LucindaE · 13/05/2020 21:09
I hope everyone suffering from the Horrors of Hyperemesis will find this thread useful as a source of support and information.
There's no TMI on here - can't be by definition - and nobody should feel ashamed of moaning as much as they feel the need to.
MOH's wonderful website is full of useful information on this illness:
Another invaluable website is:
If you need help in obtaining medication, phone them on:
024 7638 2020
Lastly, the NICE guidelines on treatment are useful:
I would like to thank everyone who has given such invaluable support and advice on this and on previous threads.
It has been suggested that I add some practical tooth cleaning advice: a lot of sufferers find using a child's small toothbrush and strawberry toothpaste far less nauseating.
On my image of a pink castle: that is an image I use because when I was little, my family had a Snakes and Ladders board with an image on the last square of a pink castle in the clouds. As Hyperemesis is so like a grotesque version of Snakes and Ladders - eat a meal, go up a ladder, first thing in the morning bile run, down a snake - I have used the image of that pink castle on the last square of that Snakes and Ladders board as a metaphor for the happy end of Hyperemesis.
Remember when you are at your worst, 'This Too Shall Pass'. It really will.
So many women on this thread have thought they couldn't get through this, but they did.
LucindaE · 13/05/2020 21:10
Here we are. A brand new thread, with cyber cushions to collapse on...
Snowwhite2020 · 13/05/2020 21:14
I’ve just slouched into a cyber cushion. Many thanks @LucindaE
LucindaE · 13/05/2020 21:25
Snowwhite2020 There's a good view from here, too, of the fabled Pink Castle at the end of the Hyperemesis horror trail.
PetiteQuark · 13/05/2020 21:55
Hello, thanks for the new thread @LucindaE. I've had an awful HG day. So bad our our living room rug now needs replacing. Have a solo day of childcare tomorrow and dreading it.
zhivagodr · 13/05/2020 22:18
Can I join ladies? 8+5 and spewing in between zoom calls. Was properly green at the gills today... I’m thankful for wfh because there’s no way I could do this in an office environment!
IAmSeriousAndDontCallMeShirley · 13/05/2020 22:41
Hopping on to the shiny new thread, thank you Lucinda glad to hear you are feeling better too.
Bad day for me, both in terms of sickness and extreme fatigue. The poor kids got nothing from me today apart from the absolute essentials. Feeling very guilty indeed.
Hoping for better things tomorrow.
Hope others are doing better
BeautyAndTheBump1 · 14/05/2020 07:28
throws shoes off and snuggles up to cyber cushion
Jaddypinky · 14/05/2020 08:52
I need this thread so badly really thinking I can’t continue right now never a break from nausea unless I’m sleeping. Only 6 weeks. 😥
kissingthebear · 14/05/2020 08:55
Hello to all the new warrior women who find themselves here.
Started throwing up again last night - what a way to mark turning 35 weeks. As if the nausea wasn't bad enough. I feel huge & my whole body feels crushed carrying this babe around 😂
So bored of being a prisoner in my own body/house but equally don't have the energy to walk anywhere. @BeautyAndTheBump1 - how are you getting on? There's light at the end of the tunnel at least, but each day is going so S L O W L Y 🙃
kissingthebear · 14/05/2020 09:00
@Jaddypinky - is this your first? I told myself that pretty much everyday for the first 20 weeks. I sobbed a lot. I didn't think I had the strength to continue, the only respite I got in the beginning was when I slept. It's best to try and focus on little milestones, one section at a time. Mine was an early scan at 10 weeks, then 12 weeks, etc etc. Please do try ask for a drug called Xonvea. No nasty side effects for mum or baby so I felt very reassured taking this although I did start fairly late around the 12 weeks mark because GP wouldn't prescribe (they're expensive) and I had to see a private obstetrician.
It will pass. But I sympathise - it's bloody hard.
Jaddypinky · 14/05/2020 09:09
Thank you so much. I’ve been given Xonvea took 4 last night as three not helping praying I get some relief. This will be my third hg baby but first was more manageable. I was younger and didn’t have kids etc. I’m 40 now.
Hello to all you suffering mommas xx
Jaddypinky · 14/05/2020 09:10
Also my youngest ds is so full of love constantly hugging and in my face but he’s making me feel even worse sounds awful. I feel like I’m pushing him away. So awful
kissingthebear · 14/05/2020 09:12
@Jaddypinky I'm defo finding this pregnancy harder than my first. 5 years old and a very active DS to look after when I just want to lie in bed.
I found I got respite taking one in morning and 2 before bed. You can take one at lunch time too. You have to have them on empty tummy though which I didn't do straight away as I didn't realise. Apparently it makes a difference.
So no eating 2 hours before taking a tablet, then you have to wait 1 hour after taking one. X
Jaddypinky · 14/05/2020 10:15
Oh really I’ve been taking them all together before I go to sleep on an empty tummy. I think I need to re read the instructions. Do they give you a lot of relief? How far gone are you? X
Jaddypinky · 14/05/2020 10:22
Oh crumbs why didn’t I read the instructions I took 4 in a row last night before bed 😳.
Think I should have none today then 2 tonight 1 Tom am and 1 Tom mid day? God thanks for mentioning it I would have done it wrong. I could have sworn my gynae said take all at once at night. She must have meant just the two. Seriously I’m all over the place. This lockdown does not help the situation as feel so suffocated. Sorry for moaning it’s just a tough time and even contemplated not being able to continue. I am literally good for nothing. House a tip but I feel so weak and sick all day. Want the old me back 😢
kissingthebear · 14/05/2020 11:00
@Jaddypinky don't beat yourself up, I took 3 all together once too. But if you take them correctly, I'm confident they'll help. I felt noticeably better after 3 days of taking them the way you need to. Praying they give you some relief. My house is a mess, there are toys in every room. But you can only do what you can do, don't push yourself. It's not important. X
kissingthebear · 14/05/2020 11:00
I'm 35 weeks today 🙏🏻
Jaddypinky · 14/05/2020 11:08
Are you still feeling sick? Did you feel much better from a certain week. I keep thinking if I can get to week 12 and get my first scan I’ll be ok.
I wanted 4 but will never ever put myself or family through this again. Me and my boys are so close but they are distancing from me as I’m not the same mummy. Oh well. Just a quick bit of advice needed. If I took 4 in a row last night. Can I take any until bedtime today ?? X
kissingthebear · 14/05/2020 11:15
@Jaddypinky I'm still feeling sick but no where near as bad as I was before. I'm a very rare case to suffer the whole way, so I'm probably not the best person to ask. I think it become more manageable around 24 weeks but Xonvea helped massively. I know if I wasn't on it now I'd be vomiting through the day. It has stopped me being sick on the whole.
I wouldn't take any during today if you took 4 in one go last night. You'll probably be ok by this evening to take 2 but if unsure check with your gyn / pharmacist. You can start as normal tomorrow.
At times I've felt crazy for going for baby 2 as this has been the toughest thing I've ever done. My boy is very understanding but it breaks my heart that I'm like 10% of my normal self for him x
LucindaE · 14/05/2020 16:41
Zhivagodr Welcome. Sorry your are suffering. Have you got an y meds? You need them asap, as the earlier you are treated,.A good anti acid like Omprazole can make a surprising difference to the sickness. Kesostix are worth buying online or form a chemists, as while they aren't they best test of dehydration, hospitals take them seriously, etc. Besides Kissingthebear's orange juice, ice and lemonade, here are some drinks that I hope might be useful and food suggestions. Full sugar flat coke, the juice of tinned fruit, ice lollies, ice cubes, soda water, Lucozade, fizzy water, tonic water, Elderflower water, Elderflower tonic and soda water, fizzy orange, lemonade, Dr Pepper, Iron Bru, sips of chocolate milkshake (maybe soya), Isotonic drinks, 7Up, mint tea made with fresh mint, , orange squash and lemonade. Some foods of a sort that have helped others are: nibbles of chips and crisps, Scotch pancakes, tinned fruit, cuppa soup, biscuits, sices of melon and mango and baked potatoes. Some swear by grated cheese. Another tip was melon juiced and frozen as ice cubes. Things do improve for most sufferers between weeks 14 and 20. Even those unlucky ones who suffer throughout only rarely feel as bad later on as in the first tri.
Oh dear; everyone seems to be having a bad day.
PetiteQuark Poor you. Can it be shampoed? I think even hair shampoo and hanging out for some days might do wonders.
JuddyPinky It is very hard. Neither you,nor IAmSeriousAndDon'tCallMeShirley nor kissingthebear nor anyone should feel guilty about the comparative neglect for a short period of your LO. Not only are children more resiliant than we think, but you are giving your LO's a precious gift in a sibling, My daughter often reproached me for leaving her as an only child, so you don't escape feeling guilty whatever you do.
BeautyandtheBump I hope the cushions are comfy!
Jaddypinky · 14/05/2020 17:09
Hi ladies, I have to hang my head shame and confess I have decided that I can not continue with this pregnancy. I have had hg before and this time it is fiercer than ever. On top I can feel my old manic depression looming and having dreadful panic attacks about having a baby and will I cope. I was suicidal after my second son was born and had severe pnd. I just can’t neglect my little boy hear him crying for me. He says he doesn’t want a sibling anyway. I was doing it for him but the gap would 4.5 years anyway. I went for another as my eldest is 14 so the gap was huge. Also I had an obsession with people thinking I had only 1 child as our eldest never comes out with us.
I prob sound mad but I just can’t carry on like this I want my old life back. I feel in such a bad way and my mental state is deteriorating. I have called Marie stopes and have a consultation tonight. I hope I don’t offend anyone by sharing this but I have no one else to talk too. Wish I was as strong as you mommas you are all amazing I am just pathetic. Wish I’d never got myself into this mess. 😢 at my age now (40) after being a mum for 15 years I feel I just need time for me and don’t want to go backwards again!!! My heart is broken
kissingthebear · 14/05/2020 18:30
@Jaddypinky no one is here to judge, it's hard to continue and it's hard to decide not to. You do what's right for you & listen to your own intuition. You'll make the right choice based on what you can cope with, and whatever that may be, just be kind to yourself ❤️
Jaddypinky · 14/05/2020 19:12
What a lovely person you are. Thank you. I simply can’t do this each minute feels like a day It’s simply torture
justtheonethen · 14/05/2020 19:23
@Jaddypinky sending a hug and certainly no judgement here.
LucindaE · 14/05/2020 19:38
Jaddypinky You must do what you think is right. You won't be the first person on here who has had to have a termination. I hope the day comes when treatment of this scourge is so effective that nobody feels obliged to have to make that choice.
Waves to justtheone holdingthebear and everyone.
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