Help advice needed please.

[Naomi89]

Hi all. just after some advice.
So yesterday morning I had some light pink blood when wiping, I called the midwife & she booked me in for an early scan today, gradually over time from yesterday to today the bleeding has been a bit heavier and bright red with some small dark red/stringy clots- I guess just like a period with cramps. I've been cramping since Sunday evening. Not like agonising ones, I could still get on and do stuff and only when wiping.
Anyway, I thought I was just over 7 weeks..went for a scan today and they told me I was measuring about 6 weeks, they had to do an internal scan to see better & we was able to see the sac and the white splodge in it, no heartbeat as she said it could be too early and has booked me in for another scan next week she said it looked good as the uterus is up high and nicely but said until we see the heartbeat she can't say for sure if everything is ok or not so I have another week of worrying ... anyway, not long after I got out I bled loads- like before it was only when i was wiping but now it's on a pad, it's still red and having the small blood clots in it... cramping is still there but very mild now..
Can having an internal scan cause bleeding to be worse?
I've been reading things about cervix erosion etc..
Just wondered if anyone had been through this & if it was a postive outcome.
Me and my partner have spoken about it and I guess prepared ourselves for the worst outcome of it being a miscarriage.

Aw you poor thing. Sorry to hear what a tough time you're having Naomi89. The ultrasound probe is blunt and round and they use plenty of lubrication so it hasn't caused the ongoing bleeding imho. I didn't want to read and run but I guess my gut feeling is that it's a miscarriage. I hope I'm wrong! Cramps plus blood and tissue plus small for estimated gestation and no HB. Gosh you must be feeling pretty down. Virtual hugs. Please try again soon as you're most fertile in the three months after a miscarriage I've heard

Hello. I am so sorry you are going through this. I had a similar experience for my last miscarriage. Spotting at 7/8 weeks and then an internal scan showing a 6 week pregnancy and no heartbeat. I asked the consultant about the internal scan making the bleeding worse and he said it didn't work like that. I miscarried a couple of days later and there was no doubt when it happened.

I am hoping there is some positive news but maybe best to prepare for the worst.

Thanks. Yeah it's not a nice time to be honest. I pretty much have assumed it's a mc and I've got to go through the pains and the bleeding. I've never experience a mc before, I have a 6 year old and a 8 year old and had smooth pregnancies with both.
So I don't really know what I'm expecting to come with it... I've read so much online and it's all such a confusing time!
Me and my partner have pretty much prepared ourselves with bad news next week and I've got a week to try and really get it into me... obviously I'll take time to grief but can't help think it was me who did something, also feel like I've let my mum down as she was like excited to have a new baby in the family...
I know we could always try again but I'm terrified that it will happen again, I suffer with anxiety as it is so after losing this one..if I got pregnant again I'd be forever panicking something was wrong
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Naomi89 I hope you can get some sleep and take it easy tomorrow. Once you get past the really hard part you can rebuild your hope again as you're definitely not outta the game. Be kind to yourself. Goodnight

Well I've definitely had a miscarriage. Woke this morning to a huge blood clot on my pad.
I did wake in the night crying thinking about they baby if it had been a boy or girl etc what It would of been like...
Now I need to try and think of how I get through the heartache and move on to be brave enough to try again!... any advice? X

Sorry to hear that. Everyone grieves in their own way but I'd say have a chat with your mum and a good cry together. A problem shared is a problem halved. Check out the miscarriage page on Mumsnet for support. Focus on what's in your control rather than what's not (likely it was a genetic problem with the embryo and best that nature made that touch decision on your behalf). Treat yourself like you would a friend. Make healthy choices like taking walks, eating well, doing hobbies, focus on the here and now rather than regret of the past or worry about the future. You'll get through this. You're stronger than you think x

Thank you..
I've had a little cry this morning but trying to be strong as I have 2 other children to look after.
I'm a bit confused though, yesterday when I went for my scan and she saw the yolk and the white splodge in it and said it was high up and looked in a good position, to then bleed more and lose a massive clot in the night... would that of happened quickly since having the scan?.
Obviously no doubt about it I'm having a mc with the amount of blood I'm losing and the clots.

Oh I'm not sure sorry. I guess I would have thought a miscarriage takes time to pass so it's easy to associate the worst bits with something that one's done. Hope it clears quickly. Big hugs for your two kids today x

@Naomi89 I'm so sorry this has happened to you. It definitely isn't your fault - do try to remember that.

What you're describing sounds similar to my first MC (measured 5wks, MC at 8wks). I think once your body realises what is happening it can happen quickly. I started spotting Monday and had a scan which showed everything was fine but it was too small for my dates, was given a "pregnancy of uncertain viability" form then woke up in the night with red blood. I called and was told it could be irritation from the scan that had dislodged some existing blood. The next day the bleeding nearly stopped and then I passed the placenta the day after and it was pretty clear what had happened. Do call your EPU and ask them questions - it's so confusing when you don't know what to expect (the size of the placenta was a shock) and they won't mind. If it was like my experience they gave me all of the information about MC at the follow up scan which was too late really.

This is such a crap time and if you need help ask for it. I also suffer from anxiety and after my 2nd MC in Apr this year (no children) I got some counselling - I wish I'd done it after the first. It affected me a lot more than I even realised at the time. DH moved on quite quickly but for me I felt like a real baby had died. I was grieving and felt really alone. He was so supportive but didn't understand my feelings. I also found it helpful to tell some of my friends. I didn't tell anyone after the 1st - I think I felt ashamed - but now I wish I had. So many people go through this you'll be surprised at how much support is out there. And it's hard to be grieving when no-one knows. Obviously you need to decide what will work for you and do it when and if you're ready.

I'm PG again now for the 3rd time and only 4 weeks along (3 months after 2nd MMC) and it is definitely hard - having a counsellor that I already know and has been with me from the beginning is really helping me. I can't tell you what will be but I have to hope for the best!

You will get through this and there are better days ahead. Thinking of you today.

I’m so sorry OP.

Please remember this isn’t your fault or something you did wrong. You didn’t cause this - it’s just one of those things.

I hope you have plenty of support from the people who love you

Thank you all.
Yeah, its not a nice feeling.
Its my first mc..I have a 6 year old and an 8 year old, we hadn't told them ( they are desperate for a baby sibling)...
I am ok just have random moments of crying.
I am also feeling lightheaded and sick, I'm not sure if it's due to the blood loss.
I wouldn't say I've bled like through pads, itz been like a period but with blood clots and the huge one in the night... so not sure why I feel like this.
Trying to keep busy and the kids entertained just need to feel more energy.
Kids also seem more clingy especially my youngest at the moment for some reason.
I'm back next Tuesday morning for a rescan for them to tell me exactly what I already know.
Not only am I bleeding and losing clots my pregnancy symptoms have all gone as well. 😥😥😥
I'm so sorry to you all your losses too.. it's a horrible time and although I'll never forget the baby, I will get stronger and over time it'll hopefully get easier and I'll have the strength to try again.
I suffer with anxiety and an episode of depression, I came off my meds when I was about 3 weeks pregnant as they have an increased risk of mc..so I still wonder if it was them that caused it?...or if I did something.
I know they say that mc are natures way of saying that it wasnt meant to be but for me I still can't help but to feel guilty.