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Pregnant, depressed. and fallen out with Mum.

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ToadstoolFairy · 23/01/2021 10:35

I’ve always had a ‘difficult’ relationship with my Mum; despite us being very close in some respects, we’ve always had a strange mother-daughter dynamic for as long as I can remember. I’m 28, but I often feel 6 years old around her, especially when we argue. My mum refuses to accept responsibility for hurt she’s caused, she will punish people for days if they snap back at her through stone walling/ignoring, and will play the victim card at any opportunity. For years I thought it was normal to be blanked for up to a week after an argument with her, to feel isolated, full of shame and confused - especially when I felt I hadn’t done anything wrong or if I thoughts things had been blown out of proportion. And when my mum had gotten tired of ignoring/blaming me, I would end up apologising (often for things I didn’t feel was fair) and life would continue and things would be swept under the rug.

Ever since I moved in with my other half (about three years now) I’ve been able to put some physical distance between me and my mum when there’s arguments - it’s still awful when we row, but it’s been easier to focus on my own life and not be subjected to stone walling for days at a time. (It’s harder to ignore someone when you don’t see them everyday.)

So myself and my partner were due to get married this summer, but about seven months ago we decided to cancel the wedding and have a smaller registry office and spend a week in Cornwall by ourselves. This decision originally came about due to Covid concerns and worry over the original wedding would happen, but when we sat and discussed it, a smaller wedding fit us more as a couple and we were incredibly excited. We had been planning for about six months up until the point - the only deposit that had been paid was for the venue by my parents (£750). Originally I had wanted a rustic theme wedding and had done a lot of DIY things myself with the help of my dad finding and preparing wood (he’s a carpenter.) My mum was unhappy when we explained that we wanted to change plans. I told her I appreciated all their help but this new way was a lot more sensible and we offered to give the deposit back.

For five months this decision has been the cause for a LOT of unpleasant arguments. Long story short, they are upset they we changed our minds and feel as if we’re shoved them out of planning, which isn’t the case at all. My fiancé’s mum very kindly asked if I would like my hair and make up done by a family friend, to which I agreed, and she paid for it as a wedding gift. My mum blew up over this, stating it was her place to choose my hair and make up - and has bitched about my partners mum consistently ever since.

So this has been going on since September last year and it has been draining me more than I can explain. I am now 10 weeks pregnant and have not spoken to my mum properly in weeks. I tried to explain how I feel invalidated all the time by her - she tells me to grow up when I cry, ignores what I say and turns it back on her. I often find that they do this a lot - they cause an argument (recently it was my mum telling me quite viciously that they weren’t looking forward to my wedding because ‘it wasn’t a proper wedding’, I react and shout/cry, and then I’ll be ignored for days, only for them to come back and say something like “we have to walk on eggshells around you; we constantly feel like the enemy.” It f*s me in the head because I doubt myself.

A few days ago I put my foot down and messaged her a long long message - explaining how it was making me ill, and that I was trying to to salvage our relationship but I couldn’t put up with certain things any longer. I honestly thought this would soften her (as she knows I’m pregnant) but she blew up, accusing my partners Mum “of winning” and saying “she was angry and wouldn’t f*ing apologise.” I gave up at this point but since then I’ve been bombarded with messages such as “I can’t believe it’s come to this; if you don’t want anything to do with us we can’t help if.” It confuses me and I’m made to feel shamed, guilty and confused again.

I’ve been having therapy for several months which has been helping, but I’m in limbo at what to do anymore. I am feeling very vulnerable being pregnant, my mental health isn’t good and I’m alone a lot due to my partner working. I’m torn between wanting/not knowing how to set boundaries in fear of starting another argument or cutting my mum off completely. Has anybody else had a similar experience?

OP posts:
Chelyanne · 23/01/2021 11:04

You need to just walk away from potential arguments, no shouting or crying. If you don't engage with it you will be a lot less stressed. People like that need a taste of their own medicine, I think they thrive on feeling in control of situations. My husband does the same silent treatment rubbish, it used to drive me insane but now I just think sod him and get on with life, he doesn't do it often anymore.
Your wedding is yours to decide upon, parents can throw ideas in the pot but then it's down to you as a couple. You need to live your life and enjoy your pregnancy, if they really want to stay in your life then they will play ball eventually.

RandomMess · 23/01/2021 11:10

Your Mum sounds like she HAS to be in charge aka controlling her botching about your MIL is vile.

Distance distance distance. You can often survive far happier when these kind of parents have no or very little part of your life.

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Sheleg · 23/01/2021 11:50

Look up daughters of narcissistic mothers in google and have a read.

ToadstoolFairy · 23/01/2021 11:59

@Sheleg That’s something I’ve been researching a lot over the last several months or so. The sad thing is, I’m only becoming aware to it when I’m entering a huge stage of my life and feel torn. I want to have a relationship with my Mum and share all the pregnancy stuff with her but at the same time, all communication recently is strained and making me feel depressed. Almost a lose lose situation.

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Knittedfairies · 23/01/2021 12:07

Give the back the deposit, if you can, then just drop the rope. Have the wedding you want, with the people you want; invite your parents, and leave it at that - if they attend, they attend. Don't push for an answer. Share 'pregnancy stuff' with your future MIL, and/or friends. You will be far happier being your own woman rather than your mother's 6 year old daughter.

Allgirlskidsanddogs · 23/01/2021 12:17

Time to go low contact or no contact.

mrstasty · 23/01/2021 12:45

Your mum sounds like an absolute psychopath.

You're better off without her in your life.

shiningcuckoo · 23/01/2021 22:09

This sounds a little like the relationship I had with my mum. In hindsight it was about power and control and I came to realise that mum would never accept that she was in any way at fault nor that I was an entirely separate person to her. I wonder if you feel strong enough to start to redefine your relationship with her. When you make a decision, explain it cleayly once. And refuse to revisit your explanation. Maybe give her a few little 'wins'. A special time together, responsibility for something. I used to ask my mum to make things for me and that made her feel closer to me and calmer. My mum always reacted well to me recognizing important (to her) dates and sending cards, flowers, etc. some might see this as pandering, but it fulfilled a need in her. The last couple of years before she died were much smoother between us and I think it's because she felt she had my attention. In terms of your wedding I'd repay the deposit and find a simple way for her and your Dad to be involved. Not too much, just a little something that makes them feel like they have your attention. Your mum seems to enjoy creating drama and I suggest that you defuse it as much as you can. It will benefit your mental health long term- I can't even begin to talk about the emotional complexity of this kind of relationship and when the parents die. Do the groundwork now!

BL89 · 23/01/2021 23:54

From the sounds of your mum, you won't be able to share and enjoy pregnancy stuff with her because it needs to be all about her. I'm afraid that you may be seeking approval/a relationship that you'll never get.

Try to enjoy this time with your partner and your mil who sounds lovely. Don't let your mum or dad ruin your wedding or pregnancy. They had their chance to do things their way, it is now your time to do things your way and if they won't support you then you're better off without them.

Don't let them gaslight you in to thinking you've done something wrong.

I've had similiar experiences around my wedding and pregnancy. Parents didn't end up attending and the day was absolutely perfect. I have some contact now and even though I still crave a close mother daughter relationship I've come to accept that it's not going to be what I envisage. Accepting them as they are has helped me feel happier and deal with unexpected comments better.

Good luck!

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