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In what scenarios do car seats need to attach to pram?

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Luckyelephant1 · 13/01/2021 12:39

FTM here and I'm starting to research prams/car seats/travel systems.

It's a minefield and the whole stuff about car seats and pram adapters boggles my mind a bit.

In what scenarios is it important for a car seat to fit onto the pram chassis? All I can think of is if baby falls asleep in car seat while you need to run errands such as grocery shopping. But even then only for short errands as babies aren't meant to be in car seats for long anyway?

So am I missing something else completely? My plan was to keep the car seat in the car most of the time, and mostly use the pram with carrycot or a baby carrier for the first few months.

FYI we live in a village near a large town, lots of walks and parks nearby, most amenities are a short drive away and we almost never need to use public transport. Any tips would be great!

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SunnySideUp2020 · 13/01/2021 18:05

We got the cybex priam travel system with the cloud z that lies flat. And the isofix base that rotates. It was pricey but i think it will make life easier.
So ideally if baby is asleep then can be put on pram still in car seat.
I guess we will use the carrycot for walks from home or where if it's a whole day out or visiting families... etc.
The carrycot is also safe for overnight sleeping occasionally, so good for weekends away (if that's going to be a thing in the next 6 months again)

Ticklemynickel · 13/01/2021 18:47

Never used it with DD1 but have used it frequently with DD2 - as PP have said it's handy if you are popping to the shop quickly with your old child in tow. I'd use the carry cot for walks or if I'm shopping in the local area (pre lockdown of course). I've used a sling far more with DD2 than with my first too so you might find you get more use out of these things in future if you have more babies.

Babyiskickingmyribs · 13/01/2021 21:05

I found this useful when we needed to transport the carseat somewhere - like to take a train or a plane where there would be a car/taxi trip at either end. Not having to physically carry the carseat around a train station or airport was a huge help - even if the baby was in the sling and the bags were piled on top of the pram/carseat.

Meredithgrey1 · 13/01/2021 21:17

We got one that did this because our car is small so we thought it would be easier than taking a pram seat out in the car as well. But DD loathed the car seat and we lost the adaptors to click into the pram. I don’t think we used it on the pram even once
We didn’t bother with a carrycot either, we just got a pram seat that could lie flat. It worked because DD was born in June and so it was warm. If she’d been born in winter I might have preferred a carrycot to protect her from the elements a bit more.

Sls668 · 13/01/2021 21:35

I also wondered this but did buy a Joie ilevel to attach to our Bugaboo in the end. It’s lucky I did because the baby goes through phases of HATING the carrycot for the pram, I think because she likes to see what’s going on in the world!
My friends baby also needed to be in the car seat rather than carrycot as he had bad reflux so struggled lying flat

justasmalltownmum · 13/01/2021 21:37

Had it for the first baby, but didn't really need it.

Didn't even use it for the second.

LividLoving · 13/01/2021 21:41

Had a lockdown baby so no coffees/supermarkets/wanders round the shops.

Used the adapters once, for a stroll round the park, mostly so we could say we had.

Total waste of a function in Covid times.

Scottishskifun · 13/01/2021 21:42

We had a lie flat car seat (DS went mental in a upright seat) which clicked straight onto a pram. No issues whatsoever and he could stay asleep or stayed strapped in with no problems.

When he got bigger and moved into the upright position I just used to put him in his pram but when very tiny it was invaluable. You never want to disturb a sleeping baby!!!

RandomMess · 13/01/2021 21:42

Only time it was amazing was when I had 3 in three years and I used the car to do the pre-school pick up.

Car seat had a base in the car and then attached to pushchair that had a buggy board on it. For those 6-12 months it was wonderful for that.

Really it's a non issue though because the shouldn't be in the car seat for any length of time and you end up compromising on other things that are more important.

BertieBotts · 13/01/2021 21:54

They don't ever NEED to but it can be useful as people have said :)

Babies often don't like to be hauled in and out of contraptions all the time, so if you're going to be in and out of the car (e.g. driving to several shops/appointments) then it's easier for them if you can just keep them strapped into one thing rather than moving them around constantly. Plus if they are asleep like you say, it can be less disturbing and less likely to wake them up.

That said, do be aware of the positional asphyxiation risk - the position in a car seat is quite upright to allow for crash safety, and this can affext a baby's oxygen saturation levels over time so it's recommended to take them out and give them at least a short break, once every 30 minutes for babies up to 4 weeks old, and once every 2 hours for babies older than this.

You can buy car seats which have inserts to put the baby in a flatter position, and even car seats which have a flatter lying position due to a recline (often marketed as "lie flat"), although the advice doesn't change because there's no research on these seats specifically, it may help you feel more OK with relaxing these guidelines. It's just advice so it's your call to make. Personally I've always felt OK letting my babies finish a nap they started in a car seat, as long as it didn't push them far over the guidance, but I wouldn't put them in a car seat specifically to nap or sleep in the house, as I feel this is an unnecessary risk.

Also in general because car seats are fairly curved in shape (even the lie flat ones) and the baby is restricted in them due to the padding, harness and inserts it's not a good idea to keep them in the car seat for too long in general or use the car seat as your main carrycot/pushchair, they do need some time to lie flat and stretch every day for their development, learning to roll, push up, sit etc :) but I think this is fairly obvious, it's the time limit advice that isn't quite so clear.

As far as which car seats fit which pushchairs. There is one type of adapter, known as maxi cosi adapters, multi-brand adapters or "universal" car seat adapters which many brands have designed their car seats to fit on and which many popular pushchair brands produce for their models. These pushchairs usually list a small number of the seats which fit on them, but they are often out of date and/or incomplete as they really want you to buy their own branded car seat as more £££ for them. The easy way to spot one of these prams is that they will say their pushchair is compatible with something by Maxi Cosi or Cybex. But the full list is as follows:

All infant seats from:
Maxi cosi
Cybex / GB
Nuna
Besafe
Recaro (nb, the two combination seats use an interim adapter)
Avionaut (there is one branded as Venicci Ultralite in UK - no other Venicci seats fit)

Then also:
All Joie infant seats, except Juva
Cosatto Dock
Axkid Modukid Infant (with interim adapter)

Britax car seats use a different type of adapter, but also fit with a large range of pushchair brands. Generally you find that brands which are sold in the US or Scandanavia have Britax adapters available, whereas brands which are unique to the UK or mainland Europe often don't.

If you can only purchase a set as a full travel system/3-in-1 and there's no option to change the seat to e.g. a Maxi Cosi, it's likely they only accept their own brand car seats. And Silver Cross, Graco, Chicco, Hauck, Ickle Bubba etc car seats will only go on the matching brand's prams.

So it's not always the case you need to choose one before the other.

SallyCinnamon3009 · 13/01/2021 22:00

I think it depends on the size of your car as well. When DS1 was born we lived in a third floor flat and had a three door car.

Having a car seat that could be easily clipped in and out of the car was great for getting him in and out the flat and up the two flights of stairs. Equally the pram chassis and carrycot didn't both fit in the boot and carry cot had to be put on the back seat of the car. If I was just nipping to the shops/coffee/somewhere quick, it was easier to just have the car seat and chassis in the car and not mess around with getting the carrycot off the back seat.

I'd say for me the car seat and carrycot were both used about the same amount of times. Although I did find once he got to around 4/5 months I used the car seat more as he was sat up a bit more and could look around, but was too small for the proper seat of the pram.

TopBants · 13/01/2021 22:02

I've never bothered- just carry the car seat wherever we're going (usually from the car to our house or a house we're visiting).

As you've spotted, it's safer for the baby to be lying flat on longer journeys, such as around shops (two hours is reached pretty quickly, I find, adding in journeys to and from. Besides which, it's a max of half an hour for the first month). For us, it didn't seem to be worth the outlay for a lie flat car seat, being as it'd only be in use for a year (and it's not safe to buy one second hand).

We got our car seat free with our pram and did buy adaptors so it could be added to the pram but ended up never using them. Then again, DD didn't sleep in the car, so it didn't matter if we disturbed her getting her out. She also never slept in a pram. We ended up just putting her in a sling if going anywhere.

GrumpyHoonMain · 13/01/2021 22:03

@Luckyelephant1

FTM here and I'm starting to research prams/car seats/travel systems.

It's a minefield and the whole stuff about car seats and pram adapters boggles my mind a bit.

In what scenarios is it important for a car seat to fit onto the pram chassis? All I can think of is if baby falls asleep in car seat while you need to run errands such as grocery shopping. But even then only for short errands as babies aren't meant to be in car seats for long anyway?

So am I missing something else completely? My plan was to keep the car seat in the car most of the time, and mostly use the pram with carrycot or a baby carrier for the first few months.

FYI we live in a village near a large town, lots of walks and parks nearby, most amenities are a short drive away and we almost never need to use public transport. Any tips would be great!

I never needed to attach it, used to just pick DS up and put him into the pram. But I had birth injuries which made carrying a carseat plus baby really difficult. DH found it easier just to plonk the carseat onto the frame as he didn’t want to keep adjusting DS in the car - but he only did this for really short trips. Pushchair / pram was much easier for us.
BertieBotts · 13/01/2021 22:03

I will just add to a PP comment, it is actually recommended not to buy car seats second hand, because you don't know the history of the seat abd someone might be less than honest about whether they've ever had a crash with it or dropped it. Plus accessories like newborn inserts or strap covers can go missing and these are an integral part of the safety features of the seat so shouldn't be replaced with generic ones. It's a good idea to know the general age of the seat as well as you shouldn't keep them for more than 10 years due to wear and tear.

By all means get the pushchair second hand but I would buy a new car seat, unless its from someone you know and trust so you'd have that info about the history, any crashes etc.

daimbar2030 · 13/01/2021 22:04

We bought a full travel system but my LO has reflux so doesn't like being laid flat. We haven't used the carrycot once as he much prefers the car seat clipped onto the pram base! I would say it's definitely worth it if you can afford it! Xxx

BertieBotts · 13/01/2021 22:15

In terms of choosing I think if you want a car seat with particular features, so for example lie flat system, absolute top marks for safety, something lightweight, something that clips out like the maxi cosi coral, something that can adapt to sloped seats in a car or is usable with a three door, or is adaptable between isofix and non isofix or a base that takes the next seat (especially if you have your eye on a specific one), or one that will last as long as possible or anything like that, then it makes sense to choose the car seat first. But anything meeting any of these criteria will fit with either the maxi cosi or the britax adapters, so you'll have massive choice of pushchair selection anyway. I think the only "special feature" one that is only compatible with one model is Jané. Or Doona which has the wheels built in rather than being compatible with any pram.

If you don't mind and just want a bog standard infant seat which will do the job, then choose the pushchair first, and don't worry about what car seat it comes with. Infant seats in general are all very safe and protect young babies well in the car.

Toffeefee23 · 13/01/2021 22:19

I never had a car seat that attached to pram and was not a problem. You’re not meant to leave a baby in car seat for long anyway.

shhsecretsquirrel · 13/01/2021 22:19

We never had a travel system, I hate to see them all squished up in the car seat, they're really not supposed to be in them very long. And to be honest, they're that difficult and clunky to get out of the car, you may as well just transfer. Added bonus is they get used to a sleepy transfer so now I can lift my ds from car to cot - happy days!

Emmacb82 · 13/01/2021 22:32

First time round I never used the car seat adapters. Second time round I’ve used them quite a lot. It’s much quicker if you’re just popping to a doctors appointment or getting a few things in a shop to just take the whole car seat out and plop it on top of the chassis. Especially with another child. It’s a much bigger faff to drive somewhere, unstrap the baby, put them in the bassinet, then take baby back out and re strap in car seat for an outing that should take a couple of minutes!

Chelyanne · 13/01/2021 22:37

None imo.
They are convenient but you are right, advice is to not leave baby in a carpet for long periods. I think a flat reclining buggy does the job just fine, a winter foot muff is a good investment for winter though as they are quite thin.

Chelyanne · 13/01/2021 22:38

Car seat not carpet lol

OnNaturesCourse · 14/01/2021 09:35

I can see it being handy for nipping into a shop or chemist etc if the trip is short as you have to remember babies aren't meant to be in car seats for 2 hours in total.

We went with a pram and separate carseat that turned 360 so it was easier getting little sleeping babies in and out, and honestly I found that perfect. Turned the seat to left baby out the seat and into bassinet to lie flat and comfy.

You can however get a lie flat carseat that clips in and out nowadays which may be of interest. I would have looked into if I was buying a travel system now
.. www.madeformums.com/reviews/6-best-lie-flat-car-seats-from-birth/

luxxlisbon · 14/01/2021 10:16

I was literally wondering this yesterday so I'm glad I've seen this thread! Prams and travel systems seem like such a minefield and I really don't want to drop 1k on something that I end up not using as much or it doesn't suit my needs.
I can understand for some people it is easier to lift the whole seat out and click it onto the pram than faff about taking the baby out of the seat and into the pram. I don't think that would suit my car or living situation so I think I will just keep the seat in the car and use a separate pram.

CocoPark · 14/01/2021 10:42

Another vote for car seat on pram in those early days.

As PPs have said it means the little errands ARE only quick. Post-Covid rules, you'll want to take a baby visiting indoors, and the seat means they don't need to be woken up immediately.
Heading out, you pack the tiny baby up into the seat indoors, and then take the seat to the car when they're safely strapped in and you're definitely ready to set off. No faffing about in nasty weather!

That said, I wouldn't spend a fortune. The system is PERFECT for convenience, but only until 5/6 months old.

I invested in a spin car seat at about 6 months. Lifesaver for the back when the child is heavier, and children sleep far less at that age so waking them up isn't a problem.

Twizbe · 14/01/2021 11:02

I never had a car seat that went onto a pram. Had no need of it with either child. A fixed car seat worked just as well