11+3 and suffering with I guess what I can only describe at vomit-less HG if that’s a thing. I have a big heave/bile run in the morning and just manage to clamp my throat shut for the rest of the day although 10% of the time I can’t stop it. This means no intervention from GP or midwife because I can’t possibly be dehydrated as I’m keeping fluid and food down - can’t really complain. On my 4th anti-sickness from GP which, as usual is doing nothing. GP has said this is the last thing she has to give me.

Feeling deflated, hopeless, useless, got my 12 week scan tomorrow and the sickness has just taken all the excitement and happiness away from me. I spend most of the day just trying not to vomit. I suppose I am lucky enough to be able to control it to some extent.

Agh, rant over.

So sorry to those suffering.

@sb91 I’ve barely taken any of my vitamins, I was the same with DD1 and she turned out fine. I’d been taking folic acid since 4 months before I conceived this time so I’m kind of hoping I had enough stored! It’s hard not to feel guilty about it though and in an ideal world I’d have taken them religiously!

SB91 · 21/05/2021 08:59

@mamaatthegym thank you for the reassurance, that's really helpful. I took folic acid prior to conceiving as well so hopefully it's the same for me 🙏

intheloudhouse · 21/05/2021 09:44

How likely is it for the nausea to get better compared to how likely it is for it to last all the way through? 21 weeks tomorrow and I thought I had maybe turned a corner this past few days but nope.. since yesterday back to awful nausea and barely being able to eat or drink again..

SB91 · 21/05/2021 13:26

@intheloudhouse I'd like to know that too.

Has anyone been prescribed promethazine hydrochloride tablets for their sickness? I was on cyclozine for 10 days and now been prescribed 10mg Promethazine Hydrochloride, two tablets a day. I know nothing is 100% safe but any reassurance would be helpful. The doctor prescribed it and I've left a message with my midwife to check that it's okay to take but they haven't responded yet.

mamaatthegym · 21/05/2021 13:34

@SB91 I was on promethazine before this one and I didn’t have any side effects however I was on a one dose a day (at night) one so may be a different type? I found I slept soundly on it. It’s of my personal opinion that the GP wouldn’t prescribe anything that wasn’t safe, which helped me relax a little.

SB91 · 21/05/2021 13:38

@mamaatthegym that's great thank you. I have read that it makes you drowsy so I'm not sure taking it in the day will be ok as I really need to work. I may just take it at night. I keep trying to remind myself that they wouldn't prescribe anything that is unsafe.

LucindaE · 22/05/2021 19:18

Sorry everyone - my laptop wouldn't let me log in yesterday.
Welcome to SB91 and Mamaatthegym. Great advice from everyone as ever.
SB91 If Stemetil isn't working after Cyclizine , there are others that they can try, or add. Do ask for an alternative. Unfortunately, this does go on a bit longer on average than normal pregnancy sickness, but even that often goes on for longer than 12 weeks. Most people do get a lot better at some time in the second tri, and even those unlucky ones who suffer throughout don't usually feel anything like as bad later on as they do early on. Never worry about taking the meds. They are super careful these days. Here is my normal spiel that I hope will help. ere is my normal spiel which I hope might help. Most sufferers find that they improve a lot at some point between weeks 14 and 20. Even those who are unlucky enough to suffer throughout generally are not as ill later on as they are in the first part. A good anti acid can make a surprising difference to the sickness. Kesostix are worth buying online or from a chemists, as while they aren't they best test of dehydration, hospitals take them seriously. When reporting on the vomiting to doctors, remember to emphasize the number of heaves in each vomiting session, as doctors tend to count these as 'vomits' and this can lead to their underestimating the severity of your symptoms. Besides drinking through a straw, here are some drinks that have helped others: full sugar flat coke (if you don't find it too acid), ice lollies, the juice of tinned fruit, Lucozade, apple juice, Ribina, Dr Pepper, soda water, Elderflower water, tonic water, ice cubes, Iron Bru, lemonade, lemon squash, orange squash, orange juice (if not too acid), fizzy orange, 7Up, isotonic drinks, sips of chocolate milkshake (maybe soya), fizzy water, apple juice, Robinson's fruit drinks, Rubicon sparkling mango drink , raspberry Lucozade sport and frozen ice cubes of flat Lucozade sport . Foods of a sort include tinned fruit, cuppa soup, nibbles of crisps and chips, cheap ice cream, Scotch pancakes, bagels and biscuits and slices of melon and mango.
Mamaatthegym That does sound dismal. At least you have the reassurance that you don't have to worry about ketones from dehydration and starvation. Might an anti acid help? I hope you get some reassurance soon.
Ysa15 If those meds are actually making you worse, do aks for alternatives, though it is frustrating having to keep on arguing for different meds.
intheloudhouse I am sorry about the relapse after some good days.
Good days can be a really good sign of the turnaround to come. A lot of women get a hormonal surge at 20-21 weeks; might that be it?

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LucindaE · 23/05/2021 20:06

I hope everyone is managing to totter through one day at a time. Or possibly, better...

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LucindaE · 24/05/2021 21:36

And I hope everyone is managing today...Flowers

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composed · 24/05/2021 23:54

Hello everyone, I just wanted to share that I had my baby girl last thursday via c section at 37 weeks. All went well and we are both at home recovering now, she is a diddy thing at 5lbs 10oz but my babies tend to be small.

This is the 4th hg pregnancy and my last and I won’t say any of them have been easy so I know what everyone is going through. I would highly suggest getting a plan in place re meds and care/support for other lo’s you may have. @LucindaE advice re food and drink is very helpful too as is the PSS website and helpline.

Most importantly though I would say be as kind to yourself as you can, know that it will end even during the darkest days and moments you may go through.

I truly wish you all the best and hope everyone starts to see more better days than bad, use this thread to vent and share we are all in the same boat and everyone is so nice too. @LucindaE thank you so much for all your support and kind words which got me through 2 hg pregnancies now, even the smallest encouragement and empathy during these two pregnancies were worth more to me than all the gold in the world as I truly did see myself staring into an abyss at times. I can only hope the future will present those going through hg a ‘cure’ or atleast better all round care.

Thank you all x

LilmissCa · 25/05/2021 13:37

Hi Ladies
Joining your club, the information in the last posts have helped me feel like I can get a bit of control over this.

I'm 6w5d, had standard nausea from 5.5weeks but since Sunday it hit another level with vomiting. The last 2days I could only manage a glass of water a day which spurred me to ring the GP. They testing urine & ketones is 3 & I've been advised to drink as much water as possible. Was prescribed cyclizine & took one so far with little impact. If I don't have an improvement in 24-48 hrs then i am to call back & will need hospitalised.

How much water do I need to drink to lower the ketones/ stop dehydration? The gp said 8 glasses but that is a bit unrealistic for me right now.
If I'm hospitalised what is the process? A day patient on drip or in overnight/days?

Ysa15 · 25/05/2021 14:06

I’m just out of hospital for the third time. It took at least 5 drips for my ketones to start to lower I don’t think you’d be able to consume the amount of liquid needed if you’re vomiting. They should really be admitting you at that stage.

Sending well wishes to everyone.

LilmissCa · 25/05/2021 14:41

@Ysa15 wow 5 drips! Def not an in & out for drip visit then.. I'm clearly clueless to all this. Hope that's helped you feel better

Mfsf · 25/05/2021 16:10

Hi 🙋‍♀️ I’m only 6 weeks pregnant, o had HG on my second pregnancy a few years ago but started later . This time I’ve had non stop nausea from 5 weeks and excess salivation . I’m only vomiting twice a day because I’m only eating twice a day . I feel hungry but I will then try to eat and straight away I gag and the nausea gets even worse . I’m able to digest small amounts of fizzy water but no juice or normal water . At most I can have a few sips of innocent smoothie like drink .
This is a rainbow baby after a loss and I was trying to avoid medication but I don’t think I can carry on like this for much longer .
My partner is sympathetic but doesn’t seem to realise how fatigued I am and how hard it truly is .

LilmissCa · 25/05/2021 17:17

Which reading on the ketostix do I go by.. the ++ or the numbers?

My gp is now closed so going to try & wait till the morning.

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LucindaE · 25/05/2021 19:33

Welecome to LilmissCa and Mfsf. LilmissCa I beleive both? That looks like a lot of ketones, unfortunately, and as Ysa15 says, it does look as if you will have to phone back and report no improvement. asap. It isn't realistic to expect you to be able to drink eight glass of water.
Hopefully, the fluids will make you feel better and they wiill prescribe a useful regime of medication. Here is my normal spiel that I hope will help. ere is my normal spiel which I hope might help. Most sufferers find that they improve a lot at some point between weeks 14 and 20. Even those who are unlucky enough to suffer throughout generally are not as ill later on as they are in the first part. A good anti acid can make a surprising difference to the sickness. Kesostix are worth buying online or from a chemists, as while they aren't they best test of dehydration, hospitals take them seriously. When reporting on the vomiting to doctors, remember to emphasize the number of heaves in each vomiting session, as doctors tend to count these as 'vomits' and this can lead to their underestimating the severity of your symptoms. Besides drinking through a straw, here are some drinks that have helped others: full sugar flat coke (if you don't find it too acid), ice lollies, the juice of tinned fruit, Lucozade, apple juice, Ribina, Dr Pepper, soda water, Elderflower water, tonic water, ice cubes, Iron Bru, lemonade, lemon squash, orange squash, orange juice (if not too acid), fizzy orange, 7Up, isotonic drinks, sips of chocolate milkshake (maybe soya), fizzy water, apple juice, Robinson's fruit drinks, Rubicon sparkling mango drink , raspberry Lucozade sport and frozen ice cubes of flat Lucozade sport . Foods of a sort include tinned fruit, cuppa soup, nibbles of crisps and chips, cheap ice cream, Scotch pancakes, bagels and biscuits and slices of melon and mango.
Mfsf Sorry to hear you feel so bad and for your previous loss.
As you are a veteran, you don't need the normal spiel I've quoted above. What anti emtics were you prescribed last time, if any? Do approach the GP to ask for some as there is some evidence that early treatment tends to be more effective in controlling it. An anti acid can be really helpful.
Ysa15 Sorry to hear you had to be admitted. I hope they can work out a regime of meds that helps. Good advice.
composed Lovely news. Congratulations on your little girl, who isn't at all a bad weight for 37 weeks. Enjoy her. Thank you so much for coming on with your encouraging message and all your previous support. Star Flowers Smile [cuppa]
Apologies to anyone rudely ignored.

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