Who does NOT had the whooping cough vaccination can explain to me why?

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Please only comment if you NOT!!! had this vaccination. The site is full with comments about the opposite way so i can read about this.
I am currently nearly 14 weeks pregnant and slowly the time coming to this vaccination time. In my opinion this baby is safe and protected in my womb just now, in this small age (16 weeks) i do not wish to get any of this kind of stuff. Especially at 8 weeks time the baby could get a vaccination for this sickness. I know this one meant to be protecting on that 8 weeks, but then again the breast milk is full with vitamins and goot thing wich makes the baby's inside stronger and stronger.. is anyone thinking the same way than me? Please share your experience with me :)

I'm sure there are anti-vaxxer sites which will only be filled with people who accept only one opinion. I think commenting and asking for only people who agree with you on this site is a little silly. Especially given your talk about breast milk stopping whooping cough is just scientifically wrong but you only want to be told it's right.

Look at baby deaths from whooping cough from about 2012-2013. My youngest was born in that time. It was scary.

Get the vaccine. Protect yourself and your baby from a potentially life threatening but easily preventable disease. Watch a youtube video of a baby with whooping cough and hopefully that will convince you

Breast milk won't save your baby from whooping cough, they can barely breathe if they catch whooping cough let alone feed from you so I wouldn't rely on that please research and look at videos of poor little babies gasping for breaths, should help change your mind x

Why do you not want to get it?

Breast milk won't do the job of a vaccine. If you know what this site is full of, then surely you've seen women who've been unable to breastfeed despite desperately wanting to and running themselves into the ground trying. It's not a given.
I wouldn't be gambling with my child's mortality like this.

I didn't want it, there's so much information about keeping things natural during pregnancy but yet we're vaccinating for any 'possible' illness. My daughter is 3 now, we didnt encounter whooping cough and she has gone to nursery since she was 1.

Having nursed people with whooping cough I can’t understand why people wouldn’t get the vaccine. Babies passive immunity (from mum/the placenta) protects them for the first few months therefore the more things you are protected from the better for baby. Breast milk antibodies are limited to certain mechanisms of protection. Is there something in particular about this vaccine that you are concerned about as perhaps myself/someone of this site can provide you with the science/evidence base.

Breast milk isn’t going to magically protect your baby against whooping cough if you don’t get the vaccine whilst pregnant.

Why on earth would you risk your baby’s life in this way? Trust medical professionals, not conspiracy theories on the internet.

I shouldn't be posting on this thread as both my children have had any vaccination going. If you'd ever seen a baby whooping, you wouldn't be considering not vaccinating

@Superfoodie123 have you considered you didn’t encounter it because of the vaccination

Jesus wept. Breastfeeding doesn't prevent your baby from getting sick. The vaccine is there because it keeps the baby safe from getting an illness that can potentially kill them. The reason you even have to have this vaccine is because the likes of anti-vaxxers not having it and the rates of whooping cough spiking. Don't be stupid and take the bloody vaccine for the sake of your unborn child and the rest of the community.

@Aroundtheworldin80moves

Look at baby deaths from whooping cough from about 2012-2013. My youngest was born in that time. It was scary.

Same. We had a huge outbreak of it where I lived. Quite a few babies died. It was awful and this vaccine could of saved them. It came about because people stopped vaccinating against it.

Immunity for whooping cough cannot be passed through breast milk so you need to forget that and look at what other reason you don't want to have the vaccination.

I suggest watching some videos of babies with whooping cough.

It’s incredibly difficult.

Then maybe think about the vaccine

What are you hoping for? People who didn't get the vaccine and their babies didn't get Whooping cough? Of course those people exist, plenty of people never would have went on to get measles but you can't see into the future.

"In my opinion this baby is safe and protected in my womb just now"
That just isn't how it works, the baby will not be vaccinated until 8 weeks old once it is born, the mother having the vaccination in pregnancy means the baby is protected in those important 8 weeks.

"but then again the breast milk is full with vitamins and goot thing wich makes the baby's inside stronger and stronger.. is anyone thinking the same way than me?"
Not really, vitamins from breast milk do not protect from Whopping cough.

The whooping cough vaccine is completely safe and prevents a pretty awful condition for young babies so I don't see why anyone wouldn't.

I just don't understand what solid information you think only hearing from people who didn't get it would provide you with. Someone not getting the vaccine and their baby not getting Whopping cough isn't proof that the vaccine is pointless.

@Superfoodie123

I didn't want it, there's so much information about keeping things natural during pregnancy but yet we're vaccinating for any 'possible' illness. My daughter is 3 now, we didnt encounter whooping cough and she has gone to nursery since she was 1.

That’s because people around you vaccinated.

What does breast milk have to do with it?

I didn't have it because I'm epileptic and it's contraindicated.

I would have had it if they would have let me, because I would prefer my baby not die of something preventable.

Sure, it's only eight weeks.
Sure, some people didn't and they were fine.

It's given in pregnancy because before, it wasn't, and babies died.

Those babies aren't here to tell you they weren't fine, because they are dead. Their mothers probably don't read threads like this, because it's too traumatic.

Pros: your baby won't die of a totally preventable illness.
Cons: ?

Vitamins from BF do not magically protect the baby “from the inside”.

If it worked that way we would all be buying vitamins, not going to the doctors.

If you’ve ever seen a child with whooping cough you’d just get it. There is literally no reason not to protect your baby.

Breast milk isn’t going to stop your baby catching whooping cough. Only a vaccine will do that. As you’ve said, it’s 8 weeks before your baby will receive that vaccination.

You may not be able to breast feed. You may give up when you realise how hard it is. Your baby may have a terrible tongue tie and can’t latch on. Your baby may have allergies that means it needs special milk. It may be premature and have to be tube fed.

14 babies too young to be vaccinated died in 2012 in Britain.

You need the jab in every pregnancy, ideally well before delivery, so there is enough time for the antibodies you produce in response to the vaccine to cross into your baby and offer some protection until they can receive their own jabs.

Breastfeeding offers considerably less protection, as it depends on the timeliness of maternal transfer via body's immune response, then antibodies passing into your milk and offfering some protection (less and slower than having residual maternal antibodies already in situ)

The optimal nutrition aspects of breast milk are of course impossible rant for health, but nutrition is not a substitute for actual protection.

Which other potentially life saving choices are you opting your child out of?

Breastfeeding doesn't stop your baby getting sick and you might not even be able to breastfeed.
I know someone personally who didn't have the vaccine and her baby died from whooping cough at 11 weeks old.